As a woman who is an equalist/feminist whatever you wanna call it…I don’t find this song offensive at all.
The lyrics are about our uglier impulses as people. It touches on the sexual and psychological satisfaction of overcoming someone who used to have the upper hand on you, or didn’t treat you with respect initially.
It’s not healthy but I don’t think it’s meant to suggest abuse on either side, not necessarily. I think it’s not meant to be taken so seriously that he’s saying: she abused him, now he’s abusing her.
I think she rejected and messed with him, because she didn’t fully appreciate him. Now he’s managed to make her fall for him, and he’s reveling in it…but he definitely seems to be exaggerating in order to gloat about the situation. It’s not that deep. It’s a celebration of the meanness and vanity we all have in us.
Music is about shedding light on all aspects of the human condition, and if we shy away from elements that are strange, or less socially acceptable, art becomes boring and lifeless.
@Emily859 Hmmm, right now I'm sat on my own after my girlfriend left, I was under her thumb, she is a narcissist and denies having said things to me and accuses me of losing her stuff, tells her family that I am a sh*t. I have never been treated like this before. I have known this song for many years but recently it has had some bad press. I re-listened to it and made my mind up, it feels very personal to me.
@Emily859 Hmmm, right now I'm sat on my own after my girlfriend left, I was under her thumb, she is a narcissist and denies having said things to me and accuses me of losing her stuff, tells her family that I am a sh*t. I have never been treated like this before. I have known this song for many years but recently it has had some bad press. I re-listened to it and made my mind up, it feels very personal to me.
I am stuck in the song at the end of verse one. She is apparently...
I am stuck in the song at the end of verse one. She is apparently coming back, the reason she left is because I caught her out. She accused me of doing something I didn't do and then denied accusing me. My masterstroke was that I was dictating to my Mac computer at the time, I was in the bedroom and she was shouting from the lounge. It has happened many times before but I thought, this time I've got her, went back to my dictation and it was still running, I played it back to her. Imagine my surprise when she still denied it, she got very angry and stormed out, well I say stormed out, she spent about an hour on the phone to her son saying I was mentally unstable and shouting at her, which, according to the recording, I was speaking in a calm and measured tone.
One she had finished speaking to one son she called his bother and asked him to pick her up and take her away, then proceeded to take all the pictures off the walls, collect some of her clothes in a bag and a few ornaments, which she left on the floor in the lounge.
One thing I don't do is worry, if she comes back, I will probably not get an apology, as in the 14years we have been together, she hasn't apologised once. If she breaks a glass or drops something it'd my fault for distracting her. If I break or lose something then its my fault. If I make any noise during the day she says, something like "I have had to pause this programme (TV) ten times now!" However if she interrupts me, she gets annoyed at me just hovering my thumb on the pause button and not giving her my undivided attention.
Sincere apologies for using this forum to get some kind of therapy but it feels good to get it out of my system, She actually left on the second anniversary of my sisters death. I am pretty sure it wasn't on purpose but hey ho. Any moderators want to remove this, feel free. I'll just carry on stuck at the end of verse one, as I will not stoop to the level of the male protagonist in the song.
As a woman who is an equalist/feminist whatever you wanna call it…I don’t find this song offensive at all.
The lyrics are about our uglier impulses as people. It touches on the sexual and psychological satisfaction of overcoming someone who used to have the upper hand on you, or didn’t treat you with respect initially.
It’s not healthy but I don’t think it’s meant to suggest abuse on either side, not necessarily. I think it’s not meant to be taken so seriously that he’s saying: she abused him, now he’s abusing her.
I think she rejected and messed with him, because she didn’t fully appreciate him. Now he’s managed to make her fall for him, and he’s reveling in it…but he definitely seems to be exaggerating in order to gloat about the situation. It’s not that deep. It’s a celebration of the meanness and vanity we all have in us.
Music is about shedding light on all aspects of the human condition, and if we shy away from elements that are strange, or less socially acceptable, art becomes boring and lifeless.
[Edit: Grammar mistakes.]
@Emily859 Hmmm, right now I'm sat on my own after my girlfriend left, I was under her thumb, she is a narcissist and denies having said things to me and accuses me of losing her stuff, tells her family that I am a sh*t. I have never been treated like this before. I have known this song for many years but recently it has had some bad press. I re-listened to it and made my mind up, it feels very personal to me.
@Emily859 Hmmm, right now I'm sat on my own after my girlfriend left, I was under her thumb, she is a narcissist and denies having said things to me and accuses me of losing her stuff, tells her family that I am a sh*t. I have never been treated like this before. I have known this song for many years but recently it has had some bad press. I re-listened to it and made my mind up, it feels very personal to me.
I am stuck in the song at the end of verse one. She is apparently...
I am stuck in the song at the end of verse one. She is apparently coming back, the reason she left is because I caught her out. She accused me of doing something I didn't do and then denied accusing me. My masterstroke was that I was dictating to my Mac computer at the time, I was in the bedroom and she was shouting from the lounge. It has happened many times before but I thought, this time I've got her, went back to my dictation and it was still running, I played it back to her. Imagine my surprise when she still denied it, she got very angry and stormed out, well I say stormed out, she spent about an hour on the phone to her son saying I was mentally unstable and shouting at her, which, according to the recording, I was speaking in a calm and measured tone.
One she had finished speaking to one son she called his bother and asked him to pick her up and take her away, then proceeded to take all the pictures off the walls, collect some of her clothes in a bag and a few ornaments, which she left on the floor in the lounge.
One thing I don't do is worry, if she comes back, I will probably not get an apology, as in the 14years we have been together, she hasn't apologised once. If she breaks a glass or drops something it'd my fault for distracting her. If I break or lose something then its my fault. If I make any noise during the day she says, something like "I have had to pause this programme (TV) ten times now!" However if she interrupts me, she gets annoyed at me just hovering my thumb on the pause button and not giving her my undivided attention.
Sincere apologies for using this forum to get some kind of therapy but it feels good to get it out of my system, She actually left on the second anniversary of my sisters death. I am pretty sure it wasn't on purpose but hey ho. Any moderators want to remove this, feel free. I'll just carry on stuck at the end of verse one, as I will not stoop to the level of the male protagonist in the song.