Monsterosity makes me think about this one....Maybe it's about himself? Afterall, he is a celebrity and has millions of fans, some of whom have changed their lives/views/perspectives because of what he has said. And it is possible that this "fame" has changed him, even though he doesn't want to admit it and never meant for it to. Perhaps it has caused him to question who he really is; this "celebrity" figure/image that the world ONLY sees him as, or the other side, or most likely sides, of him that he does not show the world. I mean, it could actually be a more philosophical question, because it has been argued that a person's true "identity" or true "self" is whatever the world perceives it as being. For example, if the everyone looks at the same object and everyone agrees that this object is a rock, then it must be a rock. It's the same thing with people. If everyone thinks some person is an asshole, then (s)he is. It points to the question of who's perspective is more accurate. If his view of himself is different from the world's view of him, then who is right? Is he the one that is disillusioned, or is the world wrong about him? And actually, technically speaking, it's more logical or more likely that only one person is wrong (himself) and not a million other people (the world). The "tide" and the "river" and the "piper" are the fans. He goes wherever his fans carry him. He certainly does seem to be a master of elocution. And I think he's saying that he questions his humility and doesn't view himself as being saintly (although he is worshiped as one and has millions of "fans" who would disagree). I remember he called himself a "famous, pretentious lead singer" in one statement referring to how difficult it is for Billy Howerdel to have to deal with that, and how that kind of lead to APC not doing much and MJK telling Billy to move on and do his own thing. The "carcass" is his former self, perhaps his "real" self. The "pounding waves of adoration" refer to how his "fame" tempts him to change. All of the attention and adoration he receives from his fans tempts him to want to well, be pretentious or sell-out, because this adoration and attention is rewarding for him and he doesn't want to lose it, but at the same time he wants to be true to himself. I think he sees signs of his old self, or "true" self from time to time, but it isn't enough for him to convince himself that he hasn't changed (i.e. sold-out). The "weight of adoration" again refers to the pressure he feels from his fans because the love him soooo much and he doesn't want to disappoint them or let them down. The "bloated carcass" cripples him means that because he is trying to hold on to how he was and how he wants to be it stifles him or holds him back from giving his fans what they want. And actually, I think I might have just changed my mind. Maybe the "carcass" isn't his old self, but his projected self, his celebrity image, and he's calling it a carcass because it's fake and somewhat lifeless because he may not be as sincere about things as he seems. I don't know, but that's what it makes me think.
I completely agree with your interpretation. I was searching though the others looking for someone as like-minded as myself, and bingo. It hit me one day while listening: HE'S the one crippled underneath the pounding waves of adoration. He feels so much pressure from his fan base, and I feel sorry for him.
I completely agree with your interpretation. I was searching though the others looking for someone as like-minded as myself, and bingo. It hit me one day while listening: HE'S the one crippled underneath the pounding waves of adoration. He feels so much pressure from his fan base, and I feel sorry for him.
@Androgyne I think you nailed it on the head. But I don't think the lyrics are accurate. "It's no easier mission" sounds more like "It's no easy OMISSION". If I'm right, it gives your interpretation more meaning. The person admitting they're lying to themselves by "holding on to how I picture you". It's saying the image I have of you is wrong because I refuse to accept how you've changed or how you're different.
@Androgyne I think you nailed it on the head. But I don't think the lyrics are accurate. "It's no easier mission" sounds more like "It's no easy OMISSION". If I'm right, it gives your interpretation more meaning. The person admitting they're lying to themselves by "holding on to how I picture you". It's saying the image I have of you is wrong because I refuse to accept how you've changed or how you're different.
Likewise, I hear "moving in and out of THOSE shadows" in the first line, and that, again, puts this song...
Likewise, I hear "moving in and out of THOSE shadows" in the first line, and that, again, puts this song in a first person perspective as someone observing MJK as he frequently would sing obscured by shadows, or hiding his face in some way.
