This is a song is a catchy tune that contributes to our rape culture. It's about a man who is interested in a woman, already in a relationship, yet he is convinced that she's making a mistake and that deep-down she prefers to be with him. He also refers to her as an "animal", which is what he has reduced her to in his mind. This fella is projecting HIS desire onto her. He wants her so he sees anything and everything as a "sign" that she wants him. The creepiest line is "I know you want it". Rapists and pedophiles often use this line about their victims.."They wanted it." If someone says "No", take her or his word for it. The original video has beautiful young women in flesh-toned g-strings dancing around fully-clothed men. Men already have a physical advantage over women and this makes the young women seems even more vulnerable. I guess these guys aren't as confident or they'd even the playing field and be dancing naked too. Assuming someone wants you because you want them is INSANE. It would be like me saying the boys high school track team jogs topless because they want me ...or else why would they be sending me mixed messages. They are not sending messages at all. See how insane it sounds? Since the singer seems to be trying to convince her that she doesn't belong with the man she is with, it does not sound like she propositioned him then backed down....thus sending "blurred lines". It sounds more like he's living in fantasy land.
@9DennyJ I don't agree with the OP's interpretation in regards to rape, but in regards to your question. I'd suggest that @RoseTeaCup1216 is referring to the culture in most societies (still today) the victims of rape are not likely to come forward and report it. That is because some have the fear that "they were asking for it", or maybe they doubt if they did send the wrong messages (and how that would be perceived by society) etc. Of course there are many other reasons why rape victims might not report the crimes, but the above seems to be what...
@9DennyJ I don't agree with the OP's interpretation in regards to rape, but in regards to your question. I'd suggest that @RoseTeaCup1216 is referring to the culture in most societies (still today) the victims of rape are not likely to come forward and report it. That is because some have the fear that "they were asking for it", or maybe they doubt if they did send the wrong messages (and how that would be perceived by society) etc. Of course there are many other reasons why rape victims might not report the crimes, but the above seems to be what the OP is suggesting.
Does the song objectify women? Yes. Does portraying women as objects deter victims from reporting crimes? Maybe.
What I meant by "rape culture" is a culture in which the victim is blamed. Yes, it's possible it may deter reports of rape but that was not the point. The point is when I crime is committed against a person and we first question what that person did to deserve it....blaming the victim, rather than the criminal. Here's a cut and paste definition from the net....
What I meant by "rape culture" is a culture in which the victim is blamed. Yes, it's possible it may deter reports of rape but that was not the point. The point is when I crime is committed against a person and we first question what that person did to deserve it....blaming the victim, rather than the criminal. Here's a cut and paste definition from the net....
What is the “Rape Culture?”
What is the “Rape Culture?”
Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and...
Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. Rape culture is perpetuated through the use of misogynistic language, the objectification of women’s bodies, and the glamorization of sexual violence, thereby creating a society that disregards women’s rights and safety.
Rape Culture affects every woman. The rape of one woman is a degradation, terror, and limitation to all women. Most women and girls limit their behavior because of the existence of rape. Most women and girls live in fear of rape. Men, in general, do not. That’s how rape functions as a powerful means by which the whole female population is held in a subordinate position to the whole male population, even though many men don’t rape, and many women are never victims of rape. This cycle of fear is the legacy of Rape Culture.
Examples of Rape Culture:
e>Blaming the victim (“She asked for it!”)
Trivializing sexual assault (“Boys will be boys!”)
Sexually explicit jokes
Tolerance of sexual harassment
Inflating false rape report statistics
Publicly scrutinizing a victim’s dress, mental state, motives, and history
Gratuitous gendered violence in movies and television
Defining “manhood” as dominant and sexually aggressive
Defining “womanhood” as submissive and sexually passive
Pressure on men to “score”
Pressure on women to not appear “cold”
Assuming only promiscuous women get raped
Assuming that men don’t get raped or that only “weak” men get raped
Refusing to take rape accusations seriously
Teaching women to avoid getting raped instead of teaching men not to rape
@RoseTeaCup1216 step away from the gender studies book, slowly, DO IT, NOW GET ON THE GROUND, PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK, NOW!! Alright I'm just gonna leave you here for a bit and let you cool off cause that was some dumb ass shit that I just read.
