Mildewed and smoldering. Fundamental differing.
Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
We cannot see to reach an end crippling our communication.
I know the pieces fit 'cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame it doesn't mean I don't desire to
Point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication
The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.
There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing
Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication.
Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any
Sense of compassion
Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers
I know the pieces fit
This song represents the unitarian viewpoint. That at one point all religions were the right one, than, they fell apart. The pieces are now corrupt, molded shadows of the once great temple. This song says if the pieces don't communicate with each other than we are doomed. At least, that is what I hear.
I used to listen to Tool a bit, and I think that your interpritation of this song is correct.
I used to listen to Tool a bit, and I think that your interpritation of this song is correct.
I am glad that true Christianity is not a religion at all....it is simply a relationship with God. If more people understood that, then they would understand why Christianity is distinct from every religion in the world, and therefore not compatible with them. For those who are interested, I have explained this in more detail in the following article on my site:
I am glad that true Christianity is not a religion at all....it is simply a relationship with God. If more people understood that, then they would understand why Christianity is distinct from every religion in the world, and therefore not compatible with them. For those who are interested, I have explained this in more detail in the following article on my site:
"Christianity is not a religion at all"
"Christianity is distinct from every religion in the world"
If it isn't a religion at all, how can you compare it with other religions?
"Christianity is not a religion at all"
"Christianity is distinct from every religion in the world"
If it isn't a religion at all, how can you compare it with other religions?
Christianity is not different from other religions. You just think that it is because it is all you know. Religion is a lot like music; most people just stick with what they were raised on. And then some people find their own identities, but in the end, it's all the same.
Christianity is not different from other religions. You just think that it is because it is all you know. Religion is a lot like music; most people just stick with what they were raised on. And then some people find their own identities, but in the end, it's all the same.
I have to agree with a lot of what everyone has said... the main fact I HAVE to agree with is that Maynard incorporates so many different meanings into his songs that almost anyone who makes an interpretation is correct, because he makes the music, and expects people to make their own interpretation and apply it to their own personal life... however i'll just tell it the way I see it, which is probably far from the truth, but it's my own personal truth.
For a long time I considered this song from the relationship stand point. I still see the strong arguements made to the relationship testament in this song... it very well could deal with 2 depleted lovers... and how although once the pieces were all there, yet after losing everything they had and breaking into those "pieces", he wishes to re-find them... bring them back together... I mean that can even be seen in the video (but I'll make a different point on the video later) where in the end they come together, reforming the one... which is what i believe a relationship does. It takes 2 people and forms them into 1 body...
But that's not even what this interpretation is about... after a long time of pondering over it, I've come to realize I think the song is about the religious aspect of it all... there are a lot of Tool songs that deal with religion... so... here goes nothin.
Okay, the hardest area for me to cover is who the song seems to be coming from... I don't feel that Maynard meant for this to seem as if it's coming from his mouth... maybe these words are meant to be from Christ? but my best feeling is that the words are simply from any believer who can realize what has happened to "faith" because of the blunder known as "religion"...
At one time, the "church" was one body. It was a singular unit, set on one system of beliefs that everyone who had faith followed... there was none of this "denomination" shit... "I know the pieces fit, cuz i watched them fall away" (saying that he knows religion should be one body, even though it's not. he's seen the separations) "Mildewed and smoldering. Fundamental differing" (rotten and burned up, to put it into different terms... when he says fundamental differing, i think he's showing the basis for the break... that from the very FUNDAMENTALS of the belief structure, there started to be DIFFERING feelings among people, and how they wanted to express them) "Pure Intention juxtaposed will set 2 lovers souls in motion" (meaning that although the intentions every time were pure, they were juxtaposed, or twised, and because of that, it sat 2 lovers [of Christ] into almost a square off to see who could be MORE correct) "Distentigrating as it goes, testing our communication" (simply saying the square off was what orignially caused the separation into pieces, and it caused a lack of discussion) "The light that fueled the fire then has burned a hole between us so we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication" (the light of passion that originally fueled our fire [love] for Christ is what, in the end, tore us apart and burned a hole between us... it's caused the end of the communication as well) "I know the pieces fit cuz i watched them tumble down. No fault, none to blame, that doesn't mean I don't desire to point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over bring the pieces back together, rediscover communcation" (I think here the meaning is that although no one is directly to blame for this break, because every "piece" that was broken was done in the name of righteousness. Still, he thinks he's right, so he wants to be able to point the finger, say the OTHER was wrong. Yet still he wants to see the separate temples topple over, and the pieces brought back together, so they can reunite under one belief system."
I know the end of that last interpretation was a bit shaky, because i say that the meaning of the "temple toppling over" was the separate temples, so they could be reunited... but i think my theory is backed up in the next paragraph.
