Inconvenient Ideal (English)

It's so obvious... look at the words.

"The morals swallowed by the waves, sway inside the basket and sleep"

"It disappears without even being able to let out a word Was it freedom that we won? Feeling the body temperature of my dream and I pray Everything gets twisted Deep into the red darkness This life I hold high and proud.. "

Something pure and beautiful was shattered; the goals and ideals that were so deeply cherished within some great strugle were lost, perverted, became depraved somehow... and no one remembers. Everyone has forgotten what it meant, what the purpose was to it all in the first place. Almost mindlessly, a true and benevolent thing was twisted until it became something disgustingly opposite to what it should have been, and no one remembers what it was for anymore.

first comment. woot. So far this song(well the whole album)has been my favorite. Everything plays off eachother so well in this song. Kyo's singing also adds a haunting melody to the instruments, it's just so awesome. For what's it about, I can hazard a guess, but it's about trying to continually try to grasp something that's so far high above you, just to plummet bcak down to start over. Just a guess if anyone wants to build off of it ^^

Oh man. This is so powerful. It could be about a myriad of things. Abortion...A hope crushed. I feel like the title says it all "An Inconvenient Ideal"...its life. A very jaded view of what the world has become, and how the choices people have made in the name of freedom and free choice, are destroying us. I love this part "Was it freedom that we won? Feeling the body temperature of my dream and I pray Everything gets twisted Deep into the red darkness This life I hold high and proud.." It's like him saying wow...this is what we did. The world is going to hell...this is what I did with my life...I"m not happy with myself.

I LOVE THIS

I do so love this song ^_^ and i do so love Dir en grey. XD

I dont know, but the ending lines make it sound like a whole subject thats personal.

I've thought some about this lately, and yeah it could mean more than the abortion thing which deadxlettersxc mentioned. Kyo seems to have sung enough about that I think, he probably means something more. Particularly from the chorus:

"It disappears without even being able to let out a word Was it freedom that we won?"

I think it could also be referring to war. I infer that from the line "was it freedom that we won?" That one line doesn't quite seem to fit in with the abortion theme, although I once thought it did.

"It disappears without even being able to let out a word" -- that could be the people who are destroyed before they know what hit them.

The rest doesn't really conflict with it either (and maybe is strengthened, like by "the heartrending beast"). Perhaps the baby, shortly after birth, was killed in a time of war. And the mother is left wondering why it has to be this way. The lines in the end don't fit all too well though.

I definetly think it's about abortion.

"The morals swallowed by the waves, sway inside the basket and sleep"

Much like Jaitara already said, he's describing how our sense of morality and meaning is slipping away in a world where people can have promiscuous sex then snuff out the responsibility and meaning that comes with it.

"Was it freedom that we won?"I almost cried when I read this. Wagahomodachi, I think this line definitely fits with the abortion theme. In the name of freedom, we're taking the lives of our unborn babies obviously without their consent. Also, our own freedom is tainted with guilt, and having meaningful relationships with others is becoming more and more difficult.

Well, then, it's the "won" part I don't quite get. It could be referring to how the right to abortion has been challenged in court and the "freedom of choice", or that from "responsibility" which you mentioned.

I still don't think it has to be about just that; "arasoieta mono" seems to signify more warfare than anything else, being that which you fought for.

I think there's still a certain amount of disconnect from the original lyrics and the translation. But yes, I can see where you're coming from.

what's with the "hironori nishimura" stuff? i thought his name was tooru.

well anyway, great song, i always go to sleep on it

I think this is about either abortion or killing a baby; "was it freedom what we won" makes me think of a couple asking themselves if now that their baby is gone, are they really "free" again? Then, "even the love that is locked inside the shell is swallowed by the heartless beast, what makes them do it?" The shell could be either the womb or a cradle; maybe even an incubator or whatever is called. The heartless beast could be the mother aborting or the person who killed the baby. Then he asks what makes people do such thing. "Deep into the red darkness" could be about blood. If this song was about abortion, maybe the mother bleeds out... She feels dizzy ("everything gets twisted") and then she dies, thou I don't really get the part when he says "This life I hold high and proud.. " if it were about abortion or killing a child... It's just a wild guess...