this is song is a metaphor to desires in human life, the way we perceive it and how it is perceived if we were standing outside of our lives. There's a song called Coma Black, which im still trying to figure out the meaning behind it, but i think both songs gets out the same message: as much we crave to fulfill our desires and dreams and goals, (which summarizes the "point of life"), its simply impossible to truly satisfy ur desires, you always want more. think about the last time u had sex or masturbated, u go through all the effort just to satisfy ur desire of getting an orgasm, but when it really comes, its very short and afterwards its not as satisfying, well think about all the other desires u crave to achieve, maybe getting an A in clase? well wen u do get an A, u realize it doesnt feel as good as u thot and u want more, u want to get A the next time, then the next time ur report card comes, its simply not enough. well then u might argue that the deepest human desire is to be happy, well if u relate the metaphor in this song to fulfulling ur desire to be happy (survive), its like saying our deepest desire is to survive, but while we are, we realize being alive isnt enough, we want more, this is why we have all the other goals and desires, but relate it back u can never be happy, as long as we are in this supposed reality world, and being alive. relating back to the song, life is about counting and waiting and suffering while waiting for this supposed "light" that ull never get, and wen u get it, it can burn u and blind u and give u all the other things u dont expect and dont neccessarily want.
hell of a good interpretation! just seen a concert yesterday, which wasnt really like a concert but like a weird play in a huge theatre while each word could mean so many different things which makes it hard to find just one really good interpretation for yourself. thanks for that! ah by the way...they refer to that old nazi shit a lot in their lyrics and their show and all the stage props (stage looked like a bunker)...so the sun might stand for the swastika...symbol for sun in some old religions. thatd be a fine antagonism between the sun we...
hell of a good interpretation! just seen a concert yesterday, which wasnt really like a concert but like a weird play in a huge theatre while each word could mean so many different things which makes it hard to find just one really good interpretation for yourself. thanks for that! ah by the way...they refer to that old nazi shit a lot in their lyrics and their show and all the stage props (stage looked like a bunker)...so the sun might stand for the swastika...symbol for sun in some old religions. thatd be a fine antagonism between the sun we all live of and the dark death linked to hitlers governance. not really an interpretation but its an idea i got by the live perfomance.
@sl8734 Good points. Yeah, I think what you're describing (the way I understood it) is related to concepts of existentialism and how we ascribe/assign meaning to (for argument's sake) otherwise meaningless things in order to...well, give our lives "meaning". As a possible example, lorne from song facts wrote "In the music video, the band members play the 7 Dwarves. They mine gold, which Snow White then crushes up and snorts like cocaine - at the end of the video she overdoses." ... which, to me, is a lot like what you're saying, where the 7 dwarves (representing all of...
@sl8734 Good points. Yeah, I think what you're describing (the way I understood it) is related to concepts of existentialism and how we ascribe/assign meaning to (for argument's sake) otherwise meaningless things in order to...well, give our lives "meaning". As a possible example, lorne from song facts wrote "In the music video, the band members play the 7 Dwarves. They mine gold, which Snow White then crushes up and snorts like cocaine - at the end of the video she overdoses." ... which, to me, is a lot like what you're saying, where the 7 dwarves (representing all of us, in a sense) aspire to / work hard for something ...that, ultimately sucks all our resources (aka Nietzsche's "will of power") and the goal ends up being something we were terribly wrong about. Lorne also mentions "At one point, the band thought of making a video, in which they'd play the crew of the Enola Gay dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. First there would have been the refrain ("Hier kommt die Sonne...") and then they'd show the explosion. They also wanted to show how after years the crew committed suicide, as they were mentally broken when they realized what they had done." Reading your insightful take, one can't help but think back to the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche: From wiki: "Some prominent elements of his philosophy include his radical critique of truth in favor of perspectivism; his genealogical critique of religion and Christian morality, and his related theory of master–slave morality; his aesthetic affirmation of existence in response to the "death of God" and the profound crisis of nihilism; his notion of the Apollonian and Dionysian; and his characterization of the human subject as the expression of competing wills, collectively understood as the will to power." {sic: footnotes omitted}.
Nihilism (ibid), "is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism may also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or reality does not actually exist.
The term is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws. Movements such as futurism and deconstruction, among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic"."
