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Weak Fantasy Lyrics
These stories given to us all
Are filled with sacrifice and robes of lust
Dissonant choirs and downcast eyes
Selfhood of a condescending ape
Behold the crown of a heavenly spy
Forged in blood of those who defy
Kiss the ring, praise and sing
He loves you dwelling in fear and sin
Fear is a choice you embrace
Your only truth
Tribal poetry
Witchcraft filling your void
Lust for fantasy
Male necrocracy
Every child worthy of a better tale
Pick your author from à la carte fantasy
Filled with suffering and slavery
You live only for the days to come
Shoveling trash of the upper caste
Smiling mouth in a rotting head
Sucking dry the teat of the scared
A storytelling breed we are
A starving crew with show-off toys
Fear is a choice you embrace
From words into war of the worlds
This one we forsake with scorn
From lies the strength of our love
Mother’s milk laced with poison for this newborn
Wake up child, I have a story to tell
Once upon a time
Are filled with sacrifice and robes of lust
Dissonant choirs and downcast eyes
Selfhood of a condescending ape
Forged in blood of those who defy
Kiss the ring, praise and sing
He loves you dwelling in fear and sin
Tribal poetry
Witchcraft filling your void
Lust for fantasy
Male necrocracy
Every child worthy of a better tale
Filled with suffering and slavery
You live only for the days to come
Shoveling trash of the upper caste
Sucking dry the teat of the scared
A storytelling breed we are
A starving crew with show-off toys
This one we forsake with scorn
From lies the strength of our love
Mother’s milk laced with poison for this newborn
Once upon a time
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It seems to be critical of religions that rely upon fear to control people.
@Ganondox In an interview Marco specifies it's about all "by the book religions", not just Christianity, even though it's the most obvious parallel.
@Ganondox In an interview Marco specifies it's about all "by the book religions", not just Christianity, even though it's the most obvious parallel.
This song is about relion, about how, no matter which religion we pick, we are just choosing a fantasy to believe in. (pick your author from a la carte fantasy) To fill with witchcraft (religion) our void (that life has no meaning). And thus we create a meaning for life thought fantasy, even thought every one (every new born child) deserve better then to worship death (necrocracy - Nietzche called the cristian priests the death worshipers); and should learn to worship life (nature) instead
@RicardoMSLanna this is the correct interpretation. Well done
@RicardoMSLanna this is the correct interpretation. Well done
I was shocked when this song came out, since in many of Nightwish's songs in the past consisted of some mention or another about religions and beliefs, especially Christianity. It was one of the things I loved about their music, how Tuomas seemed to be accepting of everything and had a fascination with it.
Even in the previous album with "Last Ride of the Day", there's the line "what's God is not the spark that started life". Then we got slammed with this, with "Behold the crown of a heavenly spy / Forged in blood of those who defy / Kiss the ring, praise and sing / He loves you dwelling in fear and sin", and so forth. It makes me wonder what happened in those four years, and why Tuomas all of a sudden has taken this turn.
I won't go too personal into it, and though I am very disappointed by this, all I really want to know is why his thoughts on it changed so much. From my own personal experience and I'm sure many of you have too, religion can be extremely toxic and hurtful, so I assume something along those lines must have happened towards him, so much so that he felt as if this needed to be written. I'm gonna sound petty here, but it soured the whole album for me. We go from listening to lyrics that explore beliefs in a beautiful way, to harshly speaking against a religion and marking it as false; a getaway from reality, which to some, may be true, but to others it's a way of life.
Now, I see where he's coming from, but that doesn't change the fact that I think this is unnecessary. I understand that the whole concept of this album is evolution and how everyone came to be without the aid of some supernatural being, but was this really needed?
@Sapherd I have to agree, and this is coming from someone who has explored both New Age and Christianity. I really like Nightwish for what they did, unlike various metal bands that like to attack these things a lot. Sad to see that the band gets derailed into just another metal band angry at religion.
@Sapherd I have to agree, and this is coming from someone who has explored both New Age and Christianity. I really like Nightwish for what they did, unlike various metal bands that like to attack these things a lot. Sad to see that the band gets derailed into just another metal band angry at religion.
@Sapherd @Cyndane I agree with both of these comments. I am also sad at this turn in the lyric writing (and the inclusion of the Richard Dawkins commentaries/voice overs). On the plus side the 2 and 3 disc versions have the instrumentals/orchestrals which I've been listening to instead. Lyrics aside, I do think that Floor's vocal skills are amazing on this album - it's just a shame about the poor lyrics.
@Sapherd @Cyndane I agree with both of these comments. I am also sad at this turn in the lyric writing (and the inclusion of the Richard Dawkins commentaries/voice overs). On the plus side the 2 and 3 disc versions have the instrumentals/orchestrals which I've been listening to instead. Lyrics aside, I do think that Floor's vocal skills are amazing on this album - it's just a shame about the poor lyrics.
