IN ALL HONESTY

I think you guys have gotten a lot of it right. I believe that he's not referring to actual rape (necessarily) but rather the condemnation that manifests when we can't seem to be free of a lust that seems to come back no matter how far away we've gotten from it.

The song is the man struggling with how many mistakes he's made and how he eventually comes to believe that he's defined by them.

It's a struggle between logic (we all are absolutely hopeless without Jesus) and the ultimate reality of grace.

This song has (so far) spoken to me with the most clarity; I've been raised in a Christian home and am currently in a spot of utter confusion where the facts conflict with the places I've been. God's got free grace and I don't wish to abuse it and live a life half-surrendered, and yet in the same breath I know that I will fail again and again.

I want to be the one who pleases Him, and to hear Him call me by name and yet am so aware of this distance.

it's all summed up in that,

"I don't want to be the father who has to watch his daughter Be conned and stripped bare by a monster like me."

I see this as a guy who possibly rapes, numerous lines suggest this. God is saying that he will forgive him for what he's done yet he feels he doesn't deserve God's forgiveness and is just another lost cause and wants to be put to sleep like a dog.

isnt the album about god calling out the devil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4EGwqMBQ0

Cody Bonette! :D

the first song is about the devil calling out God, the middle songs are about God speaking to people and raising an army. and the finisher is Gods reply to the devil.

this song i don't think is about rape but just any mans lust and lustfull acts twards women. but God wont give up on him and has died and bleeding so that the man can still be the one who pleases him. but then man just can't understand why he deserves this grace.

I agree with the whole rapist deal. but for the chorus i think this could be for anyone that thinks that their sins are too much, too big for God to forgive.

"You can't see fairness as your clarity. The better man is what your heart wants to be but you rape every trusted chance I bring your way. If justice you seek, in death it should be."-is God saying He knows the man wants to change, and by that he can forgive him. but if that man doesnt give in, bc of the guilt and he chooses to NOT give up to God. death is will be is end (hell)

in the end its God who just wants you to be able to understand theres no sin to big, crazy, nasty for him to forgive.

yea i totally see this as a guy who gives into sexual temptations. a 'player' so to speak. i just feel that the lyrics amplify and intesify the severity of the sin he commits. and rightfully so cause when Jesus taught he totally changed things around from "murder is bad" to "Hating is just as bad as murder" and "adultry is bad" to "lustful thoughts are just as bad as adultry". so in a way on the outside of the guy in this song, he may appear as just a player, but on the inside to God he might as well be jack the ripper. much like the pharisees in luke 11:39

CODY CODY CODY CODY CODY!!!

Seeing that he has featured on this new album, he might still want to continue his career as a musician. Here's hoping!!!

I feel that this song is about a man who has chosen to objectify women in some way or another (rape, prostituting, general domination of weak minded women). He says that he stalks the streets, hunting for the next one that will hang on every word he speaks as if it is the truth. There are in fact people who get so rapt up in someone that they take everything that person says as the truth, ignoring things that would throw a red flag for most (physical, emotional, sexual abuse, infidelity, taking advantage of her).

The man has thrown away conventional virtues and without them, the "rewards" are good to him because it's what he wants. Without virtues, he is able to take part in all the worldly things he wants and enjoy them. He can run faster than guilt, meaning that he never takes the blame for what he does because what he does is never wrong in his own eyes.

But God confronts this sinner. It is obvious that the man has some glint of guilt as he speaks with God, saying "I wish I could be so much more than me." He knows what he is doing is wrong, and he wants to repent from it, but doesn't know how. He tells God that he doesn't believe he is worth the effort of saving. He feels that his sins are far too great to be forgiven, but the whole time God is telling him that he can and will forgive him.

He continues denying God's open arms, all the time reasoning to himself why he doesn't deserve to be saved. He says he is a dog that has tasted (flesh, sin) and turned (continued living in the flesh) and he has found his strength in another (meaning he finds strength in oppressing women). He continues to be resistant to the end of the song.

Finally, he tells God that he doesn't want to see his daughter conned and taken advantage of by someone like himself, a monster. He accepts God and asks to be put to sleep, presumably putting his sinful life to sleep so he can wake up anew and saved.

I'd also like to say that this song is the most moving to me. The absolute intensity of the conversation between the sinner and God is amazingly well constructed and executed.

i feel like there is something missing from oh sleepers new album "when i am god" was heavier than most of the new album. The lyrics in the new album are good yet the music something, does anyone feel the same way?