It is?? I think that the Bible tells about the angels rebellion, and Lucifer and his demons being cast out of heaven (High above the world we had it all, so no one seemed to care when evil came to call and soon we knew temptation and we sinned, then he closed the door, we can't come back again), but this is the "sequel" - the demons are coming back to invade heaven :PP
"Now we're back again we want it all, and no one seems to know that evil's come to call and we will bring temptation and you'll sin, then we'll slam the door, you can't come back again" (btw, I like how the first bridge says "then he closed the door", and then the second "then we'll SLAM the door, more evil :P)
Furthermore, the chorus is kinda obvious under this point of view... and in one of the press releases of the album the song was described like that... so this is not about the demons being cast out of heaven, but it's about the demons coming back to kick the angels' asses!! (no offense intended).
Wrong. The Bible describes the past, the present, and the future of that rebellion. Like I said before, you need to know well what the Bible says about it.
Wrong. The Bible describes the past, the present, and the future of that rebellion. Like I said before, you need to know well what the Bible says about it.
Here is when the then-angels fell into sin/hell:
Here is when the then-angels fell into sin/hell:
"High above the world we had it all, so no one seemed to care when evil came to call and soon we knew temptation and we sinned, then he closed the door, we can't come back again"
"High above the world we had it all, so no one seemed to care when evil came to call and soon we knew temptation and we sinned, then he closed the door, we can't come back again"
Here is when us (the humans, not the angels) will fall into sin/hell:
Here is when us (the humans, not the angels) will fall into sin/hell:
"Now we're back again we want it all, and...
"Now we're back again we want it all, and no one seems to know that evil's come to call and we will bring temptation and you'll sin, then we'll slam the door, you can't come back again"
Yeah, while I didn't read the Bible (I just know the general storyline), what is not clear to me is how the song does not appear to be clearly referring entirely to the return of the demons to heaven, once you know the song is about this.
Yeah, while I didn't read the Bible (I just know the general storyline), what is not clear to me is how the song does not appear to be clearly referring entirely to the return of the demons to heaven, once you know the song is about this.
If you check the basically official site of Black Sabbath, at http://www.black-sabbath.com/discog/thedevilyouknow.html you'll find a press release that says that "[...] Butler and Appice slow the pace while ramping up the intensity on "Follow The Tears" and "Double The Pain" and "Breaking Into Heaven," the latter diverging from its glacial procession for Dio's...
If you check the basically official site of Black Sabbath, at http://www.black-sabbath.com/discog/thedevilyouknow.html you'll find a press release that says that "[...] Butler and Appice slow the pace while ramping up the intensity on "Follow The Tears" and "Double The Pain" and "Breaking Into Heaven," the latter diverging from its glacial procession for Dio's majestic chorus about fallen angels planning an attack on paradise. "
So, with that set in mind, why shouldn't the song be about the fallen angels coming back with a vengeance?
First stanza - "Someone said there's a lost horizon / We must find a way to the throne / Take his gold and the bed he lies on / No mercy from hearts made of stone" ... this is quite clear: the fallen angels rebel once more, they are determined to take God's throne.
Second stanza - "Before the fall we were only dancers / Angels gliding over the floor [...] " ... this talks of what was going in heaven before the rebellion, they were all angels (and so Lucifer, the brighest of all"
Now, the first bridge: as you said, the fallen angels give in to temptation and are being cast out of heaven as a result - "then he closed the door, we can't come back again".
Another verse - "Before today it was a dark tomorrow / Chained and cursed to wander with man / But we've been told that it's time and we must go / Does hopeless mean maybe we can" ... here the fallen angels lament being away from heaven, and being stuck on earth - with men!!! it sucks for them to hang around with men... so someone (the leader of the rebellion?) tells them "hey, guys, it's time, let's get back up in the clouds and kick some ass!!!"
And therefore, the second bridge, with the minor differences, becomes quite clear: "Now we're back again we want it all, and no one seems to know that evil's come to call and we will bring temptation and you'll sin, then we'll slam the door, you can't come back again" ... this has nothing to do with men, this is all about the fallen angels coming back (they're BACK AGAIN, they WANT IT ALL... what? heaven!!! the throne of gold!!! the arps!!! the clouds!! everything!!!), with heaven not even knowing about it (they just didn't see it coming, ha!), and then the fallen angel will kick heaven's current angels out and SLAM the door. God CLOSED the door on them, they will SLAM the door on God and his angels. Great move from Dio to underline how the fallen angels are royally pissed and planning utter vengeance!!!"
And then the chorus... the title says it all, "Breaking into heaven", "get ready for war"... the fallen angels are back and they want to take over heaven kicking out all of the angels... just like THEYT were kicked out back in the day!!! "We just found the key and we're breaking into heaven"... how the concept of man fit into this?
Regardless of what is actually described in the Bible, this song is entirely from the point of view of fallen angels, from time to finish - it goes "we were angels, we got tempted, we got kicked out of heaven, we spent all this time out of heaven, we found a way to come back, we ARE coming back and we're gonna kick your ass". Something totally in line, also, with what Dio would write.
I hope I didn't come off as arrogant or naive in this 'cause neither was my intention :-)
"here the fallen angels lament being away from heaven, and being stuck on earth - with men!!!"
"here the fallen angels lament being away from heaven, and being stuck on earth - with men!!!"
Here there is a mistake, like I said at the start, it all comes from the Bible.