So, in short, I think you hit it on the head. And hope my 2 cents can afford the cherry on top.
this is song is a metaphor to desires in human life, the way we perceive it and how it is perceived if we were standing outside of our lives. There's a song called Coma Black, which im still trying to figure out the meaning behind it, but i think both songs gets out the same message: as much we crave to fulfill our desires and dreams and goals, (which summarizes the "point of life"), its simply impossible to truly satisfy ur desires, you always want more. think about the last time u had sex or masturbated, u go through all the effort just to satisfy ur desire of getting an orgasm, but when it really comes, its very short and afterwards its not as satisfying, well think about all the other desires u crave to achieve, maybe getting an A in clase? well wen u do get an A, u realize it doesnt feel as good as u thot and u want more, u want to get A the next time, then the next time ur report card comes, its simply not enough. well then u might argue that the deepest human desire is to be happy, well if u relate the metaphor in this song to fulfulling ur desire to be happy (survive), its like saying our deepest desire is to survive, but while we are, we realize being alive isnt enough, we want more, this is why we have all the other goals and desires, but relate it back u can never be happy, as long as we are in this supposed reality world, and being alive. relating back to the song, life is about counting and waiting and suffering while waiting for this supposed "light" that ull never get, and wen u get it, it can burn u and blind u and give u all the other things u dont expect and dont neccessarily want.
hell of a good interpretation! just seen a concert yesterday, which wasnt really like a concert but like a weird play in a huge theatre while each word could mean so many different things which makes it hard to find just one really good interpretation for yourself. thanks for that! ah by the way...they refer to that old nazi shit a lot in their lyrics and their show and all the stage props (stage looked like a bunker)...so the sun might stand for the swastika...symbol for sun in some old religions. thatd be a fine antagonism between the sun we...
hell of a good interpretation! just seen a concert yesterday, which wasnt really like a concert but like a weird play in a huge theatre while each word could mean so many different things which makes it hard to find just one really good interpretation for yourself. thanks for that! ah by the way...they refer to that old nazi shit a lot in their lyrics and their show and all the stage props (stage looked like a bunker)...so the sun might stand for the swastika...symbol for sun in some old religions. thatd be a fine antagonism between the sun we all live of and the dark death linked to hitlers governance. not really an interpretation but its an idea i got by the live perfomance.
wherever you go there you are
wherever you go there you are
@sl8734 Good points. Yeah, I think what you're describing (the way I understood it) is related to concepts of existentialism and how we ascribe/assign meaning to (for argument's sake) otherwise meaningless things in order to...well, give our lives "meaning". As a possible example, lorne from song facts wrote "In the music video, the band members play the 7 Dwarves. They mine gold, which Snow White then crushes up and snorts like cocaine - at the end of the video she overdoses." ... which, to me, is a lot like what you're saying, where the 7 dwarves (representing all of...
@sl8734 Good points. Yeah, I think what you're describing (the way I understood it) is related to concepts of existentialism and how we ascribe/assign meaning to (for argument's sake) otherwise meaningless things in order to...well, give our lives "meaning". As a possible example, lorne from song facts wrote "In the music video, the band members play the 7 Dwarves. They mine gold, which Snow White then crushes up and snorts like cocaine - at the end of the video she overdoses." ... which, to me, is a lot like what you're saying, where the 7 dwarves (representing all of us, in a sense) aspire to / work hard for something ...that, ultimately sucks all our resources (aka Nietzsche's "will of power") and the goal ends up being something we were terribly wrong about. Lorne also mentions "At one point, the band thought of making a video, in which they'd play the crew of the Enola Gay dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. First there would have been the refrain ("Hier kommt die Sonne...") and then they'd show the explosion. They also wanted to show how after years the crew committed suicide, as they were mentally broken when they realized what they had done." Reading your insightful take, one can't help but think back to the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche: From wiki: "Some prominent elements of his philosophy include his radical critique of truth in favor of perspectivism; his genealogical critique of religion and Christian morality, and his related theory of master–slave morality; his aesthetic affirmation of existence in response to the "death of God" and the profound crisis of nihilism; his notion of the Apollonian and Dionysian; and his characterization of the human subject as the expression of competing wills, collectively understood as the will to power." {sic: footnotes omitted}.
Nihilism (ibid), "is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism may also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or reality does not actually exist.
The term is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws. Movements such as futurism and deconstruction, among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic"."
So, in short, I think you hit it on the head. And hope my 2 cents can afford the cherry on top.
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