Frogs Lyrics
A word so wrongfully abused
Are you like me, confused
All included but you
Alone...
Shapes and colors shift with mood
Pupils widen and change their hue
Rapid brown avoid clear blue
Be this way
A child sings an unclaimed tune
Innocence spins cold cocoon
Grow to see the pain too soon
Be this way (5x)
Next week I'll be 28...
I'm still young, it'll be me...
Off the wall I scrape... you...
I can't wake, I gotta wake...
To cause this wake, I gotta wake no more...
It causes wake, to drown this hate....
To never really stay, never will.....
You take your plate...
Put me through hell, live, live...
Direct your fate...
You say I can do it so well...
Your expiration date...
Fate, date, expiration date...
(this was the last time)
Hate...
And don't fuck with me again...
My own clean slate...
Don't fuck with me again...
Makes your eyes dilate...
Makes you shake...
Irate..."
how the hell would u get drug abuse outta this?! my god its clearly about friendships goin throught rough times!!! just cuz layne was on heroin doesnt mean that all their damn music is abt it
Actually it could very easily be an allusion to both. Many, addicts become so deeply codependent on the drugs that in their minds, they attribute the euphoria with a relationship and come to view them almost as a friend. When that friend eventually starts to kill you, you can't feel to an altered mind, that wouldn't feel like a betrayal?
Actually it could very easily be an allusion to both. Many, addicts become so deeply codependent on the drugs that in their minds, they attribute the euphoria with a relationship and come to view them almost as a friend. When that friend eventually starts to kill you, you can't feel to an altered mind, that wouldn't feel like a betrayal?
I think this song is about someone being sociable and popular when they're young but then distancing themselves from people as they grow older because they're done wrong so many times.
"What does friend mean to you? A word so wrongfully abused" -Meaning when you are young and naive, you think a lot of people are your friends when they're not. And he says next that he is confused.
"Sounds of silence often soothe. Shapes and colors shift the mood" -It becomes more appealing to be aloof because different things you notice about people change your opinion.
"Innocence spins cold coccoon. Grow to see the pain too soon" -When you're young and innocent, you are vulnerable to coldness because you're new to things. Having lots of bad experiences will make you grow old faster because you become more vulnerable.
Well, this is how I see the song. I'm sure it could be interpreted several ways.
I feel like this song is definitely about how friendships change and can go bad with age. I really cant understand how people who like AiC so much cant see any of their songs for anything more than just songs about heroin. I mean really, give Layne some credit.
@agginym I don’t think that everybody thinks that about all of their songs, at all. And by the way, when someone is having a hell of a struggle trying to get clean from heroin, of which Layne really wanted and tried many times to do, but unfortunately was unsuccessful. What does that have to do with giving Layne some credit? Besides the fact that Jerry wrote by far most of their stuff, anyway, but that’s not my point. My point is- the whole group had a huge heroin problem at that time. In addition, people don’t seek help to get...
@agginym I don’t think that everybody thinks that about all of their songs, at all. And by the way, when someone is having a hell of a struggle trying to get clean from heroin, of which Layne really wanted and tried many times to do, but unfortunately was unsuccessful. What does that have to do with giving Layne some credit? Besides the fact that Jerry wrote by far most of their stuff, anyway, but that’s not my point. My point is- the whole group had a huge heroin problem at that time. In addition, people don’t seek help to get off of a drug unless overall it’s not working for them, so to speak. It is a common reality that often people write songs about their life and what they are going through. What would be so crazy if Layne, and/or Jerry wrote songs about about how they reached a dream, that many people dream of btw, but very few attain (becoming a well known, well liked, and well respected rock band), then the band’s life goes crazy and out of control due to all the band mates addictions. Then everyone gets clean but Layne. Keep in mind, they are all still young and a “relatively” newer band compared to like Classic Rick groups, so bottom line, they still have many great years still ahead of them to put out good shit. But they can’t, because Layne’s heroin addiction and the irresponsibility that goes with it in his case, prevents the band from continuing on with their dream that they worked so hard for. I mean, AIC’s is just plain lucky they found William and they are not as successful as AIC was with Layne, but they are still able to put out decent music and make money. When Layne couldn’t get his shot together, I really questioned whether Jerry was going to be able to make a go of AUC’s w/o Layne. So I mean, wrt the emotion involved with everyone, we are talking huge! Their life long dream, their livelihood/ability to make money was all up in the air- not minor issues. It would be normal yo write about something that they ALL know is destroying their lives. If that’s their reality or Layne’s reality at the time and they write about it, and it has to do with heroin, how does that make the song like “less than” or whatever you were saying about giving Layne credit. If the song is about the band’s and/or Layne’s struggle with heroin, why is that bad? Or mean somehow Layne doesn’t write as well if it is about heroin? I guess I just don’t get your point. I don’t see what Layne’s addiction to heroin and the fact that he tried hard to kick it but couldn’t and if he or the band writes songs about it, what tgst has anything whatsoever to do with giving Layne credit. Like you feel like Layne writing a song about it is a negative thing. What it is is a very sad thing. Addiction doesn’t discriminate my friend, it can happen to anyone. It has nothing to do with judgement of good or bad which is what your comment about people need to give Layne more credit was saying to me. Layne got a hell of a lot of credit for the incredible singer he was. Am I making any sense to you?!? I tried. Bottom line, singing and writing songs about stuff going on in your life is normal. Addiction isn’t like- oh they are a horrible or bad or not good person because he was addicted to heroin and try as he did, he couldn’t beat it. Addiction unfortunately is one of the many different painful illnesses in life thst not everyone recovers from. Ie., it is a fact of life, not a judgement of the person issue once you reach about 28-30. Ie., you are the one interpreting it as bad Layne! Not others, or set omit seems by you feeling the need to defend their music saying it is not all about heroin. When I’ve never heard such an accusation. But it definitely would not be a true statement to say that some of their songs directly or indirectly were about heroin.
