I agree that the song is about death.
In my mind, when I hear the song I think of a lone Iraqi Insurgent who "Already knows how it will end", and is preparing to die for Allah, either by suicide belt, or as a defender of Fallujah.
you think of someone who is about to murder someone else, in the false belief that their god wants them to do that??
insurgent??..no..murderer of innocents i would agree with...and to associate this meaningfull song with something like that ..in my opinion..is just wrong. This song should never be thought of in the same lifetime with something like that. Sorry for ranting, just my opinion
you think of someone who is about to murder someone else, in the false belief that their god wants them to do that??
insurgent??..no..murderer of innocents i would agree with...and to associate this meaningfull song with something like that ..in my opinion..is just wrong. This song should never be thought of in the same lifetime with something like that. Sorry for ranting, just my opinion
No iraqi insurgent is dying for god.
they are committing suicide, and murder in a most cowardly fashion which NO god embraces. you are a pathetic and ignorant human being, i truly hope you arent an American citizen, although we have allowances in free speech for such terrible statements.
Go keep 'em company, and catch a couple 5.56mm NATO rounds.
No iraqi insurgent is dying for god.
they are committing suicide, and murder in a most cowardly fashion which NO god embraces. you are a pathetic and ignorant human being, i truly hope you arent an American citizen, although we have allowances in free speech for such terrible statements.
Go keep 'em company, and catch a couple 5.56mm NATO rounds.
"Muslims do believe they are dying for the greater good of their country/people/god, and regardless of what you say or think, it's their belief" - don't assume all Muslims believe these suicide bombers are dying for any good cause.
Ask any educated moderate muslim what he thinks of a suicide bomber and I'm sure he'll tell you it is a corruption of their faith.
There is NO justification or glory in a suicide bomber's or any terrorist's path - only twisted anger and hatred for those they simplistically blame for all their problems. I don't believe such a person capable of...
"Muslims do believe they are dying for the greater good of their country/people/god, and regardless of what you say or think, it's their belief" - don't assume all Muslims believe these suicide bombers are dying for any good cause.
Ask any educated moderate muslim what he thinks of a suicide bomber and I'm sure he'll tell you it is a corruption of their faith.
There is NO justification or glory in a suicide bomber's or any terrorist's path - only twisted anger and hatred for those they simplistically blame for all their problems. I don't believe such a person capable of such beautiful sentiments expressed in this song, only hatred of those they are about to kill.
This song, i believe is about someone searching for faith as imminent death approaches. The death will probably be a sacrifice to protect the innocent, not kill the innocent. I'm thinking more along the lines of Gary Cooper in High Noon - facing impossible odds for what you believe to be right. The protagonist in this song would stand between a suicide bomber and his intended victims even though he knew he would be killed.
When I read that I had to sign up and respond. Your comparison is so wrong, SO very wrong. First of all...since allah has no body and has no face, a devout muslim can never imagine seeing the face of God. That is purely a Christian concept. They have whole discussion boards about it.
When I read that I had to sign up and respond. Your comparison is so wrong, SO very wrong. First of all...since allah has no body and has no face, a devout muslim can never imagine seeing the face of God. That is purely a Christian concept. They have whole discussion boards about it.
Second...this is a song about bravery...and there is a certain cowardice to blowing yourself up, especially suicide bombers who are killing innocent children, or use innocent children.
Second...this is a song about bravery...and there is a certain cowardice to blowing yourself up, especially suicide bombers who are killing innocent children, or use innocent children.
Third, the song mentions being in need. Muslims in muslim countries do not experience the need...
Third, the song mentions being in need. Muslims in muslim countries do not experience the need that nonmuslims do since muslims dhimmify all nonmuslims. To live in dhimmitude is to be forced into poverty. My nephew spent time in Iraq and other muslim countries and he observed that no matter the circumstance, some muslims always seemed to find time to harass and bully the local Christians. This is most stark among Palestinians. Palestinian muslims are very very cruel to Palestinian Christians.
When Israel pulled out of Bethlehem in 1993 Christians made up 80% of the population; By 2000 it was 40%; 2008- 20%.
That is just a fact of life for Christians in muslims countries where sharia is the rule. It's a FACT that Christians are leaving the middle east at an unprecedented rate. There are less then 100,000 Christians left in Iraq.
I can not believe the ignorance of people about islam.
fourth..the battle of Fallujah ...WOah! My nephew was in that battle...he lost many friends in that battle fighting an enemy who had absolutely NO honor, no scruples in using women and children as shields.
