Pretty When You Cry

Yeah, you're thinking of this interview:

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That was from a period of time when we weren't talking. I didn't realize Jon had discussed this so publicly. Yes, the relationship resulted in arrest. I didn't press charges. I also didn't phone the police: some neighbor did because we were shouting. I remember being pissed off that they confiscated my pillowcase - it was an original Herself the Elf (limited edition) pillowcase from when I was a kid. So I guess if he mentioned it, well I should try to set that record straight already. I have with him, obviously. But we didn't talk again in person for about 5 years, although we spoke on the phone occasionally.

What a poisonous article.

That was the only incident of violence, however, except once I found him with another woman so I trashed her car in the heat of passion and once I caught him sleeping with a girl and I think I made a scene. I suppose that made him think I was crazy, but he knows I was just human. That sort of thing wasn't an everyday thing. We'd been breaking up back and forth for a few months at the end, and that was the final straw for me, coming to his house at 5 am and finding this other woman there dancing in his window wearing some black lacy thing, mocking me! I didn't get arrested, just cited.

Neither one of us ever had anything put on our records because neither one of us committed crimes.

I don't want to get into the suffocation thing, however, because substances were involved.

It's kind of crazy to think about in retrospect, but ah well, live. Or die.

It sounds so Jerry Springer that I hate talking about it.

Of course, I was like 19 years old.

Both of us were pretty intense back then. That probably still holds true. Most people can probably relate to flip outs during horrible breakups and the inevitable shit talking that comes after all that, not to mention misunderstandings. Good thing none of that happens when you've got a microphone in front of you.

it's about how he took advantage of her love for him to bed her. it's a demonstartion of his sense of objectification and entitlement. perfect example of the profile of an emotional abuser. she was probably intense with him because she sensed his mistreatment of her. also typical in abusive realtionships...he wants to be "crazy makin" and make her think it's her. yet he admits he used her, and finds no problem with it. he goes around whining that he is constantly being mistreated because he sees no fault in himself. they want you to focus on what they think they feels, rather on what they think, what their mentality is. bend for me, and don't dare ask for me to for you...and then they punish (hold your love, and don;t let you go, then blame you for when they finally sense their hold slip or get bored, and they leave...they leave a mess of you) and make pop songs that everyone loves, which furthers the mentality. social messages that it is totally ok to use and abuse the "lesser sex", because sex sells

and i'm sorry to you honey, for in your youth you couldn't have known better. lovely how everyone wants to blmae the gal, when he was a philanderer and doing things that caused you unnecessary pain. he got mad at you for being mad at him. he launched a music career, you got trouble and a song forever marking this pain. healing for you.
you were not crazy, just passionate. he led you to believe the passion was equal. it was, but in a traumatic way. "male priveledge" is what it's called. and the gal goes down every time, because everyone sides with him..."she's crazy" they say. well yeah, your heart was being tugged in all directions and he couldn't care less, yet made you feel should stay by offering "love" when you caught him or he sensed his hold fail. so you stay. and he laughs about it in a song, like you are an idiot. asshat immature little weasel. this happens far too often in our country. thankgod you never got preggers with him. i'm now losing my kids to an jerk like this. he doesn't even want them, just wants to be on top

yea i think you get the idea... :)

Yes, this is how I see it too

Excellently stated!!

While I'm thinking you are right in stating it hurts the affection of the song giving a recipy how you are supposed to understand and feel them, I'm finding it very interesting to discuss how other people receive the song. And like you say he is great in making his songs ambiguous, leading to a interesting spectrum of thoughts.
But Jon Crosby clearly decided for himself to give out some background information of the song, which only spices up the discussion in my opinion.

never understand why people came here for say that they like the songs. i mean you can say that in youtube comments if you like, or another site where you can express your love for the song; but in this site it's for post your own interpretation. if you wanna say ''oh i love this song, it's very pretty'' you should go to another site and don't fill this one with trash comments.