You say that Lucifer and Satan are considered two different people? Who is it that considers them to be two different people? You?
You say that Lucifer and Satan are considered two different people? Who is it that considers them to be two different people? You?
I've never heard of this concept of them being considered two different people, could you please elaborate on that? I've only ever thought of them as the same person, however this person had one name whilst in Heaven and another after being cast out of Heaven.
I've never heard of this concept of them being considered two different people, could you please elaborate on that? I've only ever thought of them as the same person, however this person had one name whilst in Heaven and another after being cast out of Heaven.
This makes sense as the same process (but in reverse) occurs throughout the Bible. For example, Saul's name was changed to Paul after his conversion as he was like an entirely...
This makes sense as the same process (but in reverse) occurs throughout the Bible. For example, Saul's name was changed to Paul after his conversion as he was like an entirely different person. Similarly, Lucifer's name was changed to Satan after his rebellion as he too was like an entirely different person after this.
In the christian bible they refer to satan and lucifer and the devil all as one person to simplify it. they don't go into detail about it becuase the bible focuses on god since its purpose is to explain about him. but in the satanic bible (and no just because i've read it does not make me some pentagram drawing, goat killing satanist) which goes into more detail about it, as it should, states that there are four "crown princes of hell". They are:
In the christian bible they refer to satan and lucifer and the devil all as one person to simplify it. they don't go into detail about it becuase the bible focuses on god since its purpose is to explain about him. but in the satanic bible (and no just because i've read it does not make me some pentagram drawing, goat killing satanist) which goes into more detail about it, as it should, states that there are four "crown princes of hell". They are:
Satan: The Rival, The South, Fire
Lucifer: The Enlightened One, East, Air
Belial: He Without A...
Satan: The Rival, The South, Fire
Lucifer: The Enlightened One, East, Air
Belial: He Without A Master, North, Earth
Leviathan: Master of the Deep, South, Water
I guess they could all be considered on person as the devil the same way God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are considered one god as the trinity.
Well thanks for elaborating, but like Edboy, I think you are getting things a little bit mixed up.
Well thanks for elaborating, but like Edboy, I think you are getting things a little bit mixed up.
The Christian Bible makes all this very clear. Satan is Satan. Satan used to be called Lucifer. It's as simple as that...
The Christian Bible makes all this very clear. Satan is Satan. Satan used to be called Lucifer. It's as simple as that...
Remember that Satan is the "Father of lies" (John 8:44), while Jesus is "the way, the TRUTH, and the life" (John 14:6). The Christian Bible says that there was an angel called Lucifer who rebelled against God and was henceforth called Satan. According to you, the Satanic Bible says that there are "four crown princes of hell". I know which...
Remember that Satan is the "Father of lies" (John 8:44), while Jesus is "the way, the TRUTH, and the life" (John 14:6). The Christian Bible says that there was an angel called Lucifer who rebelled against God and was henceforth called Satan. According to you, the Satanic Bible says that there are "four crown princes of hell". I know which of the two I will choose to believe...
I agree with blondy. The Christian Bible is meant to be a complete manuscript, with no "extras". There is no reference in it that says, "See Satanic Bible for additional reading."
I agree with blondy. The Christian Bible is meant to be a complete manuscript, with no "extras". There is no reference in it that says, "See Satanic Bible for additional reading."
The true Bible was written, essentially, by God. The Satanic Bible was written (or assembled) by Anton LaVey, the founder of the church of Satan, over a thousand years later. If you want to know how things turn out between God and Satan (that includes all those other names you mentioned) go read the lyrics to The Finisher.
The true Bible was written, essentially, by God. The Satanic Bible was written (or assembled) by Anton LaVey, the founder of the church of Satan, over a thousand years later. If you want to know how things turn out between God and Satan (that includes all those other names you mentioned) go read the lyrics to The Finisher.
"I'm Am The Rival" is a reference to Satan since Satan is also known as "the opposition" or "the rival".
"Son Of The Morning" is a reference to "Morning Star" which is a name for LUCIFER, not Satan.
They're considered two different people. Its a great song i just thought I'd point that out since no one seemed to be getting that.