When I hear this song, I think of someone who is facing persecution like the people of good faith, Christians yes since they are a majority of the worlds religions, but also those of minority religions like Buddhists and Jews in muslim or communist countries who face terrible consequences for just worshiping in the way they believe God is leading them to worship, yet do so anyway.
I've read about many religions and yes, I am a christian, but that doesn't mean I can't see the value of other belief systems and respect them. I make it my business to understand why the buddhist down the street does what he/she does, or the wiccan does what he/she does, or the jew...I read about each. None of these groups are blowing anyone up, yet they all face persecution in a sharia world right along side the Christian.
I have read the koran, I have read many of the hadiths, I have visited forums for muslims and 'listened' to their discussions...and after 7 years of study, I still find nothing redeeming about islam. NOTHING. In fact them more I know, the more I am convinced of it's demonic origins.
Islam is a religion made up by an insane,demonic intelligence that mixed up several Christian and Jewish heresies of the time, put a cherry on top and called it new. It is the ultimate plausible lie.
Because of islam, as a Christian, I have taken to teaching my children to say the Catholic Angelous 3 times a day..it is a prayer that memorializes the moment that the Archangel Gabriel appeared to Mary to announce that she will be the Holy Mother of God who will save the world. This is to help them remember that Gabriel appeared to Mary, never mohammad. Who ever appeared to him was a fallen angel filled with lies.
But I digress...
This song is about someone 'putting the bible to the test'...redemptive suffering is a very Christian notion, and this song is all about redemptive suffering.
To each his own. I think what's best about this song is that it can mean something totally different for each person. And the imagery evoked from the song is...I hope...will not be the same for everyone.
To each his own. I think what's best about this song is that it can mean something totally different for each person. And the imagery evoked from the song is...I hope...will not be the same for everyone.
I agree that the song is about death. In my mind, when I hear the song I think of a lone Iraqi Insurgent who "Already knows how it will end", and is preparing to die for Allah, either by suicide belt, or as a defender of Fallujah.
you think of someone who is about to murder someone else, in the false belief that their god wants them to do that?? insurgent??..no..murderer of innocents i would agree with...and to associate this meaningfull song with something like that ..in my opinion..is just wrong. This song should never be thought of in the same lifetime with something like that. Sorry for ranting, just my opinion
you think of someone who is about to murder someone else, in the false belief that their god wants them to do that?? insurgent??..no..murderer of innocents i would agree with...and to associate this meaningfull song with something like that ..in my opinion..is just wrong. This song should never be thought of in the same lifetime with something like that. Sorry for ranting, just my opinion
No iraqi insurgent is dying for god. they are committing suicide, and murder in a most cowardly fashion which NO god embraces. you are a pathetic and ignorant human being, i truly hope you arent an American citizen, although we have allowances in free speech for such terrible statements. Go keep 'em company, and catch a couple 5.56mm NATO rounds.
No iraqi insurgent is dying for god. they are committing suicide, and murder in a most cowardly fashion which NO god embraces. you are a pathetic and ignorant human being, i truly hope you arent an American citizen, although we have allowances in free speech for such terrible statements. Go keep 'em company, and catch a couple 5.56mm NATO rounds.
Wow, you guys need to chill the heck out.
Wow, you guys need to chill the heck out.
Muslims do believe they are dying for the greater good of their country/people/god, and regardless of what you say or think, it's their belief.
Muslims do believe they are dying for the greater good of their country/people/god, and regardless of what you say or think, it's their belief.
I am from America, and I am antireligious, but I still UNDERSTAND when someone has religious BELIEFS, albeit martyrdom.
I am from America, and I am antireligious, but I still UNDERSTAND when someone has religious BELIEFS, albeit martyrdom.
thank you Nerolt... if you hadn't of said it... I would have.
thank you Nerolt... if you hadn't of said it... I would have.
"Muslims do believe they are dying for the greater good of their country/people/god, and regardless of what you say or think, it's their belief" - don't assume all Muslims believe these suicide bombers are dying for any good cause. Ask any educated moderate muslim what he thinks of a suicide bomber and I'm sure he'll tell you it is a corruption of their faith. There is NO justification or glory in a suicide bomber's or any terrorist's path - only twisted anger and hatred for those they simplistically blame for all their problems. I don't believe such a person capable of...
