These lyrics make me think of my experience with Christianity. The paradox of trying to die to self and live thru Christ. The "golden mirror" of God that for so many becomes a source of psychogical confusion and dissociation. I had to eclipse this (I.e. deconvert) so that the reflection (made in his image) could be free. It's about the trap of the super ego. The narcisstic god complex. Why is the album called catch THIRTYTHREE (the age that Jesus was crucified.
We know Meshuggah's views on religion aren't favorable but I think it gets dismissed as simple lack of belief, when it's clear from so many of their songs that a main theme of their music is exploring the psychological harm of SPECIFICALLY Christianity.
The whole album Chaosphere is an image of the narcissistic aspects of Christianity. (I refuse to call it the "fsith"
@xander1087 sorry, got posted before I was done editing and I can't delete or edit..
@xander1087 sorry, got posted before I was done editing and I can't delete or edit..
I refuse to call it "the faith" and conflate faith (hope) with Christianity.
I refuse to call it "the faith" and conflate faith (hope) with Christianity.
"Treacherous this deceit, to have and yet lose yourself" / "The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles"
"Treacherous this deceit, to have and yet lose yourself" / "The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles"
Somehow, I feel like this has a lot to do with my experience in the church. But it's also relatable to me in my struggles with addiction and codependency. Christianity is often offered as a solution to these but in reality often paradoxically makes it worse.
Somehow, I feel like this has a lot to do with my experience in the church. But it's also relatable to me in my struggles with addiction and codependency. Christianity is often offered as a solution to these but in reality often paradoxically makes it worse.
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Someone grows up religious, they turn to hedonism to break the shackles of oppressive theology, which in turn is damaging, so they run back to christ, which is of no help as it is merely an illusion, one they are told will replace them if they die to themselves. This is the crux of the album. The manipulative paradoxical mindset that religions handling of our issues causes. Breaking this golden mirror. We are free from the cycles of inner death and rebirth that stagnate us.
I'll end with a quote from Terminal Illusions:
There's no god
Life is a trap
Unlock your mind
TRUST IN YOURSELF
Wake from the grip of the tongue
.....
....
The pressure on humanity
Has risen beyond control"
These lyrics make me think of my experience with Christianity. The paradox of trying to die to self and live thru Christ. The "golden mirror" of God that for so many becomes a source of psychogical confusion and dissociation. I had to eclipse this (I.e. deconvert) so that the reflection (made in his image) could be free. It's about the trap of the super ego. The narcisstic god complex. Why is the album called catch THIRTYTHREE (the age that Jesus was crucified.
We know Meshuggah's views on religion aren't favorable but I think it gets dismissed as simple lack of belief, when it's clear from so many of their songs that a main theme of their music is exploring the psychological harm of SPECIFICALLY Christianity.
The whole album Chaosphere is an image of the narcissistic aspects of Christianity. (I refuse to call it the "fsith"
@xander1087 sorry, got posted before I was done editing and I can't delete or edit..
@xander1087 sorry, got posted before I was done editing and I can't delete or edit..
I refuse to call it "the faith" and conflate faith (hope) with Christianity.
I refuse to call it "the faith" and conflate faith (hope) with Christianity.
"Treacherous this deceit, to have and yet lose yourself" / "The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles"
"Treacherous this deceit, to have and yet lose yourself" / "The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles"
Somehow, I feel like this has a lot to do with my experience in the church. But it's also relatable to me in my struggles with addiction and codependency. Christianity is often offered as a solution to these but in reality often paradoxically makes it worse.
Somehow, I feel like this has a lot to do with my experience in the church. But it's also relatable to me in my struggles with addiction and codependency. Christianity is often offered as a solution to these but in reality often paradoxically makes it worse.
...
Someone grows up religious, they turn to hedonism to break the shackles of oppressive theology, which in turn is damaging, so they run back to christ, which is of no help as it is merely an illusion, one they are told will replace them if they die to themselves. This is the crux of the album. The manipulative paradoxical mindset that religions handling of our issues causes. Breaking this golden mirror. We are free from the cycles of inner death and rebirth that stagnate us.
I'll end with a quote from Terminal Illusions:
There's no god Life is a trap Unlock your mind TRUST IN YOURSELF Wake from the grip of the tongue ..... .... The pressure on humanity Has risen beyond control"