"The poetry that comes from the squaring off between, and the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance" (although the separation needs to end, the writer is saying that the separation NEEDED to happen... because the church split, and each went it's own direction, the poetry [writings, findings, ideals] that came from the separation, and the fighting was worth it. It brings new truths back to the faith, thus strengthening it.)
The next paragraph just restates the others... that the whole was broken into the "pieces" due to the fighting and coveting. The writer knows that they MUST return together. otherwise the separate pieces will fall. They must grow, and strengthen, and reunite.
At the end, Maynard says "Cold silence had a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion between supposed lovers".... I think what he's saying is that the breaks have cause us to lose true LOVE for our counterparts (the other pieces)... and we're SUPPOSED to be lovers of Christ, or the one true god (whatever your belief states that that is)... but how can we be if we can't even get along with our fellow believers?
Okay, to wrap this all up... I'll refer to the video one more time... although it can be seen as 2 separate people becoming one, i believe it's the "church" reforming into one unit... I mean notice what happens to the 2 separated people [who represent "denominations"]... they almost seem to be trying to outdo the other. I mean one even stands on his head during the song. It seems they're trying to show that they're the BETTER group (which you can't deny happens today). Yet in the end, the 2 come together, reforming the one true body...
Thanks for reading my entirely too long interpretation... I know a lot of what I've said isn't right, but I like to believe that my belief is pretty close. However, once again, Tool's music is meant for you to make your OWN interpretation, so you can apply it to your own life... Once again, sorry this is so long (as are all of my other interpretations). Continue to keep posting, and keep open that third eye...
Okay, to wrap this all up... I'll refer to the video one more time... although it can be seen as 2 separate people becoming one, i believe it's the "church" reforming into one unit... I mean notice what happens to the 2 separated people [who represent "denominations"]... they almost seem to be trying to outdo the other. I mean one even stands on his head during the song. It seems they're trying to show that they're the BETTER group (which you can't deny happens today). Yet in the end, the 2 come together, reforming the one true body...
Okay, to wrap this all up... I'll refer to the video one more time... although it can be seen as 2 separate people becoming one, i believe it's the "church" reforming into one unit... I mean notice what happens to the 2 separated people [who represent "denominations"]... they almost seem to be trying to outdo the other. I mean one even stands on his head during the song. It seems they're trying to show that they're the BETTER group (which you can't deny happens today). Yet in the end, the 2 come together, reforming the one true body...
suggestion:...
suggestion: when the christian church was formed, it was by saint peter and saint paul, the TWO caretakers and preachers who, after jesus died, were left to carry forth the word. saint peter brought the church in one way: individualism and personal interpretation of religion, the preachings of love and tolerance (from jesus), liberalism saint paul brought the church in another: organization, mass production, the preaching of the book of revelations ie apocalyptic predictions, and persecution, esp of non believers...
perhaps the schism could be based on these differences that once worked together as opposites but were no longer functional and seperated into (more or less) totally different views on christianity? it is a type of relationship: a the relationship of different and opposing (sometimes contridicting) characteristics of religion: a caring and forgiving god...a vindictive and vicious god (mother...father) PLZ REPLY :D
you guys really hit the nail on the head here, in my opinion. that's exactly what i heard, listening to this song.
you guys really hit the nail on the head here, in my opinion. that's exactly what i heard, listening to this song.
yes maynard wants all christians to live as one and all together fight other fellow humans!!!
yes maynard wants all christians to live as one and all together fight other fellow humans!!!
sure thing dude
sure thing dude
ever read the lyrics of IMAGINE, a john lennon cover did by APC, which is maynards other band?
ever read the lyrics of IMAGINE, a john lennon cover did by APC, which is maynards other band?
the part saying "...no religion too..."
the part saying "...no religion too..."
I'd rather say this song is about all humans actually being one consciousness, but have been separated and driven to conflict by fundamentalism and look where the world is now...we are indeed at this state "Doomed to crumble unless we grow and strengthen our communication ", as said in the song
I'd rather say this song is about all humans actually being one consciousness, but have been separated and driven to conflict by fundamentalism and look where the world is now...we are indeed at this state "Doomed to crumble unless we grow and strengthen our communication ", as said in the song
I dont think this really has anything to do with religion at all, but its all in your take of it. Personally i look more at the relationship meaning. The pieces he is talking about, are pieces of the relationship, that he watched fall apart in front of his eyes. The strongest evidence is "cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion" He is saying that leaving things broken, and with hard feelings, will destroy any bond that was between two people.
'Schism' itself stems from religious, "I dont think this really has anything to do with religion at all" that might be a little to strong of an opinion.
