Blurred Lines

@9DennyJ I don't agree with the OP's interpretation in regards to rape, but in regards to your question. I'd suggest that @RoseTeaCup1216 is referring to the culture in most societies (still today) the victims of rape are not likely to come forward and report it. That is because some have the fear that "they were asking for it", or maybe they doubt if they did send the wrong messages (and how that would be perceived by society) etc. Of course there are many other reasons why rape victims might not report the crimes, but the above seems to be what...

@9DennyJ I don't agree with the OP's interpretation in regards to rape, but in regards to your question. I'd suggest that @RoseTeaCup1216 is referring to the culture in most societies (still today) the victims of rape are not likely to come forward and report it. That is because some have the fear that "they were asking for it", or maybe they doubt if they did send the wrong messages (and how that would be perceived by society) etc. Of course there are many other reasons why rape victims might not report the crimes, but the above seems to be what the OP is suggesting.

Does the song objectify women? Yes. Does portraying women as objects deter victims from reporting crimes? Maybe.

What I meant by "rape culture" is a culture in which the victim is blamed. Yes, it's possible it may deter reports of rape but that was not the point. The point is when I crime is committed against a person and we first question what that person did to deserve it....blaming the victim, rather than the criminal. Here's a cut and paste definition from the net....

What I meant by "rape culture" is a culture in which the victim is blamed. Yes, it's possible it may deter reports of rape but that was not the point. The point is when I crime is committed against a person and we first question what that person did to deserve it....blaming the victim, rather than the criminal. Here's a cut and paste definition from the net....

What is the “Rape Culture?”

What is the “Rape Culture?”

Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and...

Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. Rape culture is perpetuated through the use of misogynistic language, the objectification of women’s bodies, and the glamorization of sexual violence, thereby creating a society that disregards women’s rights and safety.

Rape Culture affects every woman. The rape of one woman is a degradation, terror, and limitation to all women. Most women and girls limit their behavior because of the existence of rape. Most women and girls live in fear of rape. Men, in general, do not. That’s how rape functions as a powerful means by which the whole female population is held in a subordinate position to the whole male population, even though many men don’t rape, and many women are never victims of rape. This cycle of fear is the legacy of Rape Culture. Examples of Rape Culture:

e>Blaming the victim (“She asked for it!”) Trivializing sexual assault (“Boys will be boys!”) Sexually explicit jokes Tolerance of sexual harassment Inflating false rape report statistics Publicly scrutinizing a victim’s dress, mental state, motives, and history Gratuitous gendered violence in movies and television Defining “manhood” as dominant and sexually aggressive Defining “womanhood” as submissive and sexually passive Pressure on men to “score” Pressure on women to not appear “cold” Assuming only promiscuous women get raped Assuming that men don’t get raped or that only “weak” men get raped Refusing to take rape accusations seriously Teaching women to avoid getting raped instead of teaching men not to rape

@RoseTeaCup1216 I think you're wrong. The Name of the song and the fact that the narrator says he can't get or give clear signs means he is aware that he doen't have consent yet: "I hate these blurred lines!" the reading is not clear for the narrator, he doen't know if what he wants is possible. "But you're a good girl!" goes in contrast with what he fantasizes. "The way you grab me, Must wanna get nasty" here he suspects she is interested in the same. "Go ahead, get at me" this part indicates he is waiting for consent....

@RoseTeaCup1216 I think you're wrong. The Name of the song and the fact that the narrator says he can't get or give clear signs means he is aware that he doen't have consent yet: "I hate these blurred lines!" the reading is not clear for the narrator, he doen't know if what he wants is possible. "But you're a good girl!" goes in contrast with what he fantasizes. "The way you grab me, Must wanna get nasty" here he suspects she is interested in the same. "Go ahead, get at me" this part indicates he is waiting for consent.

And there is the part that makes it clear he doesn't know anything for sure: "If you can't hear, what I'm tryna say If you can't read, from the same page Maybe I'm going deaf Maybe I'm going blind Maybe I'm out of my mind"

... Having said all of that, I do think it does promote a sexually aggressive culture, even if not intentionally. Many can understand the lyrics as an endorsement for men being aggressive at nightclubs, especially when women dance and enjoy it (they might not be thinking about the message at all while doing so, but horny men might). Rapy men can also understand it as an endorsement if they don't pay much attention. So, I think Thicke was not careful enough. He should have put a lot more emphasis in the fact that he is being both delusional and realistic at the same time, that he doesn't know what's going on and that both things are possible but he needs a series of signs and consents to get to what he fantasizes. I think the perfect ending would have been him getting the girl.

My wife loves the line "I know you want it". Use it all the time when we are getting into it. He response isn't punching me and claiming harrassment it is more like "fuck yea I do".

My wife loves the line "I know you want it". Use it all the time when we are getting into it. He response isn't punching me and claiming harrassment it is more like "fuck yea I do".

Which is kind of the key with women unfortunately. If women do in fact want it then the line is very likely going to be a turn on but if she doesn't want it then it is suddenly him telling her what she wants and the she will want it one way or another. This is ridiculous.

Which is kind of the key with women unfortunately. If women do in fact want it then the line is very likely going to be a turn on but if she doesn't want it then it is suddenly him telling her what she wants and the she will want it one way or another. This is ridiculous.

I was...

I was hanging out with a few guys the other night and offered my buddy a beer. He said no and my response was oh come on I know you want it. Same sentence but COMPLETELY different meaning. Would you like to start banning sentences? Do you understand the word context? Do you understand how the context of a paragraph can drastically affect a sentence? It goes for any analysis. You have no business reviewing one paragraph of a novel if you haven't read all the others.

TatTvamAsi, "If she "wants it", then there wouldn't be any blurred lines." Exactly! Very well put!! I have been hit on, when out with my girlfriends, and told the guy that it was a Girls' Night Out with my friends and I am married and not interested. He replied, "Then why are you here?!" as if the only reason people go out is to hook up. That was obviously why HE goes out. Projection! We have even resorted to gay bars to avoid creepers! Gay men understand we are out to dance and have fun because they are not into us any more...

TatTvamAsi, "If she "wants it", then there wouldn't be any blurred lines." Exactly! Very well put!! I have been hit on, when out with my girlfriends, and told the guy that it was a Girls' Night Out with my friends and I am married and not interested. He replied, "Then why are you here?!" as if the only reason people go out is to hook up. That was obviously why HE goes out. Projection! We have even resorted to gay bars to avoid creepers! Gay men understand we are out to dance and have fun because they are not into us any more than we are into them.