You say that Lucifer and Satan are considered two different people? Who is it that considers them to be two different people? You?
You say that Lucifer and Satan are considered two different people? Who is it that considers them to be two different people? You?
I've never heard of this concept of them being considered two different people, could you please elaborate on that? I've only ever thought of them as the same person, however this person had one name whilst in Heaven and another after being cast out of Heaven.
I've never heard of this concept of them being considered two different people, could you please elaborate on that? I've only ever thought of them as the same person, however this person had one name whilst in Heaven and another after being cast out of Heaven.
This makes sense as the same process (but in reverse) occurs throughout the Bible. For example, Saul's name was changed to Paul after his conversion as he was like an entirely...
This makes sense as the same process (but in reverse) occurs throughout the Bible. For example, Saul's name was changed to Paul after his conversion as he was like an entirely different person. Similarly, Lucifer's name was changed to Satan after his rebellion as he too was like an entirely different person after this.
In the christian bible they refer to satan and lucifer and the devil all as one person to simplify it. they don't go into detail about it becuase the bible focuses on god since its purpose is to explain about him. but in the satanic bible (and no just because i've read it does not make me some pentagram drawing, goat killing satanist) which goes into more detail about it, as it should, states that there are four "crown princes of hell". They are:
In the christian bible they refer to satan and lucifer and the devil all as one person to simplify it. they don't go into detail about it becuase the bible focuses on god since its purpose is to explain about him. but in the satanic bible (and no just because i've read it does not make me some pentagram drawing, goat killing satanist) which goes into more detail about it, as it should, states that there are four "crown princes of hell". They are:
Satan: The Rival, The South, Fire Lucifer: The Enlightened One, East, Air Belial: He Without A...
Satan: The Rival, The South, Fire Lucifer: The Enlightened One, East, Air Belial: He Without A Master, North, Earth Leviathan: Master of the Deep, South, Water
I guess they could all be considered on person as the devil the same way God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are considered one god as the trinity.
Uhh...the Holy Trinity is not three gods in one person, but three PERSONS in one God.
Uhh...the Holy Trinity is not three gods in one person, but three PERSONS in one God.
Is the specified "Satanic Bible" older than than any Old Testament manuscript?
Is the specified "Satanic Bible" older than than any Old Testament manuscript?
Well thanks for elaborating, but like Edboy, I think you are getting things a little bit mixed up.
Well thanks for elaborating, but like Edboy, I think you are getting things a little bit mixed up.
The Christian Bible makes all this very clear. Satan is Satan. Satan used to be called Lucifer. It's as simple as that...
The Christian Bible makes all this very clear. Satan is Satan. Satan used to be called Lucifer. It's as simple as that...
Remember that Satan is the "Father of lies" (John 8:44), while Jesus is "the way, the TRUTH, and the life" (John 14:6). The Christian Bible says that there was an angel called Lucifer who rebelled against God and was henceforth called Satan. According to you, the Satanic Bible says that there are "four crown princes of hell". I know which...
Remember that Satan is the "Father of lies" (John 8:44), while Jesus is "the way, the TRUTH, and the life" (John 14:6). The Christian Bible says that there was an angel called Lucifer who rebelled against God and was henceforth called Satan. According to you, the Satanic Bible says that there are "four crown princes of hell". I know which of the two I will choose to believe...
I agree with blondy. The Christian Bible is meant to be a complete manuscript, with no "extras". There is no reference in it that says, "See Satanic Bible for additional reading."
I agree with blondy. The Christian Bible is meant to be a complete manuscript, with no "extras". There is no reference in it that says, "See Satanic Bible for additional reading."
The true Bible was written, essentially, by God. The Satanic Bible was written (or assembled) by Anton LaVey, the founder of the church of Satan, over a thousand years later. If you want to know how things turn out between God and Satan (that includes all those other names you mentioned) go read the lyrics to The Finisher.
The true Bible was written, essentially, by God. The Satanic Bible was written (or assembled) by Anton LaVey, the founder of the church of Satan, over a thousand years later. If you want to know how things turn out between God and Satan (that includes all those other names you mentioned) go read the lyrics to The Finisher.