Can't believe nobody has commented on this song! As a 15 year old I wa well into this sort of stuff, still makes me smile when I hear it now. I'm guessing it's an early eco protest song. Not sure if Jones is religious, but I think it's about god creating the earth and leaving us to it for a million years - his 'hoping we find it' is meant to be love, peace and a 'heaven on earth'. Instead 'she', meaning us, built our elaborate homes (referring to the industrial revolution) and found a game to play (capitalism). As 'part of the game, she completely forgot where she hidden herself and spent the rest of the time trying to find the parts' - basically, we've f*cked the planet up to such a degree that there's no turning back now, it's too late. This in 1984 as well...scary. The final line to me is about God coming back, seeing what's happened and deciding to wipe the slate clean. I'm not religious, so I'm not preaching here, but I can certainly empathise with what Jones is saying here. Oh, and by the way, a beautiful, moving piece of music, stirs the soul and I would never, ever try to hit those high notes in company!
You are wise as you are sharp, friend, wow im 45 an eighties kid, and you? the eighties rule totally, theres nothing like them, from early cool music decades ago the eighties brought it all to fruition, theres remnants in the nineties and throughout the two thousands today, but sparse, weak, lacking and copying from the past, just rehashing it etc those assholes, that stuff is sacred, you cant touch the eighties, if any fuck was to ever try to make a 'breakfast club 2' id personally desire to kill them with my bare hands, tv, movies, music-EVERYTHING was the...
You are wise as you are sharp, friend, wow im 45 an eighties kid, and you? the eighties rule totally, theres nothing like them, from early cool music decades ago the eighties brought it all to fruition, theres remnants in the nineties and throughout the two thousands today, but sparse, weak, lacking and copying from the past, just rehashing it etc those assholes, that stuff is sacred, you cant touch the eighties, if any fuck was to ever try to make a 'breakfast club 2' id personally desire to kill them with my bare hands, tv, movies, music-EVERYTHING was the BEST, in the eighties, and its all timeless, relevant to today and always, despite the total fuckup times we live in now, howard jones like all eighties, is deep woven with simple at the same time, you explained this song very well, you're a very insightful person, and I appreciate it so much, 80s everything is so simple woven with deep and profound that to understand the profound you have to understand the simple and vice versa, they beautifully intertwine in everything eighties-music-tv-movies-a piece of shit on the ground - if it happened in the eighties, it is simple and profound at the same time, something the sheeple of today cant and dont understand if it was carved on their heart-you can't make anyone 'get it' either they do or they dont, and true eighties people got it all, while today's sheeple call good evil and evil good-this rank crass shit of today -tv, life, movies, so called music - EVERYTHING is SURREAL and nothing short of living in hell day after day, after living in the incredible eighties, its...theres not words for how fucked up it is today and been since then, since cool music's inception throughout history the eighties pretty much ended it-cept the assholes today are straining, gasping at anything to try to 'force the music' that is the ultimate taboo and damnation not only in music but anything really, you can't manufacture anything, it either is natural or its not. Today its the total complete opposite and thats why the majority of these 'people' are robots-no creativity, no nothing. Well, I can relate to this song and to howard jones, i have for years like most eighties TRUE ARTISTS, he seems like a christian but says it without directly saying it-like so many fake 'christians' do.....sure, you can share Jesus directly, its fine if done in love, sincerity, but thats rare what with all the major bullshit posing as 'christian' today, Jesus will just save somebody or he wont, I'm a born again believer in Jesus since age 6 or 7 and im 45 now, and God has been incredible throughout my entire life til now and i know he will continue to be-he has shown me how he works so incredibly through ways people can never fathom, imagine-he is so far beyond man's ways, it truly is deep deception and arrogance for men to think they know the ways of God, which brings me to howard jones, he can say something som powerful in his music without ever uttering a word, this is what people dont understand, Jesus reaches; touches people in so many different ways-there's no set formula-like men think-and I think Jesus must have touched you in some way to see the beauty of this song and explain it the way you did-you know-its not far off at all from the biblical account, see, the bible says the 'letter' kills, its the Spirit that gives life-example: some boring lecture by someone as opposed to giving hugging loving sharing with people-love is love in action or it is not love at all, but just boasting in oneself. Lastly dear friend, after all you explained, believe it or not, I still am puzzled after all this, why would howard jones name this song 'Hide and Seek'? whats your take on that as applied to your explanation of this song?
Thank you so much and I hope Jesus reveals himself to you as the only way hope truth and life and that you repent of your sins and receive Jesus into your heart and become new in him!
