I read an interview with Jon Crosby ( Original member/founder of VAST.. vocals and damn near everything else :) ) and he went into great detail about this song. It was written about a disaterous relationship he had previously. The woman had (i don't remember details) some form of mental issues and so the relationship was very unstable
, going from intense bouts of passion to equally intense fits of violence. They were together a while before it finally ended, and a fair bit of damge was done to both sides... needless to say it wasn't a very good time in his life. The lyrics really show the spiteful, hateful things people do to each other when things go bad, eg. 'I didn't want to hurt you but you're pretty when you cry ' etc. You get the idea.
Hope you find this helpful.
That was from a period of time when we weren't talking. I didn't realize Jon had discussed this so publicly. Yes, the relationship resulted in arrest. I didn't press charges. I also didn't phone the police: some neighbor did because we were shouting. I remember being pissed off that they confiscated my pillowcase - it was an original Herself the Elf (limited edition) pillowcase from when I was a kid. So I guess if he mentioned it, well I should try to set...
That was from a period of time when we weren't talking. I didn't realize Jon had discussed this so publicly. Yes, the relationship resulted in arrest. I didn't press charges. I also didn't phone the police: some neighbor did because we were shouting. I remember being pissed off that they confiscated my pillowcase - it was an original Herself the Elf (limited edition) pillowcase from when I was a kid. So I guess if he mentioned it, well I should try to set that record straight already. I have with him, obviously. But we didn't talk again in person for about 5 years, although we spoke on the phone occasionally.
What a poisonous article.
That was the only incident of violence, however, except once I found him with another woman so I trashed her car in the heat of passion and once I caught him sleeping with a girl and I think I made a scene. I suppose that made him think I was crazy, but he knows I was just human. That sort of thing wasn't an everyday thing. We'd been breaking up back and forth for a few months at the end, and that was the final straw for me, coming to his house at 5 am and finding this other woman there dancing in his window wearing some black lacy thing, mocking me! I didn't get arrested, just cited.
Neither one of us ever had anything put on our records because neither one of us committed crimes.
I don't want to get into the suffocation thing, however, because substances were involved.
It's kind of crazy to think about in retrospect, but ah well, live. Or die.
It sounds so Jerry Springer that I hate talking about it.
Of course, I was like 19 years old.
Both of us were pretty intense back then. That probably still holds true. Most people can probably relate to flip outs during horrible breakups and the inevitable shit talking that comes after all that, not to mention misunderstandings. Good thing none of that happens when you've got a microphone in front of you.
it's about how he took advantage of her love for him to bed her. it's a demonstartion of his sense of objectification and entitlement. perfect example of the profile of an emotional abuser. she was probably intense with him because she sensed his mistreatment of her. also typical in abusive realtionships...he wants to be "crazy makin" and make her think it's her. yet he admits he used her, and finds no problem with it. he goes around whining that he is constantly being mistreated because he sees no fault in himself. they...
it's about how he took advantage of her love for him to bed her. it's a demonstartion of his sense of objectification and entitlement. perfect example of the profile of an emotional abuser. she was probably intense with him because she sensed his mistreatment of her. also typical in abusive realtionships...he wants to be "crazy makin" and make her think it's her. yet he admits he used her, and finds no problem with it. he goes around whining that he is constantly being mistreated because he sees no fault in himself. they want you to focus on what they think they feels, rather on what they think, what their mentality is. bend for me, and don't dare ask for me to for you...and then they punish (hold your love, and don;t let you go, then blame you for when they finally sense their hold slip or get bored, and they leave...they leave a mess of you) and make pop songs that everyone loves, which furthers the mentality. social messages that it is totally ok to use and abuse the "lesser sex", because sex sells
and i'm sorry to you honey, for in your youth you couldn't have known better. lovely how everyone wants to blmae the gal, when he was a philanderer and doing things that caused you unnecessary pain. he got mad at you for being mad at him. he launched a music career, you got trouble and a song forever marking this pain. healing for you.
you were not crazy, just passionate. he led you to believe the passion was equal. it was, but in a traumatic way. "male priveledge" is what it's called. and...
and i'm sorry to you honey, for in your youth you couldn't have known better. lovely how everyone wants to blmae the gal, when he was a philanderer and doing things that caused you unnecessary pain. he got mad at you for being mad at him. he launched a music career, you got trouble and a song forever marking this pain. healing for you.
you were not crazy, just passionate. he led you to believe the passion was equal. it was, but in a traumatic way. "male priveledge" is what it's called. and the gal goes down every time, because everyone sides with him..."she's crazy" they say. well yeah, your heart was being tugged in all directions and he couldn't care less, yet made you feel should stay by offering "love" when you caught him or he sensed his hold fail. so you stay. and he laughs about it in a song, like you are an idiot. asshat immature little weasel. this happens far too often in our country. thankgod you never got preggers with him. i'm now losing my kids to an jerk like this. he doesn't even want them, just wants to be on top
I read an interview with Jon Crosby ( Original member/founder of VAST.. vocals and damn near everything else :) ) and he went into great detail about this song. It was written about a disaterous relationship he had previously. The woman had (i don't remember details) some form of mental issues and so the relationship was very unstable , going from intense bouts of passion to equally intense fits of violence. They were together a while before it finally ended, and a fair bit of damge was done to both sides... needless to say it wasn't a very good time in his life. The lyrics really show the spiteful, hateful things people do to each other when things go bad, eg. 'I didn't want to hurt you but you're pretty when you cry ' etc. You get the idea. Hope you find this helpful.