"Muslims do believe they are dying for the greater good of their country/people/god, and regardless of what you say or think, it's their belief" - don't assume all Muslims believe these suicide bombers are dying for any good cause. Ask any educated moderate muslim what he thinks of a suicide bomber and I'm sure he'll tell you it is a corruption of their faith. There is NO justification or glory in a suicide bomber's or any terrorist's path - only twisted anger and hatred for those they simplistically blame for all their problems. I don't believe such a person capable of such beautiful sentiments expressed in this song, only hatred of those they are about to kill.
This song, i believe is about someone searching for faith as imminent death approaches. The death will probably be a sacrifice to protect the innocent, not kill the innocent. I'm thinking more along the lines of Gary Cooper in High Noon - facing impossible odds for what you believe to be right. The protagonist in this song would stand between a suicide bomber and his intended victims even though he knew he would be killed.
When I read that I had to sign up and respond. Your comparison is so wrong, SO very wrong. First of all...since allah has no body and has no face, a devout muslim can never imagine seeing the face of God. That is purely a Christian concept. They have whole discussion boards about it.
When I read that I had to sign up and respond. Your comparison is so wrong, SO very wrong. First of all...since allah has no body and has no face, a devout muslim can never imagine seeing the face of God. That is purely a Christian concept. They have whole discussion boards about it.
Second...this is a song about bravery...and there is a certain cowardice to blowing yourself up, especially suicide bombers who are killing innocent children, or use innocent children.
Second...this is a song about bravery...and there is a certain cowardice to blowing yourself up, especially suicide bombers who are killing innocent children, or use innocent children.
Third, the song mentions being in need. Muslims in muslim countries do not experience the need...
Third, the song mentions being in need. Muslims in muslim countries do not experience the need that nonmuslims do since muslims dhimmify all nonmuslims. To live in dhimmitude is to be forced into poverty. My nephew spent time in Iraq and other muslim countries and he observed that no matter the circumstance, some muslims always seemed to find time to harass and bully the local Christians. This is most stark among Palestinians. Palestinian muslims are very very cruel to Palestinian Christians. When Israel pulled out of Bethlehem in 1993 Christians made up 80% of the population; By 2000 it was 40%; 2008- 20%.
http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=3363 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023936.php http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=39354 to name a few links regarding this issue.
That is just a fact of life for Christians in muslims countries where sharia is the rule. It's a FACT that Christians are leaving the middle east at an unprecedented rate. There are less then 100,000 Christians left in Iraq.
I can not believe the ignorance of people about islam.
fourth..the battle of Fallujah ...WOah! My nephew was in that battle...he lost many friends in that battle fighting an enemy who had absolutely NO honor, no scruples in using women and children as shields.
When I hear this song, I think of someone who is facing persecution like the people of good faith, Christians yes since they are a majority of the worlds religions, but also those of minority religions like Buddhists and Jews in muslim or communist countries who face terrible consequences for just worshiping in the way they believe God is leading them to worship, yet do so anyway.
I've read about many religions and yes, I am a christian, but that doesn't mean I can't see the value of other belief systems and respect them. I make it my business to understand why the buddhist down the street does what he/she does, or the wiccan does what he/she does, or the jew...I read about each. None of these groups are blowing anyone up, yet they all face persecution in a sharia world right along side the Christian.
I have read the koran, I have read many of the hadiths, I have visited forums for muslims and 'listened' to their discussions...and after 7 years of study, I still find nothing redeeming about islam. NOTHING. In fact them more I know, the more I am convinced of it's demonic origins. Islam is a religion made up by an insane,demonic intelligence that mixed up several Christian and Jewish heresies of the time, put a cherry on top and called it new. It is the ultimate plausible lie.
Because of islam, as a Christian, I have taken to teaching my children to say the Catholic Angelous 3 times a day..it is a prayer that memorializes the moment that the Archangel Gabriel appeared to Mary to announce that she will be the Holy Mother of God who will save the world. This is to help them remember that Gabriel appeared to Mary, never mohammad. Who ever appeared to him was a fallen angel filled with lies.
But I digress... This song is about someone 'putting the bible to the test'...redemptive suffering is a very Christian notion, and this song is all about redemptive suffering.
dina
To each his own. I think what's best about this song is that it can mean something totally different for each person. And the imagery evoked from the song is...I hope...will not be the same for everyone.
To each his own. I think what's best about this song is that it can mean something totally different for each person. And the imagery evoked from the song is...I hope...will not be the same for everyone.
You can probably rule that out as soon as he mentions the person is holding a Bible.
You can probably rule that out as soon as he mentions the person is holding a Bible.
@Burke888 praise allah his worship!!!
@Burke888 praise allah his worship!!!