'Schism' itself stems from religious, "I dont think this really has anything to do with religion at all" that might be a little to strong of an opinion.
my grammar is bad but my point is right.
my grammar is bad but my point is right.
@Randomidentity: While it is true that the word schism is usually used in connection with religion, it can be a split or division between any two parties. If you want to go with the religious sense, the lyrics can be interpreted thus: when two people become committed lovers, they join together spiritually to create one unit (or at least, that's what some people believe). In this case, the schism would be the division of the spiritual entity--a couple--into two separate people again. Also, schism is a very heavy world, with a stronger connotation that mere "separating";...
@Randomidentity: While it is true that the word schism is usually used in connection with religion, it can be a split or division between any two parties. If you want to go with the religious sense, the lyrics can be interpreted thus: when two people become committed lovers, they join together spiritually to create one unit (or at least, that's what some people believe). In this case, the schism would be the division of the spiritual entity--a couple--into two separate people again. Also, schism is a very heavy world, with a stronger connotation that mere "separating"; two units which used to be one have become irrevocably opposed. A separation from a serious relationship would indeed be a schism for most people.
This is a pretty strait forward piece If you have ever been in the situation before. When you can't seem to come to any sort of agreement with a loved one and it tears you apart. You can see the series of events that lead up to the situation at hand, but you can't change them. You watch yourself fit into the puzzle and start pointing the finger and blaming the other. You watch your communication start to "mildew and smolder" as you have lost touch with how to be open and honest with each other. You resent each other as well as yourslefs because you see you are doing the same.
Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy sense of compassion
Growing cold and bitter. This is when you begin to establish a rot in the foundation of your relationship. From here on out we are "Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication"
@psillypsymun Agreed
@psillypsymun Agreed
Tool is amazing and so is this song. I don't look so much at the religion aspect, but more at the relationship part. Either way you look at it, it's great.
Our religion teacher also says that there was only one way to sin and that is if you break a relationsship (to god). In that sense maybe it still can be religiously themed because, paraphrasing what has been posted above, the "holy gift" or whatever is compromised by man's attraction to a religious meritocracy of heaven and hell. It could be like why depend on god when man has the ability to do the work he deems necessary by himself, despite concidering it to be a matter of faith?
Our religion teacher also says that there was only one way to sin and that is if you break a relationsship (to god). In that sense maybe it still can be religiously themed because, paraphrasing what has been posted above, the "holy gift" or whatever is compromised by man's attraction to a religious meritocracy of heaven and hell. It could be like why depend on god when man has the ability to do the work he deems necessary by himself, despite concidering it to be a matter of faith?
Schism is about observing the dual nature of our minds, a cognitive dissonance and being aware of this afflictions various resultant forms of manifestation in our lives. It is a schism of our left and right brain hemispheres causing a split between our sacred male and sacred feminine characteristics, a separation of Yin and Yang, a fracture between logic and intuition, dis-harmony between the analytical and holistic thoughts of our minds.
Schism is about observing the dual nature of our minds, a cognitive dissonance and being aware of this afflictions various resultant forms of manifestation in our lives. It is a schism of our left and right brain hemispheres causing a split between our sacred male and sacred feminine characteristics, a separation of Yin and Yang, a fracture between logic and intuition, dis-harmony between the analytical and holistic thoughts of our minds.
With a fundamental understanding of this song and our minds we can observe the schism of the internal (disharmony of the mind) causing disharmony in the external (our...
With a fundamental understanding of this song and our minds we can observe the schism of the internal (disharmony of the mind) causing disharmony in the external (our world, our lives). You know the pieces fit because you watched them fall away.
When we can find unity once again, once we can reestablish harmonious communication within ourselves, resulting in harmony in our lives... we can make the pieces fit once again.
This is a pretty strait forward piece If you have ever been in the situation before. When you can't seem to come to any sort of agreement with a loved one and it tears you apart. You can see the series of events that lead up to the situation at hand, but you can't change them. You watch yourself fit into the puzzle and start pointing the finger and blaming the other. You watch your communication start to "mildew and smolder" as you have lost touch with how to be open and honest with each other. You resent each other as well as yourslefs because you see you are doing the same.
Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy sense of compassion
Growing cold and bitter. This is when you begin to establish a rot in the foundation of your relationship. From here on out we are "Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication"
Within any relationship there is a breakdown. I don't focus on the literal meaning of this song, but rather the meaning it has in myself. My breakdown of religious beliefs started with a tragedy in my life and has continued to grow as a deep void in my life. I resort to this song for entertainment and to let me know that there is nothing wrong with the fact that I am anti-religious. Tool incorporates several meanings into one song, but that is my personal view of his many talents. Listen and Feel.
