this is song is a metaphor to desires in human life, the way we perceive it and how it is perceived if we were standing outside of our lives. There's a song called Coma Black, which im still trying to figure out the meaning behind it, but i think both songs gets out the same message: as much we crave to fulfill our desires and dreams and goals, (which summarizes the "point of life"), its simply impossible to truly satisfy ur desires, you always want more. think about the last time u had sex or masturbated, u go through all the effort just to satisfy ur desire of getting an orgasm, but when it really comes, its very short and afterwards its not as satisfying, well think about all the other desires u crave to achieve, maybe getting an A in clase? well wen u do get an A, u realize it doesnt feel as good as u thot and u want more, u want to get A the next time, then the next time ur report card comes, its simply not enough. well then u might argue that the deepest human desire is to be happy, well if u relate the metaphor in this song to fulfulling ur desire to be happy (survive), its like saying our deepest desire is to survive, but while we are, we realize being alive isnt enough, we want more, this is why we have all the other goals and desires, but relate it back u can never be happy, as long as we are in this supposed reality world, and being alive. relating back to the song, life is about counting and waiting and suffering while waiting for this supposed "light" that ull never get, and wen u get it, it can burn u and blind u and give u all the other things u dont expect and dont neccessarily want.
hell of a good interpretation! just seen a concert yesterday, which wasnt really like a concert but like a weird play in a huge theatre while each word could mean so many different things which makes it hard to find just one really good interpretation for yourself. thanks for that! ah by the way...they refer to that old nazi shit a lot in their lyrics and their show and all the stage props (stage looked like a bunker)...so the sun might stand for the swastika...symbol for sun in some old religions. thatd be a fine antagonism between the sun we...
hell of a good interpretation! just seen a concert yesterday, which wasnt really like a concert but like a weird play in a huge theatre while each word could mean so many different things which makes it hard to find just one really good interpretation for yourself. thanks for that! ah by the way...they refer to that old nazi shit a lot in their lyrics and their show and all the stage props (stage looked like a bunker)...so the sun might stand for the swastika...symbol for sun in some old religions. thatd be a fine antagonism between the sun we all live of and the dark death linked to hitlers governance. not really an interpretation but its an idea i got by the live perfomance.
wherever you go there you are
wherever you go there you are
@sl8734 Good points. Yeah, I think what you're describing (the way I understood it) is related to concepts of existentialism and how we ascribe/assign meaning to (for argument's sake) otherwise meaningless things in order to...well, give our lives "meaning". As a possible example, lorne from song facts wrote "In the music video, the band members play the 7 Dwarves. They mine gold, which Snow White then crushes up and snorts like cocaine - at the end of the video she overdoses." ... which, to me, is a lot like what you're saying, where the 7 dwarves (representing all of...
@sl8734 Good points. Yeah, I think what you're describing (the way I understood it) is related to concepts of existentialism and how we ascribe/assign meaning to (for argument's sake) otherwise meaningless things in order to...well, give our lives "meaning". As a possible example, lorne from song facts wrote "In the music video, the band members play the 7 Dwarves. They mine gold, which Snow White then crushes up and snorts like cocaine - at the end of the video she overdoses." ... which, to me, is a lot like what you're saying, where the 7 dwarves (representing all of us, in a sense) aspire to / work hard for something ...that, ultimately sucks all our resources (aka Nietzsche's "will of power") and the goal ends up being something we were terribly wrong about. Lorne also mentions "At one point, the band thought of making a video, in which they'd play the crew of the Enola Gay dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. First there would have been the refrain ("Hier kommt die Sonne...") and then they'd show the explosion. They also wanted to show how after years the crew committed suicide, as they were mentally broken when they realized what they had done." Reading your insightful take, one can't help but think back to the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche: From wiki: "Some prominent elements of his philosophy include his radical critique of truth in favor of perspectivism; his genealogical critique of religion and Christian morality, and his related theory of master–slave morality; his aesthetic affirmation of existence in response to the "death of God" and the profound crisis of nihilism; his notion of the Apollonian and Dionysian; and his characterization of the human subject as the expression of competing wills, collectively understood as the will to power." {sic: footnotes omitted}.
Nihilism (ibid), "is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism may also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or reality does not actually exist.
The term is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws. Movements such as futurism and deconstruction, among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic"."
So, in short, I think you hit it on the head. And hope my 2 cents can afford the cherry on top.
