Why would it be about rape? I think it's quite clear that the line "well, you didn't stop/when I told you to stop" just describes how they had unprotected sex and how they tried to avoid pregnancy by not having him come inside of her. She told him to pull out - he didn't. I'm quite sure that's all since Emmy The Great has many describtive, yet simple, lines like this one in many of her songs. It's a song about a woman who suspects herself of being pregnant which in some way makes her happy because it would give her en occassion to be with a man who she clearly cares about more than he cares for her.
"Well, I am a woman
you know I'm a woman
But before I met you
I was only a kid.
You know there were moments
when you thought you would rape me
you wanted to take me
So you did."
"Well, I am a woman
you know I'm a woman
But before I met you
I was only a kid.
You know there were moments
when you thought you would rape me
you wanted to take me
So you did."
Maybe you're hearing "rape me" as "break me" in that line. Either way, I think you need to retract saying the lines are clear.
Maybe you're hearing "rape me" as "break me" in that line. Either way, I think you need to retract saying the lines are clear.
You said: "I think it's quite clear that the line "well, you didn't stop/when I told you to stop" just describes how they...
You said: "I think it's quite clear that the line "well, you didn't stop/when I told you to stop" just describes how they had unprotected sex and how they tried to avoid pregnancy by not having him come inside of her."
You are extrapolating a very complex scene from the line "you didn't stop when I told you to stop." And I think you are wrong. That line is not clear in the way you interpret it. There is no talk about protection, there is no talk about the spilling of seed. Why would a simple mistake of not pulling out, as you interpret, make her a woman? Change her from a baby to a woman?
"no means no" is a very common phrase. Stop means stop. In most other contexts would refer to rape. And even in your supposed scenario, "It's not rape, she just told him to stop screwing her because she knew he was about to come." Well if she said stop, and he didn't, then that is rape, bro.
Statistical research on the subject often find one in four girls is raped in their lifetime. I've also seen one in five.
There is one article on the matter. There are more.
The thought that she was unaware of the connotations and associations she was messing with, seems absurd. I find it unlikely one writes a song that a significant portion of people say, "Hey that's about date rape." and then one keeps it as is, and says, screw it if people think my boyfriend raped me.
As pointed out by others, this alludes to a specific person she dated. If this isn't about rape, she's an asshole because people know who this is about.
Here is a review of the album that also mentions that the song is about rape.
That the song is clear, seems a stretch of the imagination given the evidence. It's a poem, it's open to interpretation, you can read into a line any way you wish to muster. This is mostly to point out that people are confused.
Rape makes no sense in relation to the rest of the song. Why would she WANT to be pregnant in order to keep him in her life? There aren't that many people out there that want to be pregnant with their rapists baby. It's about how she sorta wishes she was pregnant so the man she loves would have a reason to stay with her. and it's definitely 'break me'.
Rape makes no sense in relation to the rest of the song. Why would she WANT to be pregnant in order to keep him in her life? There aren't that many people out there that want to be pregnant with their rapists baby. It's about how she sorta wishes she was pregnant so the man she loves would have a reason to stay with her. and it's definitely 'break me'.
Why would it be about rape? I think it's quite clear that the line "well, you didn't stop/when I told you to stop" just describes how they had unprotected sex and how they tried to avoid pregnancy by not having him come inside of her. She told him to pull out - he didn't. I'm quite sure that's all since Emmy The Great has many describtive, yet simple, lines like this one in many of her songs. It's a song about a woman who suspects herself of being pregnant which in some way makes her happy because it would give her en occassion to be with a man who she clearly cares about more than he cares for her.
This above is missing a few lines.
This above is missing a few lines.
"Well, I am a woman you know I'm a woman But before I met you I was only a kid. You know there were moments when you thought you would rape me you wanted to take me So you did."
"Well, I am a woman you know I'm a woman But before I met you I was only a kid. You know there were moments when you thought you would rape me you wanted to take me So you did."
Maybe you're hearing "rape me" as "break me" in that line. Either way, I think you need to retract saying the lines are clear.
Maybe you're hearing "rape me" as "break me" in that line. Either way, I think you need to retract saying the lines are clear.
You said: "I think it's quite clear that the line "well, you didn't stop/when I told you to stop" just describes how they...
You said: "I think it's quite clear that the line "well, you didn't stop/when I told you to stop" just describes how they had unprotected sex and how they tried to avoid pregnancy by not having him come inside of her."
You are extrapolating a very complex scene from the line "you didn't stop when I told you to stop." And I think you are wrong. That line is not clear in the way you interpret it. There is no talk about protection, there is no talk about the spilling of seed. Why would a simple mistake of not pulling out, as you interpret, make her a woman? Change her from a baby to a woman?
"no means no" is a very common phrase. Stop means stop. In most other contexts would refer to rape. And even in your supposed scenario, "It's not rape, she just told him to stop screwing her because she knew he was about to come." Well if she said stop, and he didn't, then that is rape, bro.
Statistical research on the subject often find one in four girls is raped in their lifetime. I've also seen one in five.
http://aspiringeconomist.com/index.php/2009/09/11/rape-statistics-1-in-4/
There is one article on the matter. There are more.
The thought that she was unaware of the connotations and associations she was messing with, seems absurd. I find it unlikely one writes a song that a significant portion of people say, "Hey that's about date rape." and then one keeps it as is, and says, screw it if people think my boyfriend raped me.
As pointed out by others, this alludes to a specific person she dated. If this isn't about rape, she's an asshole because people know who this is about.
Here is a review of the album that also mentions that the song is about rape.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jun/07/emmy-the-great-review
That the song is clear, seems a stretch of the imagination given the evidence. It's a poem, it's open to interpretation, you can read into a line any way you wish to muster. This is mostly to point out that people are confused.
Rape makes no sense in relation to the rest of the song. Why would she WANT to be pregnant in order to keep him in her life? There aren't that many people out there that want to be pregnant with their rapists baby. It's about how she sorta wishes she was pregnant so the man she loves would have a reason to stay with her. and it's definitely 'break me'.
Rape makes no sense in relation to the rest of the song. Why would she WANT to be pregnant in order to keep him in her life? There aren't that many people out there that want to be pregnant with their rapists baby. It's about how she sorta wishes she was pregnant so the man she loves would have a reason to stay with her. and it's definitely 'break me'.