Do you guys think this song has anything to do with the relationship Layne had with his father?
In case you do not know the story, his dad left when Layne was 8 or so. And then a few years later his mom or someone told him that his dad was dead, but Layne did not believe it so he went looking for him, without telling his family.
When he found his dad, he saw he was an addict.
He figured that if he became a rock star that his dad would try and find him and that is exactly what happened. Unfortunately, his dad used him for drugs and drug money and that's about the extent of their relationship.
When Layne was trying to stay clean, his dad would still come by trying to score drugs or money for drugs. This also mirrors what happened with his longtime girlfriend, Demri.
I was just throwing that out there to further the discussion about these lyrics and their meaning.
it begins by explaining how 'friendship' is abused by people who are a-holes, because they would have to not value friendship to defile their own 'friends', also how this had happened to Layne.(alone....)'Sounds of silence" often soothe, because hes all alone 'popping' which is better than being belittled by peers his sort of escape from all the bull, things shift as his mood goes from sad,down, to high as f'in s- and what occurs during this such as: widening pupils-tends to happen only when youve been 'hit' as i like to say, then rapid brown avoid clear blue because base heroin has to be mixed w/ water and an acid so.. water being blue and heroin being brown its obviously his preparation as well. He asks why it has to be 'this way' which is over as in terms of a friendship, how he is 'confused' as to why it must end for worse.the flowers he talks about are his peers moving on, unaffected as he(outcast usually) he watches all this in fear hence wide eyes.-child sings an unclaimed tune- means originality which is obviosly him,Layne,cuz while they hate and destroy lives he can only love all people.Being a lover and not hater as his peers, his innocence(love) spins a cuccoon(barrier) blocking him from those who hate.but to be socially healthy you must reach out, which would mean conforming to others views while exposing his own which would seem off to his 'friends' as they hate rather than love, he grows to see this spread of hate young which brings him pain for the way others live.Then,again with his constant confusion to why they hate unprovoked. The end of the song f-ing clearly goes to show the situation which the broken friendship occured upon how he(layne) has much to look forward to in life but is held down by needy 'friends' how he cant sleep cuz of em and how helping them (even though they suck) will make them see error in their ways and end their hate,also how he knows they never will stay pure or loving in nature.how they must be responsible for their unconditional love and how he is betrayed once again. His fate is changed because he accepts this person through life who only f's him over then feels hate towards them because what theyve done how he never wants to see this person again, wants to start his life anew.
THIS song is to that person that hurt layne and is titled frogs because thats how he felt after the ended friendship he could hardly 'croak' words to anyone being lonely. The end is all fragments with .... dots trailing because this is him rethinking what just happened all stoned which would make one sound tired and sort of frog-like. Basically dont be a jerk because the simplest negative idea can hurt one soo much more than the effort put into it. "Sometimes the only way, to change my day?, is to play..., inside the fray." ME-out
yeah i agree with sicman, this song is about friends fighting.
Or Frogs could refer to the frogs that were outside of the studio when the song was written. Those frogs were eventually dubbed into the begining of the song. Listen closely and you can hear them.
Again, I'm going to agree with Angry Sar. If you guys were true fans drug use wouldn't be something that you'd even consider.
Pupils widen and change their hue Rapid brown avoid clear blue
That at least is about eyes, clearly. Someone's "rapid brown" eyes are avoiding Layne's "clear blue" eyes. Rapid makes me think shifty and deceitful, while clear is obviously honest.
frogs is a super sad song which talks about the struggles in addictions and deppression, as a songwriter i know layne put those feelings and justified his feelings, so you should pay him respect my favorite line here is " what does friend mean to you a word so wrongly abused" this talks about how when your on shit you think everyones your friend and instead of helping they make it worse. r.i.p layne
i will admit that it could very well be that drugs were the cause or at least part of the meaning behind the song in the sense that the song just talks about how hes upset with how his life turned out to put it in simple terms. the very first verse touches upon the fact that he doesnt really have anyone to turn to, he feels alone, that despite all his success and all the "friends" that were with him through all the good times arent really there anymore. At least thats one way to look at it. Then he talks about how he just sorta wrecked his life at an early age, hes grown up to see horrible things and hes only turning 28. So yea in a sense, it might touch upon heroine, but the meaning of this song can relate to someone whose depressed or headed down the wrong path because of something other than drugs. Thats why the songs great, because it doesnt matter what he personally may have done to end up that way.. its the fact that a lot of people, users or not, feel the same way about their own lives.
I really like what you have to say here. I'm not an addict, at least not to something like heroin, yet I know what he is talking about because I made a lot of bad decisions in my life, and I have come to realize just how rare friendship is. I think that his poems/lyrics always mean more than one thing. For him, his situation may be partially caused by heroin, but this is almost incidental. I mean, what caused him to want to take it to begin with? Why was he so addicted? ...
I really like what you have to say here. I'm not an addict, at least not to something like heroin, yet I know what he is talking about because I made a lot of bad decisions in my life, and I have come to realize just how rare friendship is. I think that his poems/lyrics always mean more than one thing. For him, his situation may be partially caused by heroin, but this is almost incidental. I mean, what caused him to want to take it to begin with? Why was he so addicted? I ask myself those questions. I think that you are right more that he is coming to realizations, quite painful ones, about his own life.
I just hate like everything that he was not able to turn his life around. But I am thankful for what we do have from him. RIP Layne.