Love in Jesus,
David cz
at: emailforyou11@gmail.com
@Bazob1 - I am afraid you are quite far off the mark here with your explanation. The song is about the origin of the Universe, but whereas you have "Christianicized" it, it is actually about the origin of the Universe, from the Buddhist and Advaita Vedanta (Hinduism) perspective. The "She" is not humanity. Both the "He" and the "She" are the same original being (pure consciousness, Brahman). He uses He in the first verse and She in the second verse to defeat the duality of gender. The point of the song is that everything is Brahman; everything is...
@Bazob1 - I am afraid you are quite far off the mark here with your explanation. The song is about the origin of the Universe, but whereas you have "Christianicized" it, it is actually about the origin of the Universe, from the Buddhist and Advaita Vedanta (Hinduism) perspective. The "She" is not humanity. Both the "He" and the "She" are the same original being (pure consciousness, Brahman). He uses He in the first verse and She in the second verse to defeat the duality of gender. The point of the song is that everything is Brahman; everything is the original. If you want to put it into Christian language, "everything is God" and "God is in everything" and everything is "made of God" - there is no other substance in existance. So the original being makes his/her creation and then "loses herself in it". She extends her consciousness into finite objects (all living things) that forget their true nature. The meaning of life is to remember who one is; not a seperate 'person', ego, or soul, but the one. At the time of writing, Jones was (and still is) exploring and practicing Buddhism. This story is the root of Buddhism. We are all inter-dependent and connected, because we are all "it".
@Bazob1 Yes I think we're on the right track @Davidqyp it's always best to control one's ego and avoid being a religious zealot. Not a good look.
It might be true that Howard Jones had Buddhist thoughts in his heart in 1986 but according to this interview in 2022 he only embraced it thoroughly in 1996. https://unlockingconnecticut.com/2022/02/12-questions-with-howard-jones/
@Bazob1 Yes I think we're on the right track @Davidqyp it's always best to control one's ego and avoid being a religious zealot. Not a good look.
It might be true that Howard Jones had Buddhist thoughts in his heart in 1986 but according to this interview in 2022 he only embraced it thoroughly in 1996. https://unlockingconnecticut.com/2022/02/12-questions-with-howard-jones/
Can't believe nobody has commented on this song! As a 15 year old I wa well into this sort of stuff, still makes me smile when I hear it now. I'm guessing it's an early eco protest song. Not sure if Jones is religious, but I think it's about god creating the earth and leaving us to it for a million years - his 'hoping we find it' is meant to be love, peace and a 'heaven on earth'. Instead 'she', meaning us, built our elaborate homes (referring to the industrial revolution) and found a game to play (capitalism). As 'part of the game, she completely forgot where she hidden herself and spent the rest of the time trying to find the parts' - basically, we've f*cked the planet up to such a degree that there's no turning back now, it's too late. This in 1984 as well...scary. The final line to me is about God coming back, seeing what's happened and deciding to wipe the slate clean. I'm not religious, so I'm not preaching here, but I can certainly empathise with what Jones is saying here. Oh, and by the way, a beautiful, moving piece of music, stirs the soul and I would never, ever try to hit those high notes in company!
You are wise as you are sharp, friend, wow im 45 an eighties kid, and you? the eighties rule totally, theres nothing like them, from early cool music decades ago the eighties brought it all to fruition, theres remnants in the nineties and throughout the two thousands today, but sparse, weak, lacking and copying from the past, just rehashing it etc those assholes, that stuff is sacred, you cant touch the eighties, if any fuck was to ever try to make a 'breakfast club 2' id personally desire to kill them with my bare hands, tv, movies, music-EVERYTHING was the...