Yeah, you're thinking of this interview:
Yeah, you're thinking of this interview:
http://www.ink19.com/issues_F/98_06/ink_spots/vast_nf.html
http://www.ink19.com/issues_F/98_06/ink_spots/vast_nf.html
That was from a period of time when we weren't talking. I didn't realize Jon had discussed this so publicly. Yes, the relationship resulted in arrest. I didn't press charges. I also didn't phone the police: some neighbor did because we were shouting. I remember being pissed off that they confiscated my pillowcase - it was an original Herself the Elf (limited edition) pillowcase from when I was a kid. So I guess if he mentioned it, well I should try to set...
That was from a period of time when we weren't talking. I didn't realize Jon had discussed this so publicly. Yes, the relationship resulted in arrest. I didn't press charges. I also didn't phone the police: some neighbor did because we were shouting. I remember being pissed off that they confiscated my pillowcase - it was an original Herself the Elf (limited edition) pillowcase from when I was a kid. So I guess if he mentioned it, well I should try to set that record straight already. I have with him, obviously. But we didn't talk again in person for about 5 years, although we spoke on the phone occasionally.
What a poisonous article.
That was the only incident of violence, however, except once I found him with another woman so I trashed her car in the heat of passion and once I caught him sleeping with a girl and I think I made a scene. I suppose that made him think I was crazy, but he knows I was just human. That sort of thing wasn't an everyday thing. We'd been breaking up back and forth for a few months at the end, and that was the final straw for me, coming to his house at 5 am and finding this other woman there dancing in his window wearing some black lacy thing, mocking me! I didn't get arrested, just cited.
Neither one of us ever had anything put on our records because neither one of us committed crimes.
I don't want to get into the suffocation thing, however, because substances were involved.
It's kind of crazy to think about in retrospect, but ah well, live. Or die.
It sounds so Jerry Springer that I hate talking about it.
Of course, I was like 19 years old.
Both of us were pretty intense back then. That probably still holds true. Most people can probably relate to flip outs during horrible breakups and the inevitable shit talking that comes after all that, not to mention misunderstandings. Good thing none of that happens when you've got a microphone in front of you.
it's about how he took advantage of her love for him to bed her. it's a demonstartion of his sense of objectification and entitlement. perfect example of the profile of an emotional abuser. she was probably intense with him because she sensed his mistreatment of her. also typical in abusive realtionships...he wants to be "crazy makin" and make her think it's her. yet he admits he used her, and finds no problem with it. he goes around whining that he is constantly being mistreated because he sees no fault in himself. they...
it's about how he took advantage of her love for him to bed her. it's a demonstartion of his sense of objectification and entitlement. perfect example of the profile of an emotional abuser. she was probably intense with him because she sensed his mistreatment of her. also typical in abusive realtionships...he wants to be "crazy makin" and make her think it's her. yet he admits he used her, and finds no problem with it. he goes around whining that he is constantly being mistreated because he sees no fault in himself. they want you to focus on what they think they feels, rather on what they think, what their mentality is. bend for me, and don't dare ask for me to for you...and then they punish (hold your love, and don;t let you go, then blame you for when they finally sense their hold slip or get bored, and they leave...they leave a mess of you) and make pop songs that everyone loves, which furthers the mentality. social messages that it is totally ok to use and abuse the "lesser sex", because sex sells
and i'm sorry to you honey, for in your youth you couldn't have known better. lovely how everyone wants to blmae the gal, when he was a philanderer and doing things that caused you unnecessary pain. he got mad at you for being mad at him. he launched a music career, you got trouble and a song forever marking this pain. healing for you. you were not crazy, just passionate. he led you to believe the passion was equal. it was, but in a traumatic way. "male priveledge" is what it's called. and...
and i'm sorry to you honey, for in your youth you couldn't have known better. lovely how everyone wants to blmae the gal, when he was a philanderer and doing things that caused you unnecessary pain. he got mad at you for being mad at him. he launched a music career, you got trouble and a song forever marking this pain. healing for you.
you were not crazy, just passionate. he led you to believe the passion was equal. it was, but in a traumatic way. "male priveledge" is what it's called. and the gal goes down every time, because everyone sides with him..."she's crazy" they say. well yeah, your heart was being tugged in all directions and he couldn't care less, yet made you feel should stay by offering "love" when you caught him or he sensed his hold fail. so you stay. and he laughs about it in a song, like you are an idiot. asshat immature little weasel. this happens far too often in our country. thankgod you never got preggers with him. i'm now losing my kids to an jerk like this. he doesn't even want them, just wants to be on top