And so then judging by the rest of the verses, he believed in some kind of leftist political reform, but was disgusted by the poor attempts of the time:
It was worst when we turned to the kids on the left
And got let down by some poor excuse for protest
By idiot fucking hippies in 50 different factions
Who were locked in some kind of 60's battle reenactment
My next question is what does he mean by the "idiot fucking hippies" lyric? I mean the hippie movement was all about peace, love....and also the influence of drugs to say the least...so is he initially disgusted by the way they are going about protesting, only to revoke his anger toward the protests later in his life by saying "let's be 1905 but not 1917?" (assuming that what aforementioned about the socialist revolution is correct)
He means that the hippies couldn't move past the sixties, and so ruined the chance they were given to lead by clinging to the mindset of that era and not really agreeing on a coherent vision of the world.
He means that the hippies couldn't move past the sixties, and so ruined the chance they were given to lead by clinging to the mindset of that era and not really agreeing on a coherent vision of the world.
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With "Let's be 1905 but not 1917, let's be heroes, let's be martyrs, let's be radical thinkers" he sets himself up for
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With "Let's be 1905 but not 1917, let's be heroes, let's be martyrs, let's be radical thinkers" he sets himself up for
"So come on let's be young, let's be crass enough to care
Let's refuse to live and learn, let's make all our mistakes again, yes"
"So come on let's be young, let's be crass enough to care
Let's refuse to live and learn, let's make all our mistakes again, yes"
Which seems to mean he'd prefer a glorious, non-violent, failed revolution where...
Which seems to mean he'd prefer a glorious, non-violent, failed revolution where he stayed true to his ideals, even if he ends up a martyr (i.e: 1905), than winning a bloody revolution and ending up compromising his goals, like the 1917 revolution.
idiot fucking hippies are the extreme leftists who are indulging in conspiracy theories and a warped, unrealistic view of the world. it makes the protest seem stupid because the people doing it believe in spirits and energy and stupid conspiracy theories and are often very detached from the complex practicalities of an issue.
idiot fucking hippies are the extreme leftists who are indulging in conspiracy theories and a warped, unrealistic view of the world. it makes the protest seem stupid because the people doing it believe in spirits and energy and stupid conspiracy theories and are often very detached from the complex practicalities of an issue.
frank's gripe is that there are legitimate arguments to support a protest and intelligent ways to protest but this is lost amongst the idiocy of the hippies.
frank's gripe is that there are legitimate arguments to support a protest and intelligent ways to protest but this is lost amongst the idiocy of the hippies.
I think "idiot fucking hippies" refers to today's hippies, not the original ones from the 60's. The "hippies" that Frank hates are the type of people who protest for the sake of protesting; a lifestyle choice more than actually caring about the cause or wanting to change things.
I think "idiot fucking hippies" refers to today's hippies, not the original ones from the 60's. The "hippies" that Frank hates are the type of people who protest for the sake of protesting; a lifestyle choice more than actually caring about the cause or wanting to change things.
I sense that he grew frustrated with people who just wanted to reenact a 60's protest w/ drugs and whatnot, rather than actually fight for the cause.
I sense that he grew frustrated with people who just wanted to reenact a 60's protest w/ drugs and whatnot, rather than actually fight for the cause.
Awesome, thanks for the insight!
And so then judging by the rest of the verses, he believed in some kind of leftist political reform, but was disgusted by the poor attempts of the time:
It was worst when we turned to the kids on the left And got let down by some poor excuse for protest By idiot fucking hippies in 50 different factions Who were locked in some kind of 60's battle reenactment
My next question is what does he mean by the "idiot fucking hippies" lyric? I mean the hippie movement was all about peace, love....and also the influence of drugs to say the least...so is he initially disgusted by the way they are going about protesting, only to revoke his anger toward the protests later in his life by saying "let's be 1905 but not 1917?" (assuming that what aforementioned about the socialist revolution is correct)
He means that the hippies couldn't move past the sixties, and so ruined the chance they were given to lead by clinging to the mindset of that era and not really agreeing on a coherent vision of the world.
He means that the hippies couldn't move past the sixties, and so ruined the chance they were given to lead by clinging to the mindset of that era and not really agreeing on a coherent vision of the world.
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With "Let's be 1905 but not 1917, let's be heroes, let's be martyrs, let's be radical thinkers" he sets himself up for
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With "Let's be 1905 but not 1917, let's be heroes, let's be martyrs, let's be radical thinkers" he sets himself up for
"So come on let's be young, let's be crass enough to care Let's refuse to live and learn, let's make all our mistakes again, yes"
"So come on let's be young, let's be crass enough to care Let's refuse to live and learn, let's make all our mistakes again, yes"
Which seems to mean he'd prefer a glorious, non-violent, failed revolution where...
Which seems to mean he'd prefer a glorious, non-violent, failed revolution where he stayed true to his ideals, even if he ends up a martyr (i.e: 1905), than winning a bloody revolution and ending up compromising his goals, like the 1917 revolution.
idiot fucking hippies are the extreme leftists who are indulging in conspiracy theories and a warped, unrealistic view of the world. it makes the protest seem stupid because the people doing it believe in spirits and energy and stupid conspiracy theories and are often very detached from the complex practicalities of an issue.
idiot fucking hippies are the extreme leftists who are indulging in conspiracy theories and a warped, unrealistic view of the world. it makes the protest seem stupid because the people doing it believe in spirits and energy and stupid conspiracy theories and are often very detached from the complex practicalities of an issue.
frank's gripe is that there are legitimate arguments to support a protest and intelligent ways to protest but this is lost amongst the idiocy of the hippies.
frank's gripe is that there are legitimate arguments to support a protest and intelligent ways to protest but this is lost amongst the idiocy of the hippies.
I'm pretty sure the idiot fucking hippies were the punk group he used to hang out with, Hippies and punks have similar beliefs.
I'm pretty sure the idiot fucking hippies were the punk group he used to hang out with, Hippies and punks have similar beliefs.
I think "idiot fucking hippies" refers to today's hippies, not the original ones from the 60's. The "hippies" that Frank hates are the type of people who protest for the sake of protesting; a lifestyle choice more than actually caring about the cause or wanting to change things.
I think "idiot fucking hippies" refers to today's hippies, not the original ones from the 60's. The "hippies" that Frank hates are the type of people who protest for the sake of protesting; a lifestyle choice more than actually caring about the cause or wanting to change things.
I sense that he grew frustrated with people who just wanted to reenact a 60's protest w/ drugs and whatnot, rather than actually fight for the cause.
I sense that he grew frustrated with people who just wanted to reenact a 60's protest w/ drugs and whatnot, rather than actually fight for the cause.