Sour Grapes

Toolhead86 has it. This song totally relates to everything I've been reading too, and links up with what Indigo Children are and everything.

It IS evolution, change.

It is made to sound like Revelation verse because maybe he's also aware of what I have read, that the bible is basically based completely off of astrology. Revelations is telling us how the constellations and changes will be in the "end times" The end of the age of Pisces.

"But I felt no fear, only comfort, for I was as a child in the womb And she bade me here through yonder portal which looked upon the heavens, and behold! a morning angel' She ascended slowly from far beyond the horizon, her light like a heavenly finger pointing the way" A planet or star is supposed to appear again. Heavenly sounds like it could be another word used for up above. (As he's said in another song, analog time piece, sky wide)

"And on yonder wall she traced for me a path which led me fine directions, eight winters to east and behold as my feet landed firmly upon the final winter of the second score." That's what I think that is what it says. But I haven't read anything bout this yet. I do know now that the winter solstice is around December 25, the birth of the Sun, basically. So the final winter could very well be that date they are setting, December 22nd, 2012. Look more up about Orion's belt and Sirius for all that.

"The reflections of heaven on earth." Basically saying, the sky is being reflected on earth. Again, look up Orion's belt and Egypt's pyramids for examples of the reflection. Everything before that is the way we, as humans, must live. Basically just going as one with the earth. There will be change and basically righteous could mean enlightened. So, "Righteous are those who look up and sway with the wind, who look down and dance with the shifting of the soil, who swim with the movement of the tides, who seek the truth around them and discover we are and have always been in paradise."

So usually, "heaven on earth" sounds like the ultimate peace, because of what heaven has always represented. However, I think heaven on earth was made to tell us that when the sky reflects it's self on earth, that will be when the new age comes, the 5th movement of man, and some will realize this new way of life without anything but the earth. No possessions. No trying to get more and more to make yourself happy. You will be at peace with just you and this earth.

"And she spoke again, saying know, my child, that there is no devil seeking to corrupt the hearts of men." Pretty self-explanatory, really.

"No evil, save blind faith, ignorance, and the desire for the unprepared to blame others for the devastation left in the wake of change." No such thing as evil, except for what is caused from blind faith, ignorance, and the desire for the ones who were caught off guard and supposed to be in charge when things go wrong blame others for what has happened.

"Change, my child. Change is in the heavens. Change is on this earth. Change is all around us, and we are reflections of the divine, we must roll with these changes, for we are these changes." Basically what I said earlier.

"Eyes wide open, we must look upon the heavens as a mirror. Wide awake, aware, deeply breathing." Again, referring to the sky as the heavens, just like the bible did, to reflect what they have set up to let us know when this will happen. We will be aware of life, new ways of living, wide awake.

"And when the shit comes down, my child, you will be there, a true and holy survivor to inherit the kingdom of god. You will rise above the rumbles of the unprepared to greet the new day, to drink from the sweet fruit of the vine, the water of life, the blood of the risen Christ, my child."

Life is light and the water of life is Aquarius, the new age, giving us new life. Blood is life, and the Christ is the innocent, the crystal. Looking into Indigo Children, once again.

"Go now, child, tell them all. The ignorant, the blinded by dogma, blinded by faith, the doubters, the nay sayers." Basically, most of the world now. How many of you have already dismissed what I have typed as crazy hippie bullshit? "Tell them all, child, they can not see the kingdom of god, they can not see paradise unfold before them, they can not drink from the chalice which holds the blood of Christ, the water of life, until they get right with Jesus." You should know by now, that they did not mean getting right with the man or god or whatever.

Also, I've read that Yahweh was another word for Light.

Lol sorry, also:

"It's always gonna be sour grapes with you boy, until you get right with jesus."

Sour grapes could be referring to the greek fable, The Fox and the Grapes. "The protagonist, a fox, upon failing to find a way to reach grapes hanging high up on a vine, retreated and said: "The grapes are sour anyway!" The moral is stated at the end of the fable as:

It is easy to despise what you cannot get. "

People are going to keep making these rationalizations and "despise what they cannot get" until they realize what others have realized, that having nothing is happiness. Blah, make sense? It's so hard to explain.

HAHA Rev Maynard

This song is clearly Maynard speaking of his personal beliefs, but in the tone of a preacher... its obviously NOT one of his many "tonge-in-cheek" religion bashs.

-hes talking about a female god -"there is no devil to cause guilt" -and my favorite part..."the ignorant, the blinded by dogma, blinded by faith, the doubters, the nay sayers. Tell them all, child, they can not see the kingdom of god"

listen to the lyrics, i think you guys will agree with me

I believe the ??? part is "blinded by dogma." I've seen sites that say paw, but that makes absolutely no sense.

Oi, it's "it's gonna be sour grapes with you boy, until you get RIPE with jesus" and has anybody heard the whispering in the background? And you haven't written the Hallelujah bit and the jehova bit.

