Suicide is not selfish. I like this song, but I absolutely hate the message. YOU'RE the one being selfish by saying, "Oh no, don't kill yourself because I will be sad!" What if they were happier dead? Would you want them to live their life being completely miserable just so YOU can be happy they aren't dead? Sometimes nothing can help people, put yourself in your position before you say they are being selfish.
Not trying to start anything here, but I wanted to write my opinion.
I actually agree with you. The song is really powerful but I think the whole aspect of "fine, be selfish and kill yourself" is a disgusting message to send out. And I don't think anyone should be made to live an unhappy life just because they don't want to disappoint those around them.
I actually agree with you. The song is really powerful but I think the whole aspect of "fine, be selfish and kill yourself" is a disgusting message to send out. And I don't think anyone should be made to live an unhappy life just because they don't want to disappoint those around them.
Personally I think any song that makes people realise or even think about their actions on others can only have a positive effect. I think he is saying that ultimately it is your choice as whether or not to take your life, but realise that it is the last thing that anybody around you would hope to happen and would do anything to avoid. Let somebody know that there is a problem and don't suffer alone.
Personally I think any song that makes people realise or even think about their actions on others can only have a positive effect. I think he is saying that ultimately it is your choice as whether or not to take your life, but realise that it is the last thing that anybody around you would hope to happen and would do anything to avoid. Let somebody know that there is a problem and don't suffer alone.
rxchy, you think that the message of the song is disgusting? The whole point of it isn't that anyone should be "made to live...
rxchy, you think that the message of the song is disgusting? The whole point of it isn't that anyone should be "made to live an unhappy life just because they don't want to disappoint those around them" but try to get some help. Again, just my opinions but I know that at your darkest hour, there is always somebody to talk to, to confide in.
It's selfish to hurt everyone that loves you for your own "benefit". Friends and family of suicide victims dont want the person to stick around sad, we wanted to help them, but they didnt give us the chance. Id bet youve never lost anyone you loved to suicide.
It's selfish to hurt everyone that loves you for your own "benefit". Friends and family of suicide victims dont want the person to stick around sad, we wanted to help them, but they didnt give us the chance. Id bet youve never lost anyone you loved to suicide.
The message of the song is that suicide is not merely "self harm" because it affects everyone close to you. He's not saying he has no empathy towards his partner - shown by the line "And by no means am I belittling that,
cause I know the troubles you've had" - what he is saying is that you need to open up about any problems your storing inside. The last lines "too many problems to list them, not enough people to listen" is ironic in a sense. It's supposed to be how his partner feels and yet the whole song has...
The message of the song is that suicide is not merely "self harm" because it affects everyone close to you. He's not saying he has no empathy towards his partner - shown by the line "And by no means am I belittling that,
cause I know the troubles you've had" - what he is saying is that you need to open up about any problems your storing inside. The last lines "too many problems to list them, not enough people to listen" is ironic in a sense. It's supposed to be how his partner feels and yet the whole song has been about those people who are there and who are willing to help this person
I don't think he is saying that. I truly believe that this song is trying to say that even though you fee as if there is "not enough people to listen" there are "your sister, your parents, your friends, and your partner" who would drop everything if you told them that you were contemplating suicide. I've been dating a girl for almost two years now. She was suicidal and a cutter when we first started dating but she hasn't cut in over six months. At first I didn't know and she literally had to tell me that she was...
I don't think he is saying that. I truly believe that this song is trying to say that even though you fee as if there is "not enough people to listen" there are "your sister, your parents, your friends, and your partner" who would drop everything if you told them that you were contemplating suicide. I've been dating a girl for almost two years now. She was suicidal and a cutter when we first started dating but she hasn't cut in over six months. At first I didn't know and she literally had to tell me that she was contemplating death before I saw anything... I took her to a doctor and she was diagnosed and we couldn't be happier... I think all this song is saying is reach out and others will catch you.
