It's not that the lyrics are not good, but I think that a Christian band shouldn't sing like Satan (directly), but rather take a narrative position. Instead of saying "They call ME the Son of the..." it should be "They call HIM the Son of the Morning..." and so on.
Plato once made a remarkable note on not playing any parts in plays, songs and poems where one is personified as something evil; only narrate.
I think the position taken in this song, the position of Satan, fits perfectly into what the band was trying to do. That is, this album was supposed to be a concept album that deals with the battle between Satan and God and their respective kingdoms. It seems appropriate for them to take on the persona of Satan as I don't think this song would be as powerful if it was sung from an objective and seperate point of view.
I think the position taken in this song, the position of Satan, fits perfectly into what the band was trying to do. That is, this album was supposed to be a concept album that deals with the battle between Satan and God and their respective kingdoms. It seems appropriate for them to take on the persona of Satan as I don't think this song would be as powerful if it was sung from an objective and seperate point of view.
I think that doing this song in Satan's point of view was a great idea. As blody269 put, it wouldn't be nearly as powerful as it is without that. It helps to show us the passion and power that Satan has.
I think that doing this song in Satan's point of view was a great idea. As blody269 put, it wouldn't be nearly as powerful as it is without that. It helps to show us the passion and power that Satan has.
I know that it makes it seem more realistic and convincing and I totally agree with their views. But it's kinda awkward. Being a Christian and singing (even if you're just acting) things like "I damn your Son" or "I am the lord of air and my dawn will last forever"...?
I know that it makes it seem more realistic and convincing and I totally agree with their views. But it's kinda awkward. Being a Christian and singing (even if you're just acting) things like "I damn your Son" or "I am the lord of air and my dawn will last forever"...?
I hear you guys. Great insight. When you sing along to the song and you are quoting Satan (even if fictionally) calling God "weak forgiver" and such just doesn't sit well in our souls :P. So, when I sing the song, I just mumble the Satan quotes and sing the God quotes because I know that God conquers evil. :) I do, however, think that the image the band is setting is good and powerful. I like how the concept grabs us Christians by the shirt, so to speak and, makes us want to defend our Lord and Savior and...
I hear you guys. Great insight. When you sing along to the song and you are quoting Satan (even if fictionally) calling God "weak forgiver" and such just doesn't sit well in our souls :P. So, when I sing the song, I just mumble the Satan quotes and sing the God quotes because I know that God conquers evil. :) I do, however, think that the image the band is setting is good and powerful. I like how the concept grabs us Christians by the shirt, so to speak and, makes us want to defend our Lord and Savior and "cut off the horns" of the devil.
Such a blessed band. God is speaking through them... Keep it up and God bless!
with a concept album, the songs are not meant to be sing-a-longs. concept album's tells a story from subjective points of view, i.e. Satan and God. That why first-person language is used.
with a concept album, the songs are not meant to be sing-a-longs. concept album's tells a story from subjective points of view, i.e. Satan and God. That why first-person language is used.
These aren't just song's from the band's point of view, they are heavily guided by the Bible story, and (I believe) the Holy Spirit. That's not to say I think these songs are 'inspired' by the HS as the Scriptures are, but you get my point.
These aren't just song's from the band's point of view, they are heavily guided by the Bible story, and (I believe) the Holy Spirit. That's not to say I think these songs are 'inspired' by the HS as the Scriptures are, but you get my point.
I'm just trying to say this album is trying to TELL the LISTENERS something, so the point is to listen, not...
I'm just trying to say this album is trying to TELL the LISTENERS something, so the point is to listen, not exactly to sing.
I think thronesforcrowns is right. I love heavy christian music when the band doesn't hide behind a christian face. They are writing these songs to wake us up and take note of our behaviour and actions. We are not unlike Satan, prideful and arrogant. It's not meant to be something you can sing along with, but rather be aware of who we are most like. Our goal is to be Christ-like, and we are not. It's a constant renewing ourselves daily, Matthew 10:38 "And anyone who does not take his cross daily and follow me, is not worthy of me."...
I think thronesforcrowns is right. I love heavy christian music when the band doesn't hide behind a christian face. They are writing these songs to wake us up and take note of our behaviour and actions. We are not unlike Satan, prideful and arrogant. It's not meant to be something you can sing along with, but rather be aware of who we are most like. Our goal is to be Christ-like, and we are not. It's a constant renewing ourselves daily, Matthew 10:38 "And anyone who does not take his cross daily and follow me, is not worthy of me." We constantly have to keep ourselves in check.
I like how he said it in "Vices like Vipers", this church is unsound.
