First, I agree - Karnivool's lyrics are designed for personal interpretation. Secondly, I think your interpretation of the song makes sense in terms of the "overlaying subject" within the context of the song "Deadman". What I find fascinating, however - perhaps even brilliant in its own way - is that the CD as a whole carries a message about tomorrow. Each song, for me, alludes in some way to the need to move forward in a new and different way - out of the shadows to a new day. And in that sense, I find each song carries or presses or pushes a message of hope. The last stanza (chorus - who knows - they don't write in a traditional way) of Deadman - "Still I remind myself, how I define myself, I needed to know") emphasises two things:
That all experiences are worthwhile, because in the end, we are who are because of what we've done
I am me, I know better now what that means, and I can face tomorrow with more optimism.
In that context, even the Gregorian chant at the end of Deadman can be seen as the death of the past, which then brings into context the hope of tomorrow.
Ah, hit the nail right on the head, buddy. That was the direction I was going to take. That's why I believe that Deadman is the climax toward the development of this character that seems to burst forth from general feelings of these songs. Rhetorically, it makes Change (pt 2) seem like a metamorphosis of that character, empowered by the feeling of optimism at the end of Deadman. This also accounts for songs that end more dismally (Umbra and The Caudal Lure).
Ah, hit the nail right on the head, buddy. That was the direction I was going to take. That's why I believe that Deadman is the climax toward the development of this character that seems to burst forth from general feelings of these songs. Rhetorically, it makes Change (pt 2) seem like a metamorphosis of that character, empowered by the feeling of optimism at the end of Deadman. This also accounts for songs that end more dismally (Umbra and The Caudal Lure).
Sound Awake in itself seems to be an overlay of the narrator's experience(s) - with what is up to...
Sound Awake in itself seems to be an overlay of the narrator's experience(s) - with what is up to the listener. It is a journey in which the audience are able to insert themselves into the very fabric of the music. Thus, everything becomes identifiable after close inspection of the songs (the band were going for an album that had to blossom over time for a listener)
But once again, I think you completed and expounded my thoughts davegd1.
Lord, how I wish there was more music like this.
My response would have to be in your words Mephitica and I think you've nailed it: "It is a journey in which the audience are able to insert themselves into the very fabric of the music. Thus, everything becomes identifiable after close inspection of the songs". Each of us will make what we will of it and therein lies the genius of the CD - we can all make something of it if we take the time. New Day, for me, has become an anthem - it says it all.
My response would have to be in your words Mephitica and I think you've nailed it: "It is a journey in which the audience are able to insert themselves into the very fabric of the music. Thus, everything becomes identifiable after close inspection of the songs". Each of us will make what we will of it and therein lies the genius of the CD - we can all make something of it if we take the time. New Day, for me, has become an anthem - it says it all.
First, I agree - Karnivool's lyrics are designed for personal interpretation. Secondly, I think your interpretation of the song makes sense in terms of the "overlaying subject" within the context of the song "Deadman". What I find fascinating, however - perhaps even brilliant in its own way - is that the CD as a whole carries a message about tomorrow. Each song, for me, alludes in some way to the need to move forward in a new and different way - out of the shadows to a new day. And in that sense, I find each song carries or presses or pushes a message of hope. The last stanza (chorus - who knows - they don't write in a traditional way) of Deadman - "Still I remind myself, how I define myself, I needed to know") emphasises two things:
In that context, even the Gregorian chant at the end of Deadman can be seen as the death of the past, which then brings into context the hope of tomorrow.
And the music is moving too!
Ah, hit the nail right on the head, buddy. That was the direction I was going to take. That's why I believe that Deadman is the climax toward the development of this character that seems to burst forth from general feelings of these songs. Rhetorically, it makes Change (pt 2) seem like a metamorphosis of that character, empowered by the feeling of optimism at the end of Deadman. This also accounts for songs that end more dismally (Umbra and The Caudal Lure).
Ah, hit the nail right on the head, buddy. That was the direction I was going to take. That's why I believe that Deadman is the climax toward the development of this character that seems to burst forth from general feelings of these songs. Rhetorically, it makes Change (pt 2) seem like a metamorphosis of that character, empowered by the feeling of optimism at the end of Deadman. This also accounts for songs that end more dismally (Umbra and The Caudal Lure).
Sound Awake in itself seems to be an overlay of the narrator's experience(s) - with what is up to...
Sound Awake in itself seems to be an overlay of the narrator's experience(s) - with what is up to the listener. It is a journey in which the audience are able to insert themselves into the very fabric of the music. Thus, everything becomes identifiable after close inspection of the songs (the band were going for an album that had to blossom over time for a listener)
But once again, I think you completed and expounded my thoughts davegd1. Lord, how I wish there was more music like this.
My response would have to be in your words Mephitica and I think you've nailed it: "It is a journey in which the audience are able to insert themselves into the very fabric of the music. Thus, everything becomes identifiable after close inspection of the songs". Each of us will make what we will of it and therein lies the genius of the CD - we can all make something of it if we take the time. New Day, for me, has become an anthem - it says it all.
My response would have to be in your words Mephitica and I think you've nailed it: "It is a journey in which the audience are able to insert themselves into the very fabric of the music. Thus, everything becomes identifiable after close inspection of the songs". Each of us will make what we will of it and therein lies the genius of the CD - we can all make something of it if we take the time. New Day, for me, has become an anthem - it says it all.
Enjoy
Enjoy
Davegd1
Davegd1
Straight up. Its about moving on. "I don't want this to end" - in reference to the destructive process of change. etc.
Straight up. Its about moving on. "I don't want this to end" - in reference to the destructive process of change. etc.
Straight up. Its about moving on. "I don't want this to end" - in reference to the destructive process of change. etc.
Straight up. Its about moving on. "I don't want this to end" - in reference to the destructive process of change. etc.
Straight up. Its about moving on. "I don't want this to end" - in reference to the destructive process of change. etc.
Straight up. Its about moving on. "I don't want this to end" - in reference to the destructive process of change. etc.