I'm Around

the line: 'we'll never scale those hieghts again' makes me so sad. my girlfriend jus broke up with me too. :(:(

I like this song a lot. Seems to be about a relationship the songwriter cares deeply about. I'm confused about the brief reference to losing their daughter.

favorite line: "Sunday waves and makes faces all the time"

great song. it's most probably about a relationship with a person he cared a lot for; and he probably lost it ("And couldn't we get a second chance to go back and start over").. about the daughter reference.. maybe it's not actually a daughter so to speak, it's just a metaphor for something else like their relationship, since he said they lost their daughter. my favorite line is: and i want to again be holding hands with you underwater"...

i hinstley don't think that it's to do w/ a reationship at all. i don'k know why but something inside me makes me want to just sit there and think of nothing but inly john. i wish i could share more of what i think it's about but it seems to be traped somewhere in me. i haven't listened to this album in ages i really have to get it bck off my friend. anyway instesd of me blabering on i'll try to tell you

it's like when you first meet your first spirit or not your first like when you get to know a little more about them and you feel them around you it's like their around you, hence the name of the song, and you feel either close or tight or something like that i don't know. ah the relationship stuff could be the relation he had w/ the spirits.i don't know if i ever figure it out i'll tell you but you're prob right about the relationship stuff

this song makes me feel unalone. it's such a gorgeous song...

sorry, one more thing: "be careful of what you are" is my favorite line.

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This song makes me so sad. The end But the guitar vibe makes it feel like he's dealing with it well? If that makes sense. LIke he's accepted it and it's okay and now he's just looking back Fav line 'I want to again be holding hands / With you underwater'

This song is about Aleister Crowell

@ i love JF

i actually see what you're saying. i think a lot of john's songs have that illusion of being about a relationship but at their core, really aren't. what you described sounds more like john.

of course, it could be a mix of things. song meanings are rarely simple.

@ Wack_Strings

i read about how it was written while he was reading an aleister crowell biography, but i don't know enough about that/him to have more information.

My view is this:

It's a song about the essential essence of life.

/You know I'm around you I woundn't be if I didn't love you I'm going to run through you You know you're quite a character It goes that I haven't got a care/

This is 'the essential nature' talking and this continues, to converse with the mind: /When we float down the river I wonder will I lose you When we roam through a blizzard/

'Will I lose my you, my mind?'

Then it changes, to the mind talking:

/I hope I'm not the other guy We'll never scale those heights again We've lost our daugther Let's plan to hide from all our friends In silent waters/

The song then switches between the two personas for the remainder:

/Be careful of what you are What you see is just a small part You must look for yourself in others And all the places that you go You see that they are part of you/

This bit is great. Be careful of what you think of yourself as, your perception is narrow, you must see that which is of all existence, we're all the same energy/existence/being.

/I want to again be holding hands With you underwater And couldn't we get a second chance To go back and start over I was thinking before That it was all my fault We Dropped the baton/

Mind (an input into your perception) dominates Being (nature, life, essence, perception) in the majority of mind holding perceptions, as a natural course (it's why we have minds, they've been useful evolutionarily for this reason), to return underwater (before birth, in the womb) is to return to the state before this dominance occurred. Before, the mind was thinking that it was it's fault (the mind judges, perception sees), but now it believes that 'we' (both) dropped the baton. The perception, or being, fooled by the ruse of the mind, is also at fault, making way for all the hate, anger, jealousy, dependence, need, vengence etc in the world that mind goes on to create through the being's submission to mind.

/Sunday waves and makes faces at us all the time And I'm wondering what I call mine/

Sunday is the day of worship in the Christian faith which pervades American society. I think these lines are referring to religion and John's mind is pondering what it calls his set of beliefs.