It's not that the lyrics are not good, but I think that a Christian band shouldn't sing like Satan (directly), but rather take a narrative position. Instead of saying "They call ME the Son of the..." it should be "They call HIM the Son of the Morning..." and so on. Plato once made a remarkable note on not playing any parts in plays, songs and poems where one is personified as something evil; only narrate.
I think the position taken in this song, the position of Satan, fits perfectly into what the band was trying to do. That is, this album was supposed to be a concept album that deals with the battle between Satan and God and their respective kingdoms. It seems appropriate for them to take on the persona of Satan as I don't think this song would be as powerful if it was sung from an objective and seperate point of view.
I think the position taken in this song, the position of Satan, fits perfectly into what the band was trying to do. That is, this album was supposed to be a concept album that deals with the battle between Satan and God and their respective kingdoms. It seems appropriate for them to take on the persona of Satan as I don't think this song would be as powerful if it was sung from an objective and seperate point of view.
I think that doing this song in Satan's point of view was a great idea. As blody269 put, it wouldn't be nearly as powerful as it is without that. It helps to show us the passion and power that Satan has.
I think that doing this song in Satan's point of view was a great idea. As blody269 put, it wouldn't be nearly as powerful as it is without that. It helps to show us the passion and power that Satan has.
I know that it makes it seem more realistic and convincing and I totally agree with their views. But it's kinda awkward. Being a Christian and singing (even if you're just acting) things like "I damn your Son" or "I am the lord of air and my dawn will last forever"...?
I know that it makes it seem more realistic and convincing and I totally agree with their views. But it's kinda awkward. Being a Christian and singing (even if you're just acting) things like "I damn your Son" or "I am the lord of air and my dawn will last forever"...?
I hear you guys. Great insight. When you sing along to the song and you are quoting Satan (even if fictionally) calling God "weak forgiver" and such just doesn't sit well in our souls :P. So, when I sing the song, I just mumble the Satan quotes and sing the God quotes because I know that God conquers evil. :) I do, however, think that the image the band is setting is good and powerful. I like how the concept grabs us Christians by the shirt, so to speak and, makes us want to defend our Lord and Savior and...
I hear you guys. Great insight. When you sing along to the song and you are quoting Satan (even if fictionally) calling God "weak forgiver" and such just doesn't sit well in our souls :P. So, when I sing the song, I just mumble the Satan quotes and sing the God quotes because I know that God conquers evil. :) I do, however, think that the image the band is setting is good and powerful. I like how the concept grabs us Christians by the shirt, so to speak and, makes us want to defend our Lord and Savior and "cut off the horns" of the devil.
Such a blessed band. God is speaking through them... Keep it up and God bless!
with a concept album, the songs are not meant to be sing-a-longs. concept album's tells a story from subjective points of view, i.e. Satan and God. That why first-person language is used.
with a concept album, the songs are not meant to be sing-a-longs. concept album's tells a story from subjective points of view, i.e. Satan and God. That why first-person language is used.
These aren't just song's from the band's point of view, they are heavily guided by the Bible story, and (I believe) the Holy Spirit. That's not to say I think these songs are 'inspired' by the HS as the Scriptures are, but you get my point.
These aren't just song's from the band's point of view, they are heavily guided by the Bible story, and (I believe) the Holy Spirit. That's not to say I think these songs are 'inspired' by the HS as the Scriptures are, but you get my point.
I'm just trying to say this album is trying to TELL the LISTENERS something, so the point is to listen, not...
I'm just trying to say this album is trying to TELL the LISTENERS something, so the point is to listen, not exactly to sing.
I think thronesforcrowns is right. I love heavy christian music when the band doesn't hide behind a christian face. They are writing these songs to wake us up and take note of our behaviour and actions. We are not unlike Satan, prideful and arrogant. It's not meant to be something you can sing along with, but rather be aware of who we are most like. Our goal is to be Christ-like, and we are not. It's a constant renewing ourselves daily, Matthew 10:38 "And anyone who does not take his cross daily and follow me, is not worthy of me."...
I think thronesforcrowns is right. I love heavy christian music when the band doesn't hide behind a christian face. They are writing these songs to wake us up and take note of our behaviour and actions. We are not unlike Satan, prideful and arrogant. It's not meant to be something you can sing along with, but rather be aware of who we are most like. Our goal is to be Christ-like, and we are not. It's a constant renewing ourselves daily, Matthew 10:38 "And anyone who does not take his cross daily and follow me, is not worthy of me." We constantly have to keep ourselves in check.
I like how he said it in "Vices like Vipers", this church is unsound.