I battled a similar situation, and found a void-filler (if you will) in the form of a religion that over-compensates for any type of self-loathing and inner-emptiness. Check out the url:
I battled a similar situation, and found a void-filler (if you will) in the form of a religion that over-compensates for any type of self-loathing and inner-emptiness. Check out the url:
www.lds.org
www.lds.org
You'd never guess that so many answers are there, you just need to find them. Here's your cheat-sheet/website.
You'd never guess that so many answers are there, you just need to find them. Here's your cheat-sheet/website.
Right. Schism is about observing the dual nature of our minds, a cognitive dissonance and being aware of this afflictions various resultant forms of manifestation in our lives. It is a schism of our left and right brain hemispheres causing a split between our sacred male and sacred feminine characteristics, a separation of Yin and Yang, a fracture between logic and intuition, dis-harmony between the analytical and holistic thoughts of our minds.
Right. Schism is about observing the dual nature of our minds, a cognitive dissonance and being aware of this afflictions various resultant forms of manifestation in our lives. It is a schism of our left and right brain hemispheres causing a split between our sacred male and sacred feminine characteristics, a separation of Yin and Yang, a fracture between logic and intuition, dis-harmony between the analytical and holistic thoughts of our minds.
With a fundamental understanding of this song and our minds we can observe the schism of the internal (disharmony of the mind) causing disharmony in the...
With a fundamental understanding of this song and our minds we can observe the schism of the internal (disharmony of the mind) causing disharmony in the external (our world, our lives). You know the pieces fit because you watched them fall away.
When we can find unity once again, once we can reestablish harmonious communication within ourselves, resulting in harmony in our lives... we can make the pieces fit once again.
This song is about the tower of babel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel
It's a biblical story about how after the flood all mankind spoke the same language. They decided to build a tower so tall that they could reach up to God. God was angry and he punished the people by giving them different languages and spreading them all over the planet, so that they could not cooperate to finish the building of the tower. Tool is singing about rebuilding the tower, probably not in a litteral way, but in a figurative way, they're talking about how mankind should "rediscover communication" and finding a way to reach God. At least, that makes perfect sense to me!
@jemma23 Well the Bible never says the people were trying to "reach God" by building the tower. It says they were trying to make a name for themselves (just like people do today - Trump Tower for instance) God wanted people to worship Him - not themselves. However, people always want to worship themselves and live with their own ideas of what is right and wrong instead of by what God says. This is why He destroyed the world with a flood in the first place. People are the same way again today. That is why we are close to...
@jemma23 Well the Bible never says the people were trying to "reach God" by building the tower. It says they were trying to make a name for themselves (just like people do today - Trump Tower for instance) God wanted people to worship Him - not themselves. However, people always want to worship themselves and live with their own ideas of what is right and wrong instead of by what God says. This is why He destroyed the world with a flood in the first place. People are the same way again today. That is why we are close to getting destroyed the second time (this time will be by fire instead of water).
tool kicks ass! i think there songs can have different meanings to different people depending on their past experiences--i've recently lost a good friend of mine over something stupid to me this song is about a friendship or a relationship that suddenly failed.
"I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away"- means that once everything was put together great but then something went wrong and the relationship fell apart.
"Testing our communication"- meaning through the relationship there were tests and events that tried to bring the realationship apart but failed.
"the light that fuled our fire than has burned a hole between us so"- meaning that the relationship it's self grew old and fell apart on it's own--
"crippling our communication" -means the relationship begins to slow down and slowly fall apart.
"no fault none to blame"- meaning it's no ones fault, the relationship just grew old.
"to point the finger blame the other" -meaning there is anger and sore feelings and that anger is expressed by putting the blame on the other-just human nature.
"to bring the pieces back together and rediscover communitcation" -meaning the relationship will never be over--when you meet a person and share experiences with someone, that person is apart of your life forever and no matter what happens they will always be apart of your life and your experience of living. so, after the relationship has been put on a temporary stand-by, the pieces can still come back together and communication can be rediscovered.
"the poetry that comes from the squarring off between and the circling is worth it finding beauty in the dissonace" this is the best part of the song-i believe it means that through the break off of this relationship, there is anger and hurt feelings, and through these feelings one is inspired
"finding beauty in the dissonance"-the inspiration that comes from the disagreement of the individuals in the relationship.
"ive done the math enough to know the dangers of a second guessing" -meaning that there has been thought put towards re-establishing the relationship and the downfalls that could occur from it.
"doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication"-meaning with the sepration, if the people don't grow and realize the mistake of breaking off the relatioship, than communication is lost forever.
"cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion"-meaning the silence and lack of communication decreases any compassion felt between the two.
"between supposed lovers, between supposed brothers"-lovers being a romantic relationship, brothers being a friendship.
i really think the references to religion and churches splitting up is a METAPHOR for a broken relationship