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In the Lichtspeilhaus DVD, it shows a behind the scenes look at the making of the video for this song. While it does have drug influences in it (where Snow White not only snorts the grounded gold the dwarves mine for her like cocaine, but also overdoses on it and dies while bathing), some of the band say that the song was originally written for a boxer. Till describes that his ideal video interpretation was to show a boxer walking slowly out of the hall in his robe, facing the crowd and the lights, while the line "Hier kommt die Sonne" plays - the boxer is the sun, the winner, the wanted.
@sunshine_arakhan Spot on. I've seen that as well. And while the videos often correlate to the songs themselves, they just as often do not.
@sunshine_arakhan Spot on. I've seen that as well. And while the videos often correlate to the songs themselves, they just as often do not.
While one of their best videos ever it's not one that hews close to the lyrics. If that were not said I would point out that "Sun" and "sonne" end with the same sound as heroin. Depending on your accent. New Order wrote a song called "True Faith" where "Morning Sun" replaces "Heroin" for radio.
While one of their best videos ever it's not one that hews close to the lyrics. If that were not said I would point out that "Sun" and "sonne" end with the same sound as heroin. Depending on your accent. New Order wrote a song called "True Faith" where "Morning Sun" replaces "Heroin" for radio.
It works either was as for an addict, taking that...
It works either was as for an addict, taking that hit brings on the warmth of happiness one associates with the Sun. Although in a much darker way.
After watching the video, it came off to me as they were giving her the drug, & the girl just wanted more & more. When the one guy gave her the gold, she didn't look satisfied, because she wanted more. & So they worked for her, & she controlled them. At the part at the table they stare out of the corner of their eye, as if to interpret that they knew what was going on the whole time, but didn't act on it to try to help her. IDK, it just made me think of people serving her, & she was never satisfied, then she finally dies.
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Dieser Song ist die Scheisse! Ein vom besten
This song is so amazing and eerie, it seems like no interpretation suits it better than that it's about the bombing of Hiroshima; the verses are from the perspective of the Enola Gay flight crew. At the very end, you can almost see the shadows on the pavement... it's creepy. The line "Und wird nie vom Himmel fallen" also notes that Hiroshima represents the dawn of the atomic age; the threat of nuclear war will thus hang ever-present over future world relations, and "never fall" or cease to exist. It also fits with the military themes in much of Mutter, though it's something to ponder as to why Links 2-3-4 (which is all about portraying the soldier as a noble character) leads directly into this song.
adding to that, notice it never says "zehn" the song never actually counted to ten, (except wen it says and the world counts TO ten) but in the refrains it always end in acht, neun. and in the begining summarizes wat i said in my earlier post by counting to neun, AUS, NOT zehn.
its important to note that in the first refrain its "kann euch blenden" and the second is "kann dich blenden" the first is talking about all of you, the second one is directed only at the person whos already got the sun in his hands. thot this might signify something i cannot recall at this moment.
The song was written as the theme song for a boxer. The reason that they're counting to ten is because if you're on the ground for ten seconds you're out; rather than actually saying ten they just skip to "out." One. Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. Seven. Eight. Nine. Out. A lot of their songs have deep meaning, but as this was originally written for a boxer it's obviously about a boxer. I wouldn't advise trying to over-analyze this one.
I can agree with that logic and wouldn't argue that you're right however they managed to squeeze some depth into the song by adding that video. The many ways to interpret art eh?
I can agree with that logic and wouldn't argue that you're right however they managed to squeeze some depth into the song by adding that video. The many ways to interpret art eh?
I'm probably not going to get a reply or whatever to this, but here it is...
Are you insane werumm?!!!! I felt insulted that someone would do that to such a great song when I heard it! Yes, Sonne is a great song, and yes, it is sung in German, but that doesn't give anyone the right to take its melody and replace the words that make it sound all Nazi! Then again, I was pretty upset when someone at work told me they were Nazis, because I knew they weren't, so I may be overreacting. As for the song, like I said earlier, it is hands down one of Rammstein's best, along with Rosenrot, Speiluhr, Sehnsucht, Du hast, Benzin, and a whole lot of others ^_^!
I'd say (to me anyways) this song is about the sun, that gives them life, it is the "brightest star of all" and a glorious thing, but it sounds to me like it is about the earth colliding with the sun "it wont set tonight" and they can feel it burning on them, though it could also be about the atomic bomb in that sense