@Sapherd I thought this site is for deciphering lyrics, not for telling others your important personal opinion about them.
@Sapherd I thought this site is for deciphering lyrics, not for telling others your important personal opinion about them.
@Sapherd I completely agree with everything said here. I don't mind Dawkins much, his voice is good and he's supposed to be a renowned scientist (though the single video of his I've seen presented a nonsensical argument); and anyone denying evolution is a tool (though they have every right to do so, I guess)... but damn, Tuomas. I loved you, mate, even before the 200%-spot-on (in my opinion) line from Last Ride of the Day. No need to suddenly hate on everything. (Also, as a wannabe-writer of a fantasy novel, a title such as "Weak Fantasy" is directly attacking my insecurity....
@Sapherd I completely agree with everything said here. I don't mind Dawkins much, his voice is good and he's supposed to be a renowned scientist (though the single video of his I've seen presented a nonsensical argument); and anyone denying evolution is a tool (though they have every right to do so, I guess)... but damn, Tuomas. I loved you, mate, even before the 200%-spot-on (in my opinion) line from Last Ride of the Day. No need to suddenly hate on everything. (Also, as a wannabe-writer of a fantasy novel, a title such as "Weak Fantasy" is directly attacking my insecurity. :D)
@Yuuri You can notice the "My Opinion" tag at the top of the question; you can select tags when you post a reply.
@Sapherd I wouldn't say that people denying evolution are tools. Microevolution is one thing, but evolution as Darwin tried to depict it (i.e. suggesting that we all come from one common ancestor) is just as much based on faith than religion. Lots of the arguments used by Darwin have been proven untrue and many evolution scientists are sceptic. Unfortunately, the biology textbooks still see it as truth even though the theory doesn't hold the road anymore.
@Sapherd I wouldn't say that people denying evolution are tools. Microevolution is one thing, but evolution as Darwin tried to depict it (i.e. suggesting that we all come from one common ancestor) is just as much based on faith than religion. Lots of the arguments used by Darwin have been proven untrue and many evolution scientists are sceptic. Unfortunately, the biology textbooks still see it as truth even though the theory doesn't hold the road anymore.
It describes how everyone has a void in their soul. We are all trying to find a way to fill this void. And sometimes we fill it with bad things. Such as "witchcraft". We may even fill it with a faith in something that is in fact damaging and manipulative. We are at risk at being exploited.
The world is in a terrible state due to people being corrupted. Lust for power or pleasure in manipulating others. This invites darkness into a world that our children will inherit. What have they done to deserve this?
@bluebottleblue I like your view.
@bluebottleblue I like your view.
@Yuuri Actually, there are many different comments you can make. When you go to make a comment, there are different types you can select (for example, General Comment, Memory, My Interpretation, Song Meaning, My Opinion, and so forth). For the comment I made, I selected "My Opinion", since that's what it is. It's simply my own opinion and take on this song, on the album.
@Sapherd My bad, I noticed that options only after posting, and comments are non-editable and non-deletable. Please sorry for an inappropriate criticism.
@Sapherd My bad, I noticed that options only after posting, and comments are non-editable and non-deletable. Please sorry for an inappropriate criticism.
@Yuuri No worries! Yeah, I wish comments were able to be edited/deleted as well.
@Yuuri No worries! Yeah, I wish comments were able to be edited/deleted as well.
Funny how people say this is a song about religion. I find it hard to find any other reading than that this song is about Christianity, pure and simple - albeit a markedly negative view, but then, they recorded the album with Richard Dawkins, so I don't see why people are so surprised...
The introductory quote by Dawkins is from The God Delusion - regarding his view that children should not be submitted to religious education. Dawkins' view on religion and Christianity is quite clear.
The crown, the "kiss the ring" as a symbol for worship of a king (God), are all Abrahamic and Christian principles. "Tribal poetry" is a comment on the Old Testament, as the Hebrew/Israelite foundational text - one of many. But "Male Necrocracy" is clearly a comment on Christianity and its position of a dead (reborn) heavenly ruler, i.e. Christ. More generally, of course, it can be seen as a criticism of most religions that place more emphasis on life after death than on life itself (or so critics often say).
Lyrics are clearly about religion and Christianity. I\'m curious how much of it is coming from Tuomas and how much of it is the rest of the group because I find it interesting that Floor performs Christmas songs that are Christian and seems to really enjoy it. Nor does her personality seem to want to be antagonistic towards a very large population of people who also make up their fan base. Find it interesting that she could perform a song around Christmas that is specifically about the birth of Jesus if she really feels that way towards Christians. I have to believe that it is Tuomas\' perspective written prior to her joining the group. Seems awfully contradictory.