I really do not think that this song has much to do with religion, definitely not anything to do with the sexual abuse that has come from priests... Definitely a political statement; that the masses blindly follow political leaders without questioning their lies. This is obviously why they get elected in the first place... "Your pretty-boy, pretty-face dolled up again A star for us to adore" cant help but bring about thoughts in my mind of Obama, as he has spent more time becoming the worlds biggest celebrity and sweet talking the masses to convince them that what he is doing is whats good for them. This is the political "game" I think; getting elected. However he ought to be doing more as his decisions arent just a game to the people who are effected by them.
Basically I think its asking the masses to wake up, similar to Goliath, and realize the system that they are perpetrating but do not seem to see even though its staring them in the face.
No offence, by all mean you can take what ever personal meaning you want from it but from the bands perspective this song is most DEFINITLY about religion.
No offence, by all mean you can take what ever personal meaning you want from it but from the bands perspective this song is most DEFINITLY about religion.
Almost every line has some sort of religious reference:
"Awake in this womb with a crown stinging my self" - Jesus in the womb with his crown of thorns...
"The rules they don't explain, so why do we obey?" - Religion (particularly Christianity) is full of rules that have no logical reasoning to them. Ian is asking why people would follow so blindly.
"A star for us to adore" - Christianity, Judaism, Ancient greek, roman...
Almost every line has some sort of religious reference:
"Awake in this womb with a crown stinging my self" - Jesus in the womb with his crown of thorns...
"The rules they don't explain, so why do we obey?" - Religion (particularly Christianity) is full of rules that have no logical reasoning to them. Ian is asking why people would follow so blindly.
"A star for us to adore" - Christianity, Judaism, Ancient greek, roman and egyptian religions are all Sun cults, idolising our star Sol as a God.
"I spit in the mouth of your God, who whispers in the minds of the children you've been sold again" - Clearly a "Fuck You" message to institutional religion who feeds off parents 'selling' their children to the church who are then inducted into the religion before they are old enough to thing for themselves and as a result follow blindly without thought.
"Set fire to the Hive as you flee" - A message to those who have escaped religions grasp telling them to tear down religious ideology as they leave it's midst so as to help others escape.
"It's fiction, a faceless illusion" - religion is fiction... no further explanation needed. Regardless of what priests and rabies tell us, there has never been a physical 'face' to the belief that they spew.
You've been had again" - Religion is a trick, just like any other con.
"You swing this wrecking ball, A violent pendulum, To hypnotize them all." - A reference to Holy war, Jihad. Religion hypnotises it's followers into hating people outside it's midst causing terror and destruction in the name of a lie.
The music video's depiction of Pyramids also suports the religion hypothesis as the pyramids are a religious symbol of the Ancient Egyptians and more recently Catholicism (Four sided pyramids can be found all over the Vatican).
I'm not saying that the song doesn't touch on politics, by all mean, religion is in it's own right a form of politics, just simply without the democracy.
That is the 'Game' Ian speaks of, the game of power over the mind between free-thinkers and the monarchical religion.
If you've listen to the whole Sound Awake album, you will realise that EVERY song is in someway about the tierney of religion and it's inevitable downfall, why would this one (so full of references) be about politics?
Also, in the incredibly unlikely case that I am completely wrong and this song is about politics, I highly doubt a bunch of Aussie blokes from Perth would write such a deep song about american politics. We have our own retards in power to write songs about.
It is about religion BUT it is referring to politics as well. It is a song against institutionalized drone mentality. Many idealogies incorporate religion with politics, though it's not always as simple as 'if you are Christian then you are a conservative and vice versa (I actually know a highly conservative atheist and I was a liberal Christian for brief period of time.) It is a 'Fuck the System' message. Both parties do it, it's not just Obama-it's all part of a political game that our politicians play to fool the sheep. Truth is that the two parties may differ...
It is about religion BUT it is referring to politics as well. It is a song against institutionalized drone mentality. Many idealogies incorporate religion with politics, though it's not always as simple as 'if you are Christian then you are a conservative and vice versa (I actually know a highly conservative atheist and I was a liberal Christian for brief period of time.) It is a 'Fuck the System' message. Both parties do it, it's not just Obama-it's all part of a political game that our politicians play to fool the sheep. Truth is that the two parties may differ drastically in some ways but beneath their shiny exterior, there are dreadful similarities and hypocrisies-look at what they actually do rather than what they sell you.
@TheFifthHorseman I think the duel meaning is pretty obvious given the lines: "Politics, religion, your vision's the same
You played us, as both a cancer and a cure".
@TheFifthHorseman I think the duel meaning is pretty obvious given the lines: "Politics, religion, your vision's the same
You played us, as both a cancer and a cure".
You could probably summarize the entire song with those 2 lines (for the most part).
You could probably summarize the entire song with those 2 lines (for the most part).
