You're just a clone of them
Have you no way to set a fire
You're just a clone of them
The Devil's in the ways we live
It's all chemicals by and large it's not you
Or your excitement
I'm caught trading blows and climbing walls for a view
Out of resentment
You're just a clone of them
Have you no way to set a fire
You're just a clone of them
The Devil's in the ways we live
But this sadness you saw in us
Comes honestly from foreign worlds
There's too many muddy feet
It's all too easy counting
So in the end, if I hold the fate, you hold a chance
Never admit, I'd simply ascend
To see what the soul looks like in the end
After all
We need a change I feel
From this saga of old past blandness
Maybe I'll tase myself
Wake up from this maze of lies built up
You're just a clone of them
Have you no way to set a fire
You're just a clone of them
The Devil's in the ways we live
After all, what do I know
Have you no way to set a fire
You're just a clone of them
The Devil's in the ways we live
Or your excitement
I'm caught trading blows and climbing walls for a view
Out of resentment
Have you no way to set a fire
You're just a clone of them
The Devil's in the ways we live
Comes honestly from foreign worlds
There's too many muddy feet
It's all too easy counting
Never admit, I'd simply ascend
To see what the soul looks like in the end
After all
From this saga of old past blandness
Maybe I'll tase myself
Wake up from this maze of lies built up
Have you no way to set a fire
You're just a clone of them
The Devil's in the ways we live
After all, what do I know
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The song touches on the criticism that Chevelle have received from some quarters that they are just clones of acts such as progressive-metal band Tool. Pete Loeffler explained to Artist Direct: "It's about getting s--t from peers and people saying that you're ripping somebody else off. As you're coming up in the world of music, you're going to get a lot of s--t. People are trying to figure out what you are and what you're doing, and they want to label you. I'm thumbing my nose at that conversation. A lot of people will still say that we sound like Tool. It happens every time we put an album out. I'm certainly not going for that; I'm trying to be honest with what I like to play. 'Clones' touches on that a lot." -taken from songfacts website
This is the first I've heard of this. I find it VERY strange that anyone would say Chevelle sounded like Tool. Tool sucks and all their stuff sounds exactly alike. Chevelle sounds like a melodic lullaby, it's beautiful. lol.
This is the first I've heard of this. I find it VERY strange that anyone would say Chevelle sounded like Tool. Tool sucks and all their stuff sounds exactly alike. Chevelle sounds like a melodic lullaby, it's beautiful. lol.
While I do like Tool I do not like them near as much as a i do Chevelle, and to say they sound alike is lost with me. So this would surprise me as well.
While I do like Tool I do not like them near as much as a i do Chevelle, and to say they sound alike is lost with me. So this would surprise me as well.
@Joel2point0 Tool and chevelle are two of my favorite bands, they may sound similar but the feeling while listening to each band is too diferent. That's my opinion.
@Joel2point0 Tool and chevelle are two of my favorite bands, they may sound similar but the feeling while listening to each band is too diferent. That's my opinion.
Haha I love how someone throws in an - according to himself - "obvious" Christian meaning, when the artists themselves have a total different idea about the song. I know music can have different effects and can evoke several feelings and interpretations, but DON'T put something like that down as a fact. Just say that to YOU it reminds you of the bible. Fine with that, but don't think for the artists or other fans.
Congratulations, Rudez88. Your post is the straw to break the camel's back. In this case, the straw is the highly unoriginal sentiment you've regurgitated, while the camel's back is my patience with that sentiment.
Congratulations, Rudez88. Your post is the straw to break the camel's back. In this case, the straw is the highly unoriginal sentiment you've regurgitated, while the camel's back is my patience with that sentiment.
Intention does not equal meaning. An artist can say what they intended (partially or fully) with their art, but that does not exhaust what the art means. If I write the word "ORANGE" on a billboard, and intended the color, while some other dude comes along and reads it as meaning the fruit, the word "ORANGE" on the billboard has at least two meanings, both the...
Intention does not equal meaning. An artist can say what they intended (partially or fully) with their art, but that does not exhaust what the art means. If I write the word "ORANGE" on a billboard, and intended the color, while some other dude comes along and reads it as meaning the fruit, the word "ORANGE" on the billboard has at least two meanings, both the color and the fruit. In other words, the subjective experience of the other dude is not merely subjective. It touches on an objective facet of the symbol. Yes, I didn't intend for the word to be read as meaning the fruit, but I should have been aware that the English word "orange" just does have these common meanings. That's what it means to share language. (This is all Semiotics 101, by the way.)
I hate this about popular music criticism and interpretation: any attempt to forward an objective interpretation of music and/or lyrics--especially when the interpretation posits religious aspects--is shot down as "intolerant," "close-minded," etc. 'We all got our opinions, man, and no one has any right to forward his opinion over anyone else's.' Anyone see the irony of this last sentence? This sentence, parroted in how many different ways in press and on the Internet, forwards AS OBJECTIVE FACT the OPINION that it is wrong to forward one's opinion as fact. You might rejoin that it is not an opinion that it is wrong to forward one opinion as fact, but rather a fact, to which I pose the following question: How do you know?
Answer: You don't. There are no practical means of determining which domains of discussion are open to fact and which open merely to opinion. (Also, in classical thought, "opinion" didn't mean something that was true for its believer and not necessarily true for anyone else; it meant something of which its believer wasn't 100% sure.) If anyone actually cares about value theory and types of knowledge, realize that this whole "Fact vs. Opinion" garbage is based on the long-refuted philosophical system of logical positivism. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_positivism )
With respects to "Clones," come on: read "I'd simply ascend / To see what the soul looks like in the end," consider Pete's admitted Catholicism, and try to read it in a non-religious way. (The "they're not a Christian band" bullshit is a cop-out. And again, what Pete consciously intends is only one part of the picture.) Whether "Clones" syncs up specifically with "Envy" is a matter of debate, but jackwhiteWannaBe is right that this album's symbolism is laced with religious significance.