Suicide is not selfish. I like this song, but I absolutely hate the message. YOU'RE the one being selfish by saying, "Oh no, don't kill yourself because I will be sad!" What if they were happier dead? Would you want them to live their life being completely miserable just so YOU can be happy they aren't dead? Sometimes nothing can help people, put yourself in your position before you say they are being selfish.
Not trying to start anything here, but I wanted to write my opinion.
I actually agree with you. The song is really powerful but I think the whole aspect of "fine, be selfish and kill yourself" is a disgusting message to send out. And I don't think anyone should be made to live an unhappy life just because they don't want to disappoint those around them.
I actually agree with you. The song is really powerful but I think the whole aspect of "fine, be selfish and kill yourself" is a disgusting message to send out. And I don't think anyone should be made to live an unhappy life just because they don't want to disappoint those around them.
Personally I think any song that makes people realise or even think about their actions on others can only have a positive effect. I think he is saying that ultimately it is your choice as whether or not to take your life, but realise that it is the last thing that anybody around you would hope to happen and would do anything to avoid. Let somebody know that there is a problem and don't suffer alone.
Personally I think any song that makes people realise or even think about their actions on others can only have a positive effect. I think he is saying that ultimately it is your choice as whether or not to take your life, but realise that it is the last thing that anybody around you would hope to happen and would do anything to avoid. Let somebody know that there is a problem and don't suffer alone.
rxchy, you think that the message of the song is disgusting? The whole point of it isn't that anyone should be "made to live...
rxchy, you think that the message of the song is disgusting? The whole point of it isn't that anyone should be "made to live an unhappy life just because they don't want to disappoint those around them" but try to get some help. Again, just my opinions but I know that at your darkest hour, there is always somebody to talk to, to confide in.
Sorry if I've ranted.
It's selfish to hurt everyone that loves you for your own "benefit". Friends and family of suicide victims dont want the person to stick around sad, we wanted to help them, but they didnt give us the chance. Id bet youve never lost anyone you loved to suicide.
It's selfish to hurt everyone that loves you for your own "benefit". Friends and family of suicide victims dont want the person to stick around sad, we wanted to help them, but they didnt give us the chance. Id bet youve never lost anyone you loved to suicide.
The message of the song is that suicide is not merely "self harm" because it affects everyone close to you. He's not saying he has no empathy towards his partner - shown by the line "And by no means am I belittling that, cause I know the troubles you've had" - what he is saying is that you need to open up about any problems your storing inside. The last lines "too many problems to list them, not enough people to listen" is ironic in a sense. It's supposed to be how his partner feels and yet the whole song has...
The message of the song is that suicide is not merely "self harm" because it affects everyone close to you. He's not saying he has no empathy towards his partner - shown by the line "And by no means am I belittling that, cause I know the troubles you've had" - what he is saying is that you need to open up about any problems your storing inside. The last lines "too many problems to list them, not enough people to listen" is ironic in a sense. It's supposed to be how his partner feels and yet the whole song has been about those people who are there and who are willing to help this person
I don't think he is saying that. I truly believe that this song is trying to say that even though you fee as if there is "not enough people to listen" there are "your sister, your parents, your friends, and your partner" who would drop everything if you told them that you were contemplating suicide. I've been dating a girl for almost two years now. She was suicidal and a cutter when we first started dating but she hasn't cut in over six months. At first I didn't know and she literally had to tell me that she was...
I don't think he is saying that. I truly believe that this song is trying to say that even though you fee as if there is "not enough people to listen" there are "your sister, your parents, your friends, and your partner" who would drop everything if you told them that you were contemplating suicide. I've been dating a girl for almost two years now. She was suicidal and a cutter when we first started dating but she hasn't cut in over six months. At first I didn't know and she literally had to tell me that she was contemplating death before I saw anything... I took her to a doctor and she was diagnosed and we couldn't be happier... I think all this song is saying is reach out and others will catch you.