@Androgyne you have a very interesting mind it's hard to find people who want to talk about reality as it is I love your insight on this song I can't explain how the song as a whole makes me feel but I feel exactly how he feels in this moment
@Androgyne you have a very interesting mind it's hard to find people who want to talk about reality as it is I love your insight on this song I can't explain how the song as a whole makes me feel but I feel exactly how he feels in this moment
Monsterosity makes me think about this one....Maybe it's about himself? Afterall, he is a celebrity and has millions of fans, some of whom have changed their lives/views/perspectives because of what he has said. And it is possible that this "fame" has changed him, even though he doesn't want to admit it and never meant for it to. Perhaps it has caused him to question who he really is; this "celebrity" figure/image that the world ONLY sees him as, or the other side, or most likely sides, of him that he does not show the world. I mean, it could actually be a more philosophical question, because it has been argued that a person's true "identity" or true "self" is whatever the world perceives it as being. For example, if the everyone looks at the same object and everyone agrees that this object is a rock, then it must be a rock. It's the same thing with people. If everyone thinks some person is an asshole, then (s)he is. It points to the question of who's perspective is more accurate. If his view of himself is different from the world's view of him, then who is right? Is he the one that is disillusioned, or is the world wrong about him? And actually, technically speaking, it's more logical or more likely that only one person is wrong (himself) and not a million other people (the world). The "tide" and the "river" and the "piper" are the fans. He goes wherever his fans carry him. He certainly does seem to be a master of elocution. And I think he's saying that he questions his humility and doesn't view himself as being saintly (although he is worshiped as one and has millions of "fans" who would disagree). I remember he called himself a "famous, pretentious lead singer" in one statement referring to how difficult it is for Billy Howerdel to have to deal with that, and how that kind of lead to APC not doing much and MJK telling Billy to move on and do his own thing. The "carcass" is his former self, perhaps his "real" self. The "pounding waves of adoration" refer to how his "fame" tempts him to change. All of the attention and adoration he receives from his fans tempts him to want to well, be pretentious or sell-out, because this adoration and attention is rewarding for him and he doesn't want to lose it, but at the same time he wants to be true to himself. I think he sees signs of his old self, or "true" self from time to time, but it isn't enough for him to convince himself that he hasn't changed (i.e. sold-out). The "weight of adoration" again refers to the pressure he feels from his fans because the love him soooo much and he doesn't want to disappoint them or let them down. The "bloated carcass" cripples him means that because he is trying to hold on to how he was and how he wants to be it stifles him or holds him back from giving his fans what they want. And actually, I think I might have just changed my mind. Maybe the "carcass" isn't his old self, but his projected self, his celebrity image, and he's calling it a carcass because it's fake and somewhat lifeless because he may not be as sincere about things as he seems. I don't know, but that's what it makes me think.
I find you're interpretation of the "carcass" interesting.
I find you're interpretation of the "carcass" interesting.
I completely agree with your interpretation. I was searching though the others looking for someone as like-minded as myself, and bingo. It hit me one day while listening: HE'S the one crippled underneath the pounding waves of adoration. He feels so much pressure from his fan base, and I feel sorry for him.
I completely agree with your interpretation. I was searching though the others looking for someone as like-minded as myself, and bingo. It hit me one day while listening: HE'S the one crippled underneath the pounding waves of adoration. He feels so much pressure from his fan base, and I feel sorry for him.
I like the idea of the song being about MJK thru the eyes of a fan. It makes more sense that way.
I like the idea of the song being about MJK thru the eyes of a fan. It makes more sense that way.
@Androgyne I think you nailed it on the head. But I don't think the lyrics are accurate. "It's no easier mission" sounds more like "It's no easy OMISSION". If I'm right, it gives your interpretation more meaning. The person admitting they're lying to themselves by "holding on to how I picture you". It's saying the image I have of you is wrong because I refuse to accept how you've changed or how you're different.
@Androgyne I think you nailed it on the head. But I don't think the lyrics are accurate. "It's no easier mission" sounds more like "It's no easy OMISSION". If I'm right, it gives your interpretation more meaning. The person admitting they're lying to themselves by "holding on to how I picture you". It's saying the image I have of you is wrong because I refuse to accept how you've changed or how you're different.
Likewise, I hear "moving in and out of THOSE shadows" in the first line, and that, again, puts this song...
Likewise, I hear "moving in and out of THOSE shadows" in the first line, and that, again, puts this song in a first person perspective as someone observing MJK as he frequently would sing obscured by shadows, or hiding his face in some way.
@Androgyne you have a very interesting mind it's hard to find people who want to talk about reality as it is I love your insight on this song I can't explain how the song as a whole makes me feel but I feel exactly how he feels in this moment
@Androgyne you have a very interesting mind it's hard to find people who want to talk about reality as it is I love your insight on this song I can't explain how the song as a whole makes me feel but I feel exactly how he feels in this moment