I really do not think that this song has much to do with religion, definitely not anything to do with the sexual abuse that has come from priests... Definitely a political statement; that the masses blindly follow political leaders without questioning their lies. This is obviously why they get elected in the first place... "Your pretty-boy, pretty-face dolled up again A star for us to adore" cant help but bring about thoughts in my mind of Obama, as he has spent more time becoming the worlds biggest celebrity and sweet talking the masses to convince them that what he is doing is whats good for them. This is the political "game" I think; getting elected. However he ought to be doing more as his decisions arent just a game to the people who are effected by them.
Basically I think its asking the masses to wake up, similar to Goliath, and realize the system that they are perpetrating but do not seem to see even though its staring them in the face.
No offence, by all mean you can take what ever personal meaning you want from it but from the bands perspective this song is most DEFINITLY about religion.
No offence, by all mean you can take what ever personal meaning you want from it but from the bands perspective this song is most DEFINITLY about religion.
Almost every line has some sort of religious reference: "Awake in this womb with a crown stinging my self" - Jesus in the womb with his crown of thorns... "The rules they don't explain, so why do we obey?" - Religion (particularly Christianity) is full of rules that have no logical reasoning to them. Ian is asking why people would follow so blindly. "A star for us to adore" - Christianity, Judaism, Ancient greek, roman...
Almost every line has some sort of religious reference: "Awake in this womb with a crown stinging my self" - Jesus in the womb with his crown of thorns... "The rules they don't explain, so why do we obey?" - Religion (particularly Christianity) is full of rules that have no logical reasoning to them. Ian is asking why people would follow so blindly. "A star for us to adore" - Christianity, Judaism, Ancient greek, roman and egyptian religions are all Sun cults, idolising our star Sol as a God. "I spit in the mouth of your God, who whispers in the minds of the children you've been sold again" - Clearly a "Fuck You" message to institutional religion who feeds off parents 'selling' their children to the church who are then inducted into the religion before they are old enough to thing for themselves and as a result follow blindly without thought. "Set fire to the Hive as you flee" - A message to those who have escaped religions grasp telling them to tear down religious ideology as they leave it's midst so as to help others escape. "It's fiction, a faceless illusion" - religion is fiction... no further explanation needed. Regardless of what priests and rabies tell us, there has never been a physical 'face' to the belief that they spew. You've been had again" - Religion is a trick, just like any other con. "You swing this wrecking ball, A violent pendulum, To hypnotize them all." - A reference to Holy war, Jihad. Religion hypnotises it's followers into hating people outside it's midst causing terror and destruction in the name of a lie. The music video's depiction of Pyramids also suports the religion hypothesis as the pyramids are a religious symbol of the Ancient Egyptians and more recently Catholicism (Four sided pyramids can be found all over the Vatican).
I'm not saying that the song doesn't touch on politics, by all mean, religion is in it's own right a form of politics, just simply without the democracy. That is the 'Game' Ian speaks of, the game of power over the mind between free-thinkers and the monarchical religion.
If you've listen to the whole Sound Awake album, you will realise that EVERY song is in someway about the tierney of religion and it's inevitable downfall, why would this one (so full of references) be about politics?
Also, in the incredibly unlikely case that I am completely wrong and this song is about politics, I highly doubt a bunch of Aussie blokes from Perth would write such a deep song about american politics. We have our own retards in power to write songs about.
It is about religion BUT it is referring to politics as well. It is a song against institutionalized drone mentality. Many idealogies incorporate religion with politics, though it's not always as simple as 'if you are Christian then you are a conservative and vice versa (I actually know a highly conservative atheist and I was a liberal Christian for brief period of time.) It is a 'Fuck the System' message. Both parties do it, it's not just Obama-it's all part of a political game that our politicians play to fool the sheep. Truth is that the two parties may differ...
It is about religion BUT it is referring to politics as well. It is a song against institutionalized drone mentality. Many idealogies incorporate religion with politics, though it's not always as simple as 'if you are Christian then you are a conservative and vice versa (I actually know a highly conservative atheist and I was a liberal Christian for brief period of time.) It is a 'Fuck the System' message. Both parties do it, it's not just Obama-it's all part of a political game that our politicians play to fool the sheep. Truth is that the two parties may differ drastically in some ways but beneath their shiny exterior, there are dreadful similarities and hypocrisies-look at what they actually do rather than what they sell you.
@TheFifthHorseman I think the duel meaning is pretty obvious given the lines: "Politics, religion, your vision's the same You played us, as both a cancer and a cure".
@TheFifthHorseman I think the duel meaning is pretty obvious given the lines: "Politics, religion, your vision's the same You played us, as both a cancer and a cure".
You could probably summarize the entire song with those 2 lines (for the most part).
You could probably summarize the entire song with those 2 lines (for the most part).