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Alsatian Cousin Lyrics
Were you and he Lovers ?
And would you say so if you were ?
On a forecourt
On a Friday
Passing my way
Oh...
Were you and he Lovers ?
And if you were, then say that you were!
On a groundsheet
Under canvas
With your tent-flap
open wide
A note upon his desk
"P.S. Bring Me Home And Have Me!"
Leather elbows on a tweed coat
-Oh!-
Is THAT the best you can do ?
So came his reply :
"But on the desk is where I want you!"
So I ask (even though I know):
Were you and he Lovers ?
And would you say so if you were ?
On a forecourt
On a Friday
Passing my way
Oh...
And if you were, then say that you were!
On a groundsheet
Under canvas
With your tent-flap
open wide
"P.S. Bring Me Home And Have Me!"
Leather elbows on a tweed coat
-Oh!-
Is THAT the best you can do ?
So came his reply :
"But on the desk is where I want you!"
Were you and he Lovers ?
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Alsatian: Derogatory noun or adjective for an unattractive woman.
This song is about an unattractive girl who is jealous over the affair of two people, one whom she is the secret admirer of. She sits behind him in class. She has been spying on the two, observing their affairs. One day, the two are passing a note in class. She can see that the note says, "BRING ME HOME AND HAVE ME" (Leather elbows on a tweed coat) is in reference to the other person he is having the affair with. This is stating in a catty way, that this person has no sense of style, and is asked honestly, "Is that the best you can do?" She sees him write the reply, "BUT ON THE DESK IS WHERE I WANT YOU" She knows that they are lovers, but confronts him anyway asking, "Where you and he lovers?" Pressing him to admit his homosexuality. This action is out of jealousy. "WERE YOU AND HE LOVERS, AND WOULD YOU SAY SO IF YOU WERE?"
Alsatian Cousin is about falling for someone you know you will never have. In this case, a double-edged sword. Knowing you are unattractive and at the same time knowing the other person can never be attracted to you, because of sexual preference.
Morrissey has always confronted the frustrations of sexuality, both hetero and homo. Women falling for him, but he not being able to feel the same way. He, falling for men that would never consider the thought. Offering himself sexually to fans who are always willing, only to be let down from rejection in a private off-stage affair. Morrissey finds himself feeling unattractive, subjecting to self deprication. "WHERE THE WORLDS UGLIEST BOY BECAME WHAT YOU SEE, HERE I AM, THE UGLIEST MAN." from: Late Night Maudlin Street
Morrissey relates himself to the Alsatian Cousin.
Excellent interpretation, though I relate to it more in just the unrequited love sense. Its such a vicious song and i've felt its lyrics and atmosphere vut pretty deep.
Excellent interpretation, though I relate to it more in just the unrequited love sense. Its such a vicious song and i've felt its lyrics and atmosphere vut pretty deep.
"were you and he lovers?" ohhhh, said with such sorrowfull anger!
"were you and he lovers?" ohhhh, said with such sorrowfull anger!
@lguillen73 que rebuscado, no tiene sentido que hable desde la perspectiva de una mujer, parece ser un hombre que confronta a una mujer que le gusta sabiendo bien que es amante de otro hombre, que desagradable que quieran ver gays en todo. O sea cada quien lo adapta a su vida pero eso no significa que trate de eso. No hay ningun indicio homo en esta canción
@lguillen73 que rebuscado, no tiene sentido que hable desde la perspectiva de una mujer, parece ser un hombre que confronta a una mujer que le gusta sabiendo bien que es amante de otro hombre, que desagradable que quieran ver gays en todo. O sea cada quien lo adapta a su vida pero eso no significa que trate de eso. No hay ningun indicio homo en esta canción
@lguillen73 que rebuscado, no tiene sentido que hable desde la perspectiva de una mujer, parece ser un hombre que confronta a una mujer que le gusta sabiendo que es amante de otro hombre, que desagradable que quieran ver gays en todo. O sea cada quien lo adapta a su vida pero eso no significa que trate de eso. No hay ningún indicio de homo en esta canción.
@lguillen73 que rebuscado, no tiene sentido que hable desde la perspectiva de una mujer, parece ser un hombre que confronta a una mujer que le gusta sabiendo que es amante de otro hombre, que desagradable que quieran ver gays en todo. O sea cada quien lo adapta a su vida pero eso no significa que trate de eso. No hay ningún indicio de homo en esta canción.
I can't say I thought this song was about a gay relationship:
"With your tent-flap open wide,"
This sounds like a really mean-spirited reference to a woman on her back with her legs open. He's putting her down, and he's putting down her lovemaking, cheapening it. This song is about the anger, frustration, feeling of weakness and rejection of a man who's lover's decided to take someone else.
I completely agree with you on this Komeko. Thats also the first thing that came to mind when i heard that line.
I completely agree with you on this Komeko. Thats also the first thing that came to mind when i heard that line.
What makes you think the other person is a girl. "His desk" and "His reply". It sounds like two men.
Im pretty sure that Morrissey is reffering to the same "him". Like he reads a note on his desk (placed by an unknown gender) then his reply is "But on the desk is where I want you"
Im pretty sure that Morrissey is reffering to the same "him". Like he reads a note on his desk (placed by an unknown gender) then his reply is "But on the desk is where I want you"
No women involved in this song.
I don't know about anyone else, but I always took "tent flap" as a reference to a guy having a hard-on underneath his pants. You know, the "tent" created by the guy's dick, and the flap being the zipper/opening to his pants. It seems to go with the general thread of homosexuality in Morrissey's songs. "Tent flap / Open wide".... the "open wide" part can be taken one of two ways. Lol.
Curious fact. Johnny Marr owned two Alsatians at the time of the smiths, Rufus and Curtis. Just throwing that out there.
A jealous ex-boyfriend, who has seen them do some dirty stuff, and she probably lies about it. And then he confronts her with it.
zeroed_out you could take that just as easily both ways It could also be about a woman and a man, as I will show here:
A note upon his desk (this is a note Girl left on Man's desk)
"P.S. Bring Me Home And Have Me!" (the note is from Girl, and it asks Man to take Girl home and have Girl).
Leather elbows on a tweed coat -Oh!- Is THAT the best you can do ? (Narrator is talking to Girl now, asking Girl if Man's the best Girl can do. Narrator is not amused by the note Girl put on Man's desk (which Narrator read) because Narrator thinks Girl can do better in finding a mate than settling for Man)
So came his reply : (so came the reply from Man to Girl) "But on the desk is where I want you!" (Man wants Girl to stay and have it on the desk, not go home).
Where's the homosexual notes in that? We could just as easily replace Girl with Second Man - it could be ANY sex. Maybe you're reading your own preferences into it?
I can't say I thought this song was about a gay relationship:
"With your tent-flap open wide,"
This sounds like a really mean-spirited reference to a woman on her back with her legs open. He's putting her down, and he's putting down her lovemaking, cheapening it. This song is about the anger, frustration, feeling of weakness and rejection of a man who's lover's decided to take someone else.
oooh its about office romance I swear