You are wise as you are sharp, friend, wow im 45 an eighties kid, and you? the eighties rule totally, theres nothing like them, from early cool music decades ago the eighties brought it all to fruition, theres remnants in the nineties and throughout the two thousands today, but sparse, weak, lacking and copying from the past, just rehashing it etc those assholes, that stuff is sacred, you cant touch the eighties, if any fuck was to ever try to make a 'breakfast club 2' id personally desire to kill them with my bare hands, tv, movies, music-EVERYTHING was the BEST, in the eighties, and its all timeless, relevant to today and always, despite the total fuckup times we live in now, howard jones like all eighties, is deep woven with simple at the same time, you explained this song very well, you're a very insightful person, and I appreciate it so much, 80s everything is so simple woven with deep and profound that to understand the profound you have to understand the simple and vice versa, they beautifully intertwine in everything eighties-music-tv-movies-a piece of shit on the ground - if it happened in the eighties, it is simple and profound at the same time, something the sheeple of today cant and dont understand if it was carved on their heart-you can't make anyone 'get it' either they do or they dont, and true eighties people got it all, while today's sheeple call good evil and evil good-this rank crass shit of today -tv, life, movies, so called music - EVERYTHING is SURREAL and nothing short of living in hell day after day, after living in the incredible eighties, its...theres not words for how fucked up it is today and been since then, since cool music's inception throughout history the eighties pretty much ended it-cept the assholes today are straining, gasping at anything to try to 'force the music' that is the ultimate taboo and damnation not only in music but anything really, you can't manufacture anything, it either is natural or its not. Today its the total complete opposite and thats why the majority of these 'people' are robots-no creativity, no nothing. Well, I can relate to this song and to howard jones, i have for years like most eighties TRUE ARTISTS, he seems like a christian but says it without directly saying it-like so many fake 'christians' do.....sure, you can share Jesus directly, its fine if done in love, sincerity, but thats rare what with all the major bullshit posing as 'christian' today, Jesus will just save somebody or he wont, I'm a born again believer in Jesus since age 6 or 7 and im 45 now, and God has been incredible throughout my entire life til now and i know he will continue to be-he has shown me how he works so incredibly through ways people can never fathom, imagine-he is so far beyond man's ways, it truly is deep deception and arrogance for men to think they know the ways of God, which brings me to howard jones, he can say something som powerful in his music without ever uttering a word, this is what people dont understand, Jesus reaches; touches people in so many different ways-there's no set formula-like men think-and I think Jesus must have touched you in some way to see the beauty of this song and explain it the way you did-you know-its not far off at all from the biblical account, see, the bible says the 'letter' kills, its the Spirit that gives life-example: some boring lecture by someone as opposed to giving hugging loving sharing with people-love is love in action or it is not love at all, but just boasting in oneself. Lastly dear friend, after all you explained, believe it or not, I still am puzzled after all this, why would howard jones name this song 'Hide and Seek'? whats your take on that as applied to your explanation of this song? Thank you so much and I hope Jesus reveals himself to you as the only way hope truth and life and that you repent of your sins and receive Jesus into your heart and become new in him! Love in Jesus, David cz at: emailforyou11@gmail.com
@Bazob1 - I am afraid you are quite far off the mark here with your explanation. The song is about the origin of the Universe, but whereas you have "Christianicized" it, it is actually about the origin of the Universe, from the Buddhist and Advaita Vedanta (Hinduism) perspective. The "She" is not humanity. Both the "He" and the "She" are the same original being (pure consciousness, Brahman). He uses He in the first verse and She in the second verse to defeat the duality of gender. The point of the song is that everything is Brahman; everything is...
@Bazob1 - I am afraid you are quite far off the mark here with your explanation. The song is about the origin of the Universe, but whereas you have "Christianicized" it, it is actually about the origin of the Universe, from the Buddhist and Advaita Vedanta (Hinduism) perspective. The "She" is not humanity. Both the "He" and the "She" are the same original being (pure consciousness, Brahman). He uses He in the first verse and She in the second verse to defeat the duality of gender. The point of the song is that everything is Brahman; everything is the original. If you want to put it into Christian language, "everything is God" and "God is in everything" and everything is "made of God" - there is no other substance in existance. So the original being makes his/her creation and then "loses herself in it". She extends her consciousness into finite objects (all living things) that forget their true nature. The meaning of life is to remember who one is; not a seperate 'person', ego, or soul, but the one. At the time of writing, Jones was (and still is) exploring and practicing Buddhism. This story is the root of Buddhism. We are all inter-dependent and connected, because we are all "it".
@Bazob1 Yes I think we're on the right track @Davidqyp it's always best to control one's ego and avoid being a religious zealot. Not a good look. It might be true that Howard Jones had Buddhist thoughts in his heart in 1986 but according to this interview in 2022 he only embraced it thoroughly in 1996. https://unlockingconnecticut.com/2022/02/12-questions-with-howard-jones/
@Bazob1 Yes I think we're on the right track @Davidqyp it's always best to control one's ego and avoid being a religious zealot. Not a good look. It might be true that Howard Jones had Buddhist thoughts in his heart in 1986 but according to this interview in 2022 he only embraced it thoroughly in 1996. https://unlockingconnecticut.com/2022/02/12-questions-with-howard-jones/