@RoseTeaCup1216 step away from the gender studies book, slowly, DO IT, NOW GET ON THE GROUND, PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK, NOW!! Alright I'm just gonna leave you here for a bit and let you cool off cause that was some dumb ass shit that I just read.
@RoseTeaCup1216 I think you're wrong. The Name of the song and the fact that the narrator says he can't get or give clear signs means he is aware that he doen't have consent yet:
"I hate these blurred lines!" the reading is not clear for the narrator, he doen't know if what he wants is possible.
"But you're a good girl!" goes in contrast with what he fantasizes.
"The way you grab me, Must wanna get nasty" here he suspects she is interested in the same.
"Go ahead, get at me" this part indicates he is waiting for consent....
@RoseTeaCup1216 I think you're wrong. The Name of the song and the fact that the narrator says he can't get or give clear signs means he is aware that he doen't have consent yet:
"I hate these blurred lines!" the reading is not clear for the narrator, he doen't know if what he wants is possible.
"But you're a good girl!" goes in contrast with what he fantasizes.
"The way you grab me, Must wanna get nasty" here he suspects she is interested in the same.
"Go ahead, get at me" this part indicates he is waiting for consent.
And there is the part that makes it clear he doesn't know anything for sure:
"If you can't hear, what I'm tryna say
If you can't read, from the same page
Maybe I'm going deaf
Maybe I'm going blind
Maybe I'm out of my mind"
... Having said all of that, I do think it does promote a sexually aggressive culture, even if not intentionally. Many can understand the lyrics as an endorsement for men being aggressive at nightclubs, especially when women dance and enjoy it (they might not be thinking about the message at all while doing so, but horny men might). Rapy men can also understand it as an endorsement if they don't pay much attention. So, I think Thicke was not careful enough. He should have put a lot more emphasis in the fact that he is being both delusional and realistic at the same time, that he doesn't know what's going on and that both things are possible but he needs a series of signs and consents to get to what he fantasizes.
I think the perfect ending would have been him getting the girl.
This is a song is a catchy tune that contributes to our rape culture. It's about a man who is interested in a woman, already in a relationship, yet he is convinced that she's making a mistake and that deep-down she prefers to be with him. He also refers to her as an "animal", which is what he has reduced her to in his mind. This fella is projecting HIS desire onto her. He wants her so he sees anything and everything as a "sign" that she wants him. The creepiest line is "I know you want it". Rapists and pedophiles often use this line about their victims.."They wanted it." If someone says "No", take her or his word for it. The original video has beautiful young women in flesh-toned g-strings dancing around fully-clothed men. Men already have a physical advantage over women and this makes the young women seems even more vulnerable. I guess these guys aren't as confident or they'd even the playing field and be dancing naked too. Assuming someone wants you because you want them is INSANE. It would be like me saying the boys high school track team jogs topless because they want me ...or else why would they be sending me mixed messages. They are not sending messages at all. See how insane it sounds? Since the singer seems to be trying to convince her that she doesn't belong with the man she is with, it does not sound like she propositioned him then backed down....thus sending "blurred lines". It sounds more like he's living in fantasy land.
This. So much. Especially that first line. It's a bit conflicting. The song itself is great and catchy, but the lyrics are absolutely disgusting.
This. So much. Especially that first line. It's a bit conflicting. The song itself is great and catchy, but the lyrics are absolutely disgusting.
You're a genius, this is perfect :) would you be able to help me explain this to other idiots??
You're a genius, this is perfect :) would you be able to help me explain this to other idiots??
This is retarded
This is retarded
What rape culture?
What rape culture?
@9DennyJ I don't agree with the OP's interpretation in regards to rape, but in regards to your question. I'd suggest that @RoseTeaCup1216 is referring to the culture in most societies (still today) the victims of rape are not likely to come forward and report it. That is because some have the fear that "they were asking for it", or maybe they doubt if they did send the wrong messages (and how that would be perceived by society) etc. Of course there are many other reasons why rape victims might not report the crimes, but the above seems to be what...
@9DennyJ I don't agree with the OP's interpretation in regards to rape, but in regards to your question. I'd suggest that @RoseTeaCup1216 is referring to the culture in most societies (still today) the victims of rape are not likely to come forward and report it. That is because some have the fear that "they were asking for it", or maybe they doubt if they did send the wrong messages (and how that would be perceived by society) etc. Of course there are many other reasons why rape victims might not report the crimes, but the above seems to be what the OP is suggesting.
