If you have an anti-Christian bias, then this song will be about Jesus to you. However, "get off your fuckin cross" refers to anyone who is playing the part of the martyr for the attention, of which there have been hundreds since Christ. Also, Christ was not surprised to hear his own eulogy, he prophesied it and talked about it frequently, and even stated it was his purpose to die. So, I don't think it's about Jesus. One thing I love about Tool is their songs make people think.. well some of them anyways... if all you can do is bash Christians that doesn't take a lot of brainpower, just repeat what you hear in the media. However, for those of us who have a truly open mind rather than an empty mind filled with nonsense... just hit play.
I've heard somewhere that it's about L. Ron Hubbard. Interesting and valid point you brought up about Jesus. If the song was about Jesus, it wouldn't make any sense.
I've heard somewhere that it's about L. Ron Hubbard. Interesting and valid point you brought up about Jesus. If the song was about Jesus, it wouldn't make any sense.
I created a songmemanings account stricly so that I could reply to this post. I could not agree more with your statements. Thank you for communicating this concept so well.
I created a songmemanings account stricly so that I could reply to this post. I could not agree more with your statements. Thank you for communicating this concept so well.
I think it's definitely about Jesus. He is dead? Christians claim he is the living god, and that he rose from the dead and is currently in heaven. I think the fact that he is telling him to die, is due to the fact that Christ himself said he would die. And that he said he would die for all of us. So if he doesn't die for us, that means he lied, and that he hasn't done what he said he would for us. Hence, "would you die for me? Don't you fucking lie."
And I'm sorry, this is...
I think it's definitely about Jesus. He is dead? Christians claim he is the living god, and that he rose from the dead and is currently in heaven. I think the fact that he is telling him to die, is due to the fact that Christ himself said he would die. And that he said he would die for all of us. So if he doesn't die for us, that means he lied, and that he hasn't done what he said he would for us. Hence, "would you die for me? Don't you fucking lie."
And I'm sorry, this is off subject, but we live in the fattest nation in the world, yet one of the only things that outnumbers our McDonalds is tax exempt churches... Come on, you're not oppressed. Last I saw, roughly 3/4 of Americans are Christians, too.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree. I don't think it's about Christ. That would be too simplistic. Tool is much to complex for that. Plus, the resurrection of Christ in no way implicates that he didn't die. It only means he didn't stay dead.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree. I don't think it's about Christ. That would be too simplistic. Tool is much to complex for that. Plus, the resurrection of Christ in no way implicates that he didn't die. It only means he didn't stay dead.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 It's not about Jesus, God, or anything to do with religion. Maynard is singing about the death of one's EGO. When you have a spiritual awakening you slowly kill your ego it's a very fucked up process and you actually do feel like you have died. "To ascend you must die" Ascend meaning Awakening or having Christ Consciousness. Still nothing to do with Jesus Christ Christ consciousness is a metaphor for awakening. But it's music so it really doesn't matter what the song means as long as it raises your vibration in a positive matter and makes yo...
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 It's not about Jesus, God, or anything to do with religion. Maynard is singing about the death of one's EGO. When you have a spiritual awakening you slowly kill your ego it's a very fucked up process and you actually do feel like you have died. "To ascend you must die" Ascend meaning Awakening or having Christ Consciousness. Still nothing to do with Jesus Christ Christ consciousness is a metaphor for awakening. But it's music so it really doesn't matter what the song means as long as it raises your vibration in a positive matter and makes yo have a positive outlook on life. Hail Satan.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree he's using the way Jesus Christ claimed He would die for everyone's sins, and then died as an example only. Any other martyrs who stand on soapboxes pointing fingers in the world after the Crucifixion of Christ claiming to be better or know better than everyone else especially if they fail to speak from the heart with humility as Jesus did, had better be prepared to put their money where their mouth is and make a similar sacrifice to the public they want to believe them. He's mocking them using Jesus as an ideal or example to...
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree he's using the way Jesus Christ claimed He would die for everyone's sins, and then died as an example only. Any other martyrs who stand on soapboxes pointing fingers in the world after the Crucifixion of Christ claiming to be better or know better than everyone else especially if they fail to speak from the heart with humility as Jesus did, had better be prepared to put their money where their mouth is and make a similar sacrifice to the public they want to believe them. He's mocking them using Jesus as an ideal or example to hold them up against, not mocking Jesus himself.
@Cani687 if really doesn't make sense to be about Jesus himself. Jesus knew He would die for our sins, prophesied it even. He was meant to do it and when the time came welcomed it knowingly. These specific lyrics I think show he's talking about someone who wants to be a martyr but falls short of Jesus's example:
"Not all martyrs see divinity but at least you tried" (Jesus saw divinity)
"Ranting and pointing his finger at everything but his heart" (Jesus did speak from the heart)
"Get off your fucking cross. We need the fucking space to nail the next fool martyr" (Jesus sadly didn't get off his cross, but people who martyr themselves pontify to the public putting themselves up on a cross. He's mocking them for not seeing their own public demise coming.)
So he's not mocking Jesus, rather using His example as an ideal to hold televangelists, politicians, public figures, to mockingly. Many of Tool's songs and themes are about calling out blatant and insidious hypocrisy.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 My Christian Friends hears this and flips and says "I don't listen to santan music. I laughed and attempted to explain this to him.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 My Christian Friends hears this and flips and says "I don't listen to santan music. I laughed and attempted to explain this to him.
