Can people stop slandering people for relating this song to suicide and epilepsy? It's not difficult to see how they'd come to such a conclusion and if you don’t have a better idea on what the song means then I’d suggest you be quite to avoid looking arrogant and closed minded. It was suggested somewhere (and I believe it to be true) that this (as well as a lot of the songs on unknown pleasures) are Curtis' social commentary on the working industrial state he found himself drowning in. Childish dreams for all of us slowly close in until we loose all hope of them coming true, I think Curtis was talking about that hope when he said "don't ever fade away" but then, we can't exactly ask him now can we...
You’re more than welcome to point out my flaws as long as you’ve got a counter-argument.
You make some good points Danzig, however, if you go through all the Joy Division songs on this site, every single song people claim are about epilepsy and sucide. Is every song Ian Curtis wrote about epilepsy or suicide? Was he not capable of thinking about anything else? It gets old. It has nothing to do with being arrogant and close minded. Actually it's open-minded to think that maybe Ian wrote some songs about other subjects, and the most arrogant post that I've read under this song, is the post written by you.
You make some good points Danzig, however, if you go through all the Joy Division songs on this site, every single song people claim are about epilepsy and sucide. Is every song Ian Curtis wrote about epilepsy or suicide? Was he not capable of thinking about anything else? It gets old. It has nothing to do with being arrogant and close minded. Actually it's open-minded to think that maybe Ian wrote some songs about other subjects, and the most arrogant post that I've read under this song, is the post written by you.
Can I start by having a bit of a rant?
Can people stop slandering people for relating this song to suicide and epilepsy? It's not difficult to see how they'd come to such a conclusion and if you don’t have a better idea on what the song means then I’d suggest you be quite to avoid looking arrogant and closed minded. It was suggested somewhere (and I believe it to be true) that this (as well as a lot of the songs on unknown pleasures) are Curtis' social commentary on the working industrial state he found himself drowning in. Childish dreams for all of us slowly close in until we loose all hope of them coming true, I think Curtis was talking about that hope when he said "don't ever fade away" but then, we can't exactly ask him now can we...
You’re more than welcome to point out my flaws as long as you’ve got a counter-argument.
You make some good points Danzig, however, if you go through all the Joy Division songs on this site, every single song people claim are about epilepsy and sucide. Is every song Ian Curtis wrote about epilepsy or suicide? Was he not capable of thinking about anything else? It gets old. It has nothing to do with being arrogant and close minded. Actually it's open-minded to think that maybe Ian wrote some songs about other subjects, and the most arrogant post that I've read under this song, is the post written by you.
You make some good points Danzig, however, if you go through all the Joy Division songs on this site, every single song people claim are about epilepsy and sucide. Is every song Ian Curtis wrote about epilepsy or suicide? Was he not capable of thinking about anything else? It gets old. It has nothing to do with being arrogant and close minded. Actually it's open-minded to think that maybe Ian wrote some songs about other subjects, and the most arrogant post that I've read under this song, is the post written by you.
This is the most reasonable and coherent meaning I've read for this superb song.
This is the most reasonable and coherent meaning I've read for this superb song.