To me this song touches on 2 closely related subjects. The song title results from the other.
As far as the argument of weather or not spirituality comes into play, I would say yes definitely (based on my interpretation of the song. Every single person's will be just like all other songs.) I think they are literally talking about cloned "subjects." They have been doing this since the 50s, looking into it in the 30s, but made a lot of progress after WW2 with Operation Paperclip. It's not that difficult for them to do. Just think of how you can clone some plants, same concept, but albeit more in depth. Clones already walk amongst us, have been for a long time now. A large majority are all of the people you see on tv in every aspect. Meaning if you see them on tv a lot, know who they are, there is a possibility that you are looking at one. Do they keep these people alive after they clone them? Yes Do they sometimes clone them then ☠️ off the original? Yes (go along with the program or.......) Do some have multiples? Yes Do they sometimes malfuncton? Yes Can they be "programmed" to act on the behalf of the group? Yes
Have you no way to set a fire to me is saying "Are you able to think of your own mind, body, and soul any longer? Clones do not. The devils in the way we live is just pointing out who these people follow, it is certainly not The Lord.
It's all chemicals by and large it's not you Or your excitement meaning "we are not doing this to you because you are something special, it's just protocol at this point."
I'm caught trading blows and climbing walls for a view Out of resentment meaning he the person telling the story understands all of this, therefore being attacked spirituality, continues to hold firm in his beliefs, and go against this evil that he resents.
But this sadness you saw in us Comes honestly from foreign worlds meaning all of the bad in this world is directly a result of who rules this world. Who lead the fallen ones that were cast out of heaven? To me this is all speaking from what's written in The Bible.
There's too many muddy feet It's all too easy counting being another Bible reference in talking about the Nephilum. They took mortal women and bore children with them, hence the muddy feet (gene pool tainted)
So in the end, if I hold the fate, you hold a chance Never admit, I'd simply ascend To see what the soul looks like in the end After all meaning if he continues to hold onto his faith, any other human being that understands him can also be saved. He would never "told you" when he is called, he would simply go to and make it into Heaven.
We need a change I feel From this saga of old past blandness Maybe I'll tase myself Wake up from this maze of lies built up: meaning the way things have been run on earth for so long is "played out", it's sterile yet very sad, and a change is needed. He sees all of the lies and deceit because he understands and just wants this way to end, tazing himself being a "what do I have to do here, I'll even give my own body with pain." Then with the repeat of this verse he adds in that he feels he's tried to wake people up, to little response, and he's saying hey I know the truth here, but you refuse to listen what do I know like he has been dismissed so many times.
Just 1 human beings interpretation.
beautiful song and as a Christian this song speaks a lot. This album is a lot like Point #1 in that it seems Chevelle took another Apostolic approach to its lyrics (something they strayed from on their last few) This song's understanding is obvious. It relates to their other song Envy. The secular world is clones of each other. The artist is lost in the drugs and the devils way. If u listen to this song and Envy back and forth you get the meaning they of this album. They will believe in their God and the rest can do what it will but they "from their lyrics" they will ascend and they will be on top in the other world.
I love how music can be something different and meaningful to different people. I get a completely different vibe from this song, but i think its cool that you get something from it at-least.
I love how music can be something different and meaningful to different people. I get a completely different vibe from this song, but i think its cool that you get something from it at-least.
I've got to agree with Rudez88, everyone should find their own meaning in music, don't state your interpretation to a song so matter-of-factly, especially when Pete himself has explicitly stated that they are not a Christian band, and that they all feel music shouldn't be a podium for religious preaching, and Pete has also stated that this song was touching on all the criticism they've received for their similarities to Tool.
I've got to agree with Rudez88, everyone should find their own meaning in music, don't state your interpretation to a song so matter-of-factly, especially when Pete himself has explicitly stated that they are not a Christian band, and that they all feel music shouldn't be a podium for religious preaching, and Pete has also stated that this song was touching on all the criticism they've received for their similarities to Tool.
I'm not trying to say that your not intiled to your idea of this songs, infact I love to know that someone has found such a strong connection to...
I'm not trying to say that your not intiled to your idea of this songs, infact I love to know that someone has found such a strong connection to such a beautiful songs, but you shouldn't run around talking about songs like music is is so black and white. Maybe this isn't what you meant, but when you say things like "This song's understanding (I assume you meant meaning) is obvious" it sounds like your saying that everyone else here is wrong
Also I'd like to hear your interpretation of Envy, to me that song was seemed to be a literal explanation of envy, so I'm curious as to were you got you ideas from
not sure why my OP is included in my followup post, sorry for double posting
not sure why my OP is included in my followup post, sorry for double posting
Has nothing to do with religion. Period. I hate people who dance around stuff so they don't sound one sided or mean. It is what it is.
Has nothing to do with religion. Period. I hate people who dance around stuff so they don't sound one sided or mean. It is what it is.
No, actually, you're all wrong. The song is about an alien invasion where they create clones of a lonely man using space-age technology and chemical reactions. Then, they take the clones on an adventure into outer space, where he and his army save an obscure planet from annihilation.
No, actually, you're all wrong. The song is about an alien invasion where they create clones of a lonely man using space-age technology and chemical reactions. Then, they take the clones on an adventure into outer space, where he and his army save an obscure planet from annihilation.
Seriously. If you don't like the guy's interpretation, don't read it. Just listen to the damn music.
Seriously. If you don't like the guy's interpretation, don't read it. Just listen to the damn music.