Matt. 27 Verse 46
[46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matt. 27 Verse 46
[46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
If you have an anti-Christian bias, then this song will be about Jesus to you. However, "get off your fuckin cross" refers to anyone who is playing the part of the martyr for the attention, of which there have been hundreds since Christ. Also, Christ was not surprised to hear his own eulogy, he prophesied it and talked about it frequently, and even stated it was his purpose to die. So, I don't think it's about Jesus. One thing I love about Tool is their songs make people think.. well some of them anyways... if all you can do is bash Christians that doesn't take a lot of brainpower, just repeat what you hear in the media. However, for those of us who have a truly open mind rather than an empty mind filled with nonsense... just hit play.
I've heard somewhere that it's about L. Ron Hubbard. Interesting and valid point you brought up about Jesus. If the song was about Jesus, it wouldn't make any sense.
I've heard somewhere that it's about L. Ron Hubbard. Interesting and valid point you brought up about Jesus. If the song was about Jesus, it wouldn't make any sense.
I created a songmemanings account stricly so that I could reply to this post. I could not agree more with your statements. Thank you for communicating this concept so well.
I created a songmemanings account stricly so that I could reply to this post. I could not agree more with your statements. Thank you for communicating this concept so well.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2
@Christianscanbemetalheads2
I think it's definitely about Jesus. He is dead? Christians claim he is the living god, and that he rose from the dead and is currently in heaven. I think the fact that he is telling him to die, is due to the fact that Christ himself said he would die. And that he said he would die for all of us. So if he doesn't die for us, that means he lied, and that he hasn't done what he said he would for us. Hence, "would you die for me? Don't you fucking lie." And I'm sorry, this is...
I think it's definitely about Jesus. He is dead? Christians claim he is the living god, and that he rose from the dead and is currently in heaven. I think the fact that he is telling him to die, is due to the fact that Christ himself said he would die. And that he said he would die for all of us. So if he doesn't die for us, that means he lied, and that he hasn't done what he said he would for us. Hence, "would you die for me? Don't you fucking lie." And I'm sorry, this is off subject, but we live in the fattest nation in the world, yet one of the only things that outnumbers our McDonalds is tax exempt churches... Come on, you're not oppressed. Last I saw, roughly 3/4 of Americans are Christians, too.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree. I don't think it's about Christ. That would be too simplistic. Tool is much to complex for that. Plus, the resurrection of Christ in no way implicates that he didn't die. It only means he didn't stay dead.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree. I don't think it's about Christ. That would be too simplistic. Tool is much to complex for that. Plus, the resurrection of Christ in no way implicates that he didn't die. It only means he didn't stay dead.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 It's not about Jesus, God, or anything to do with religion. Maynard is singing about the death of one's EGO. When you have a spiritual awakening you slowly kill your ego it's a very fucked up process and you actually do feel like you have died. "To ascend you must die" Ascend meaning Awakening or having Christ Consciousness. Still nothing to do with Jesus Christ Christ consciousness is a metaphor for awakening. But it's music so it really doesn't matter what the song means as long as it raises your vibration in a positive matter and makes yo...
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 It's not about Jesus, God, or anything to do with religion. Maynard is singing about the death of one's EGO. When you have a spiritual awakening you slowly kill your ego it's a very fucked up process and you actually do feel like you have died. "To ascend you must die" Ascend meaning Awakening or having Christ Consciousness. Still nothing to do with Jesus Christ Christ consciousness is a metaphor for awakening. But it's music so it really doesn't matter what the song means as long as it raises your vibration in a positive matter and makes yo have a positive outlook on life. Hail Satan.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree he's using the way Jesus Christ claimed He would die for everyone's sins, and then died as an example only. Any other martyrs who stand on soapboxes pointing fingers in the world after the Crucifixion of Christ claiming to be better or know better than everyone else especially if they fail to speak from the heart with humility as Jesus did, had better be prepared to put their money where their mouth is and make a similar sacrifice to the public they want to believe them. He's mocking them using Jesus as an ideal or example to...
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 I agree he's using the way Jesus Christ claimed He would die for everyone's sins, and then died as an example only. Any other martyrs who stand on soapboxes pointing fingers in the world after the Crucifixion of Christ claiming to be better or know better than everyone else especially if they fail to speak from the heart with humility as Jesus did, had better be prepared to put their money where their mouth is and make a similar sacrifice to the public they want to believe them. He's mocking them using Jesus as an ideal or example to hold them up against, not mocking Jesus himself.
@Cani687 if really doesn't make sense to be about Jesus himself. Jesus knew He would die for our sins, prophesied it even. He was meant to do it and when the time came welcomed it knowingly. These specific lyrics I think show he's talking about someone who wants to be a martyr but falls short of Jesus's example:
"Not all martyrs see divinity but at least you tried" (Jesus saw divinity)
"Ranting and pointing his finger at everything but his heart" (Jesus did speak from the heart)
"Get off your fucking cross. We need the fucking space to nail the next fool martyr" (Jesus sadly didn't get off his cross, but people who martyr themselves pontify to the public putting themselves up on a cross. He's mocking them for not seeing their own public demise coming.)
So he's not mocking Jesus, rather using His example as an ideal to hold televangelists, politicians, public figures, to mockingly. Many of Tool's songs and themes are about calling out blatant and insidious hypocrisy.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 My Christian Friends hears this and flips and says "I don't listen to santan music. I laughed and attempted to explain this to him.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 My Christian Friends hears this and flips and says "I don't listen to santan music. I laughed and attempted to explain this to him.
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 you see and tell very well!
@Christianscanbemetalheads2 you see and tell very well!
@Christianscanbemetalheads2
@Christianscanbemetalheads2
"Christ was not surprised to hear his own eulogy"
"Christ was not surprised to hear his own eulogy"
Hmmmm.... Think he might have been. :)
Hmmmm.... Think he might have been. :)
Matt. 27 Verse 46 [46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matt. 27 Verse 46 [46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?