while I can see where you draw the father son connection (Saturn ate his son(s), I do not think this song was specifically written about his father. His father had not passed away when the song was written and Manson has said that he really did not know just how sick his father was. But ultimately, the song definitely ties into his relatiinship with his father and his fathers passing, after the fact.
while I can see where you draw the father son connection (Saturn ate his son(s), I do not think this song was specifically written about his father. His father had not passed away when the song was written and Manson has said that he really did not know just how sick his father was. But ultimately, the song definitely ties into his relatiinship with his father and his fathers passing, after the fact.
In the song Manson sings "I was invited to eat the young", putting himself in Saturn's (the fathers) position. By putting himself in Saturn's position, he is, once again, portraying himself (or the character within the story) as one of the many incarnations of Satan.
As much of Manson work, this song can be interpreted in many ways and has many layers and comcepts of meaning ranging from simplicity to the most complex.
A good place to start is researching into what is the saturnalia, why and how it originated, and the significance of Saturn.
The song is adherent and ties into to the overall main themes that span the entire album, two of which are Satan (The album was set to be titled Say10, but was later changed to heaven upside down) the title, Heaven upside down, first and foremost, is indicative of another strong theme that runs throughout the album - that of being in a state of reversal, backward, or, obviously, upside down.
The concept of Satan within the song, Saturnalia, is implied via Satan's association with Saturn throughout history, within both myth and various religions. Some believe that the planet Saturn is literally Satan incarnate. But of course Satan's association with Saturn in most cases is symbolic, myth, and allegory.
A few notes on Satans association with saturn... Satan and Saturn are literally the same word. One is early Latin, one late latin. Also, Satur is the goat-legged half man half goat 'deity' headed by Pan (a representation of satan) sometimes spelt 'satyr' in English.The Oxford dictionary identifies it as 'Saturos' in Greek. The Saturs and their leader Pan are also known as "Goat-gods".
Just Google Satan and Saturn and you will be overwhelmed with the information provided about Satan's association with Saturn throughout history, which is very interesting.
(Please aee future posts for my explanation of how "being in a state of reversal, is a main theme within this song, the origin of the saturnalia, along with whatever other words I may come up with lol)
The album was a dedication to his deceased parents. Saturnalia was more than likely written about his father.
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while I can see where you draw the father son connection (Saturn ate his son(s), I do not think this song was specifically written about his father. His father had not passed away when the song was written and Manson has said that he really did not know just how sick his father was. But ultimately, the song definitely ties into his relatiinship with his father and his fathers passing, after the fact.
while I can see where you draw the father son connection (Saturn ate his son(s), I do not think this song was specifically written about his father. His father had not passed away when the song was written and Manson has said that he really did not know just how sick his father was. But ultimately, the song definitely ties into his relatiinship with his father and his fathers passing, after the fact.
In the song Manson sings "I was invited to eat the young", putting himself in Saturn's (the fathers) position. By putting himself in Saturn's position, he is, once again, portraying himself (or the character within the story) as one of the many incarnations of Satan.
As much of Manson work, this song can be interpreted in many ways and has many layers and comcepts of meaning ranging from simplicity to the most complex.
A good place to start is researching into what is the saturnalia, why and how it originated, and the significance of Saturn.
The song is adherent and ties into to the overall main themes that span the entire album, two of which are Satan (The album was set to be titled Say10, but was later changed to heaven upside down) the title, Heaven upside down, first and foremost, is indicative of another strong theme that runs throughout the album - that of being in a state of reversal, backward, or, obviously, upside down.
The concept of Satan within the song, Saturnalia, is implied via Satan's association with Saturn throughout history, within both myth and various religions. Some believe that the planet Saturn is literally Satan incarnate. But of course Satan's association with Saturn in most cases is symbolic, myth, and allegory.
A few notes on Satans association with saturn... Satan and Saturn are literally the same word. One is early Latin, one late latin. Also, Satur is the goat-legged half man half goat 'deity' headed by Pan (a representation of satan) sometimes spelt 'satyr' in English.The Oxford dictionary identifies it as 'Saturos' in Greek. The Saturs and their leader Pan are also known as "Goat-gods".
Just Google Satan and Saturn and you will be overwhelmed with the information provided about Satan's association with Saturn throughout history, which is very interesting.
(Please aee future posts for my explanation of how "being in a state of reversal, is a main theme within this song, the origin of the saturnalia, along with whatever other words I may come up with lol)