Does the song objectify women? Yes. Does portraying women as objects deter victims from reporting crimes? Maybe.
What I meant by "rape culture" is a culture in which the victim is blamed. Yes, it's possible it may deter reports of rape but that was not the point. The point is when I crime is committed against a person and we first question what that person did to deserve it....blaming the victim, rather than the criminal. Here's a cut and paste definition from the net....
What I meant by "rape culture" is a culture in which the victim is blamed. Yes, it's possible it may deter reports of rape but that was not the point. The point is when I crime is committed against a person and we first question what that person did to deserve it....blaming the victim, rather than the criminal. Here's a cut and paste definition from the net....
What is the “Rape Culture?”
What is the “Rape Culture?”
Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and...
Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. Rape culture is perpetuated through the use of misogynistic language, the objectification of women’s bodies, and the glamorization of sexual violence, thereby creating a society that disregards women’s rights and safety.
Rape Culture affects every woman. The rape of one woman is a degradation, terror, and limitation to all women. Most women and girls limit their behavior because of the existence of rape. Most women and girls live in fear of rape. Men, in general, do not. That’s how rape functions as a powerful means by which the whole female population is held in a subordinate position to the whole male population, even though many men don’t rape, and many women are never victims of rape. This cycle of fear is the legacy of Rape Culture. Examples of Rape Culture:
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Blaming the victim (“She asked for it!”) Trivializing sexual assault (“Boys will be boys!”) Sexually explicit jokes Tolerance of sexual harassment Inflating false rape report statistics Publicly scrutinizing a victim’s dress, mental state, motives, and history Gratuitous gendered violence in movies and television Defining “manhood” as dominant and sexually aggressive Defining “womanhood” as submissive and sexually passive Pressure on men to “score” Pressure on women to not appear “cold” Assuming only promiscuous women get raped Assuming that men don’t get raped or that only “weak” men get raped Refusing to take rape accusations seriously Teaching women to avoid getting raped instead of teaching men not to rape@RoseTeaCup1216 step away from the gender studies book, slowly, DO IT, NOW GET ON THE GROUND, PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK, NOW!! Alright I'm just gonna leave you here for a bit and let you cool off cause that was some dumb ass shit that I just read.
@RoseTeaCup1216 step away from the gender studies book, slowly, DO IT, NOW GET ON THE GROUND, PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK, NOW!! Alright I'm just gonna leave you here for a bit and let you cool off cause that was some dumb ass shit that I just read.
@RoseTeaCup1216 I think you're wrong. The Name of the song and the fact that the narrator says he can't get or give clear signs means he is aware that he doen't have consent yet: "I hate these blurred lines!" the reading is not clear for the narrator, he doen't know if what he wants is possible. "But you're a good girl!" goes in contrast with what he fantasizes. "The way you grab me, Must wanna get nasty" here he suspects she is interested in the same. "Go ahead, get at me" this part indicates he is waiting for consent....
@RoseTeaCup1216 I think you're wrong. The Name of the song and the fact that the narrator says he can't get or give clear signs means he is aware that he doen't have consent yet: "I hate these blurred lines!" the reading is not clear for the narrator, he doen't know if what he wants is possible. "But you're a good girl!" goes in contrast with what he fantasizes. "The way you grab me, Must wanna get nasty" here he suspects she is interested in the same. "Go ahead, get at me" this part indicates he is waiting for consent.
And there is the part that makes it clear he doesn't know anything for sure: "If you can't hear, what I'm tryna say If you can't read, from the same page Maybe I'm going deaf Maybe I'm going blind Maybe I'm out of my mind"
... Having said all of that, I do think it does promote a sexually aggressive culture, even if not intentionally. Many can understand the lyrics as an endorsement for men being aggressive at nightclubs, especially when women dance and enjoy it (they might not be thinking about the message at all while doing so, but horny men might). Rapy men can also understand it as an endorsement if they don't pay much attention. So, I think Thicke was not careful enough. He should have put a lot more emphasis in the fact that he is being both delusional and realistic at the same time, that he doesn't know what's going on and that both things are possible but he needs a series of signs and consents to get to what he fantasizes. I think the perfect ending would have been him getting the girl.