I love the way the sermon plays out, it has such wonderful imagery. I'm sure we all know Maynard's penchant for New-Age philosophy, but what makes this unique is how he merges it with Christian-styled delivery. The whole thing is pretty densely packed, so let's take a look at each section.

"And the angel of the lord led me into the belly of the holy mother A chamber black as pitch."

Behold, the holy vagina, most wonderful of temples! Probably a metaphorical use here, but considering how often Maynard uses genital imagery (Magdalena, 4 degrees, etc), I think it would be silly not to take that angle here. Sex and spirituality seems to be highly linked for him.

"But I felt no fear, only comfort, for I was as a child in the womb And she baid me here through yonder portal which looked upon the heavens, and behold! a morning angel' She ascended slowly from far beyond the horizon, her light like a heavenly finger pointing the way"

Child in a womb, pretty clear there. We've got a re-birth here, he crawls back out of the vagina into a new world. Compare to born-again Christians. Next symbol is the morning angel, or Lucifer. Interestingly, the angel is female, drawing a connection to Venus/Aphrodite, goddess of Love. Another merger of sin and sex.

"And on yonder wall she traced for me a path which led me, five directions, eight winters to east and behold! As my feet landed firmly upon the final winter of the second score."

Other people here have commented on the eight winters to the east line, I'll let you read their interpretation.

"There appeared before me a heavenly star, a holy virgin, the bringer of life and breath, and she spoke unto me, saying 'fear not the movement of the heavens above or the earth below, for change is what we are, my child. Righteous are those who look up and sway with the wind, who look down and dance with the shifting of the soil, who swim with the movement of the tides, who seek the truth around them and discover we are and have always been in paradise. The reflections of heaven on earth. Amen!"

Here I think MJK is referencing The Star from the Tarot, a symbol of enlightenment and inspiration. The reflection of heaven on earth indeed. The message from the Star seems to be "go with the flow". Seek re-integration with the natural forces of this world, for humanity has been steadily divorcing itself from Momma.

"And she spoke again, saying know, my child, that there is no devil seeking to corrupt the hearts of men. No evil, save blind faith, ignorance, and the desire for the unprepared to blame others for the devastation left in the wake of change. Change, my child. Change is in the heavens. Change is on this earth. Change is all around us, and we are reflections of the divine, we must roll with these changes, for we are these changes. Eyes wide open, we must look upon the heavens as a mirror. Wide awake, aware, deeply breathing."

This is where things get interesting. We have a direct condemnation of Christian rhetoric on evil. There is NO devil seeking to corrupt the hearts of man. This section I believe is hinting at the importance of personal responsibility. You can't blame your faults on the devil because you are your own person. "We must look upon the heavens as a mirror" is a nice little reversal of the earlier line about the Star. While the divine is present on earth to inspire us to seek it without, we need to start by realizing our own internal divinity. As above so below kind of idea. The change part seems rather self-explanatory - the world is flux, is chaos, and we must roll with it.

"And when the shit comes down, my child, you will be there, a true and holy survivor to inherit the kingdom of god. You will rise above the rumbles of the unprepared to greet the new day, to drink from the sweet fruit of the vine, the water of life, the blood of the risen christ, my child."

Reintegrating with Christian imagery now. Most religious structures tend to have an apocalypse worked in, the Christians just made theirs REALLY exciting. The Risen god is everywhere, but the Christian interpretation of this myth resonates widely, considering how influential Christianity has been on Western culture.

"Go now, child, tell them all. The ignorant, the blind paw of dogma, blinded by faith, the doubters, the nay sayers. Tell them all, child, they can not see the kingdom of god, they can not see paradise unfold before them, they can not drink from the chalice which holds the blood of christ, the water of life, until they get right with jesus. Until they get right with jesus. It's always gonna be sour grapes with you boy, until you get ripe with jesus."

Again, more potent Christian rhetoric. Important to note is the denunciation of dogma and ignorance. Jesus here is not the Jesus of the Christians, any more than the morning angel is the Lucifer of the Christians.

On a side note, does anyone know who does the actual sermon? I think it sounds a bit like Bob Odenkirk, which is a possibility considering MJK's occasional presence on Mr. Show.

Biggest slap to organized religion, in my opinion. Same kind of messages he's tried to convey with Tool, we are all one human body and are to live as one, only then will we live in paradise or "heaven on earth."

This is definitely another tongue-in-cheek approach to religion that Maynard is famous for. It's not only comical, but it's a perfect satire of how Televangelists and even preachers go about ranting and raving incoherently about nothing and folks fall for it with their blind faith.

The chanting of "Jehovah, Yahweh(Jhvh, Jhwh in traditional form)" adds a stronger effect to the whole song.

I love the album, especially this song.

also, it's crumbles, not rumbles.

Also, it's five not "??fine??"