Sorrow

The only true Messiah who can rescue us from ourselvse is..... OURSELVES.

This is about taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions. Not relying on some fictitious figure to which we can make excuses for our stupidity and cruelty. It ultimateley stating that when we do this there will be (needless) sorrow no more.

I'm not sure why some theists are so into this band, aside from the fact that the music itself is half the beauty of the song. I think the lyrics send the message that we create all the sorrow, and that there's not going to be anyone to save us and we have to clean up this crap.

Or when the only true messiah rescues us from ourselves It's easy to imagine...

There will be Sorrow Yeah there will be Sorrow And there will be Sorrow, no more

I guess i really wouldn't know, but the way i interpret the above passage is that it's easy to look to some god to fix everything and make everything okay, but that will never happen. so until we realize that and quit being lustful and selfish people, we aren't going to get anywhere.

Atheists DO use biblical allusions. Most American atheists were raised Christian, and I'll bet Graffin was too. In fact, atheists often know MORE about the bible than their christian peers, because they can look at it without bias, and don't skip over the nasty bits.

For example:

• In the Pentateuch, God condones slavery, and gives the Israelites extensive laws about how to treat slaves.
• In the Torah, God tells the Israelites to commit genocide... repeatedly.
• In Jeremiah, God says that women who sin deserve to be raped.

Most Christians don't even know that, because they've never actually read their bible. A lot of atheists got that way because they actually cracked the bible open one day and found out just what kind of sick, depraved stuff is inside.

Knowing that Greg Graffin is atheist I'm pretty sure that this song is about the neverending meaningless sorrow brought on by war over religion. Read the below lines with this thought in mind and it will make sense. let me take you the herding ground
where all good men are trampled down just to settle a bet that cannot be won between the prideful father and his son well, you guard me now for can't see a reason for this suffering and this long misery the herding ground - battle fields the bet that cannot be won - which religion is right

and whoever said this was the best BR song needs to hear Generator

Until you realise BR are Atheist.

The Pentateuch and the Torah are the holy books in Judaism, and they constitute the first five books of the Christian bible (Genesis through Deuteronomy). They're also some of the most horrible stuff ever written by Human beings -- rape, slavery, murder, infanticide, genocide, and with God condoning it at every step. In most cases, God is actually COMMANDING it.

All Christians (and Jews and Muslims, since they believe in these horror stories too) should read through Numbers, Deuteronomy, and the book of Joshua. If more of them actually READ those parts of the bible instead of ignoring them, there would be a lot more atheists in the world.

Source: http://www.punknews.org/article/9447

Well, it’s the story of Job from the Old Testament. Job was the most righteous man in the world. The devil said to God “these people are basically bad” and god said “Well no.”

The devil said “Give me one example” and god said “Look at Job, he’s a righteous man.”

The devil said that he could corrupt him like any man, and they made a wager. And that was god’s way of rewarding the one righteous man on the planet. That was god turning his back on the one man who was good and righteous. That’s not god, that’s religion.

That’s an example of how detestable religion is. What is the lesson there?

No matter how good you are, god will turn his back on you? This is the basis for Judaeo-Christian religion? Is it any surprise the world is so screwed up.

They say that the story of the Job is the saddest story ever told, so it seemed like the best archetypal story to start a song called “Sorrow”

its the shit. blaze on

I can see MOE when you say when bands get popular they oose their quality i think thats because they get so much radio attention and all that even though they are a realy kick ass band you get kindof tired of them like this song this is a really good song but its been on the radio so much its loosing its quality............ i dont know im just thinking out loud

yea, i first heard this song WAY back in november when i was on a family trip in hawaii. it REALLY surprised me when i heard them on the radio. And i think Edo is right, theyll be fine, they sold out but have reinvented themselves on more than one occassion. They are such a good band with immaculate lyrics I dont think they can be surpassed, even if they do sell out.

Anyway, I heard this song was written about the struggles between Greg and his father. But i think it might have a double meaning. In 'Metal Hammer' a uk punk and metal magazine they had an interview with Greg and Mr. Brett and Mr. Brett said that this song was about the biblical story of 'Job', in this story Satan bet god that there was no man who wouldn't surrender his faith ('Just to settle a bet that could not be won, between a prideful father and his son' from what I understand of Christianity Satan was created by god then cast out of heaven into hell i.e. god is Satan's 'father') but after huge suffering Job still refused to betray his faith and was rewarded by god. To quote Brett: 'The easiest way to summarize 'Sorrow' is that it is very difficult to account for suffering in the world from a theological perspective...My interpretation of the story of Job is that it doesn't matter how good you are , the universe doesn't run on the merit system. In other words its impossible to justify the suffering in the world with the existence of a god. The story of Job is the archetypal sad story. It's the saddest story ever told, it deals with the biggest question: why is there so much sorrow? Why is there so much pain in the world? I wanted to tackle the subject without trivializing it' I hope this is of some help, Barney."