Here there is a mistake, like I said at the start, it all comes from the Bible.
The Demons (Fallen Angels) used to be Angels, Angels may have bodies, that is may be physical (if they want), like the Angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Demons (Fallen Angels) used to be Angels, Angels may have bodies, that is may be physical (if they want), like the Angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Fall from the Fallen Angels means two things:
The Fall from the Fallen Angels means two things:
1st. They are not in Heaven anymore, and not on Earth either (not exactly), but in Hell.
1st. They are not in Heaven anymore, and not on Earth either (not exactly), but in Hell.
2nd. They do not have bodies anymore, they may not...
2nd. They do not have bodies anymore, they may not be physical.
Because of those two limitations, when a Demon wants to get something done on Earth (on the Physical way), he needs to seduce a human, or possess a person first. That is what they mean when they say:
"Chained and cursed to wander with man".
That is why everything involves humans, it has always been like that, in fact the first sin from the Fallen Angels was hate for God's new creature: Adam.
Now, the second issue is that there is an end times prophecy on the Book of Revelations that states that the Gates of Hell would be opened, and the Demons would be released once more for a short while leading to human temptation & sin, and finally the Great Tribulation.
That Great Tribulation is what they mean when they say: "Get ready for War".
You did not come off as arrogant, I will be glad to keep adding notes if you have further questions.
Ah, thanks for the explanation about the "cursed to wander with man" part - it must surely be the way you say it, after all it's not the first time I hear about this now that I recall, so that most definitively is the reason of that talk about men - demons having to corrupt men to do their deeds.
Ah, thanks for the explanation about the "cursed to wander with man" part - it must surely be the way you say it, after all it's not the first time I hear about this now that I recall, so that most definitively is the reason of that talk about men - demons having to corrupt men to do their deeds.
And while the Great Tribulation thing surely seems to fit with the overall theme, the feel I get from the lyrics (call it a prejudice because of the press release, or a sensation that this is something that...
And while the Great Tribulation thing surely seems to fit with the overall theme, the feel I get from the lyrics (call it a prejudice because of the press release, or a sensation that this is something that Dio totally could write), is that the angels in heaven just didn't see it coming. The fallen angels themselves seem to not believe it: "Does hopeless means maybe we can", like, "uh, we can really go??", also the second bridge "now we're back again we want it all, and NO ONE SEEMED TO KNOW THAT EVIL CAME TO CALL".... and also "we just found the key".... all of this gives me the idea that the attack to Heaven is something totally unexpected and not foretold in any prophecy.
But I have to agree that "someone told that it's time and we must go" may tie in nicely with the Great Tribulation concept: "as foretold, here we come to open the gates of hell, get out you demons and fight".... but I dunno, I really get the feel from the lyrics and from Dio's style that the lyrics seem to talk of a cunning plan that the angels in heaven just didn't see coming, rather than a big final battle well foretold in a prophecy.
There's more I can say to support the point about the Great Tribulation thing, but at the end all my comments come down to the same thing I said right from the start:
There's more I can say to support the point about the Great Tribulation thing, but at the end all my comments come down to the same thing I said right from the start:
"You need to know well what the Bible says in order to understand it".
"You need to know well what the Bible says in order to understand it".
It would take me too long to explain the Theological Philosophy and Eschatology from Roman Catholicism, but I could close my comments about this particular song saying that Ronnie James Dio wrote the song. He may have any type of beliefs now a days, but as his family was from an...
It would take me too long to explain the Theological Philosophy and Eschatology from Roman Catholicism, but I could close my comments about this particular song saying that Ronnie James Dio wrote the song. He may have any type of beliefs now a days, but as his family was from an Italian ancestry (was born Padavona, later changed the lastname to Dio, which by the way means God in Italian Language), you may expect him to be knowledgeable about the Bible, moreover given the mystical nature of the Band Black Sabbath (or Heaven and Hell).
It is?? I think that the Bible tells about the angels rebellion, and Lucifer and his demons being cast out of heaven (High above the world we had it all, so no one seemed to care when evil came to call and soon we knew temptation and we sinned, then he closed the door, we can't come back again), but this is the "sequel" - the demons are coming back to invade heaven :PP
"Now we're back again we want it all, and no one seems to know that evil's come to call and we will bring temptation and you'll sin, then we'll slam the door, you can't come back again" (btw, I like how the first bridge says "then he closed the door", and then the second "then we'll SLAM the door, more evil :P)
Furthermore, the chorus is kinda obvious under this point of view... and in one of the press releases of the album the song was described like that... so this is not about the demons being cast out of heaven, but it's about the demons coming back to kick the angels' asses!! (no offense intended).
Wrong. The Bible describes the past, the present, and the future of that rebellion. Like I said before, you need to know well what the Bible says about it.
Wrong. The Bible describes the past, the present, and the future of that rebellion. Like I said before, you need to know well what the Bible says about it.
Here is when the then-angels fell into sin/hell:
Here is when the then-angels fell into sin/hell:
"High above the world we had it all, so no one seemed to care when evil came to call and soon we knew temptation and we sinned, then he closed the door, we can't come back again"
"High above the world we had it all, so no one seemed to care when evil came to call and soon we knew temptation and we sinned, then he closed the door, we can't come back again"
Here is when us (the humans, not the angels) will fall into sin/hell:
Here is when us (the humans, not the angels) will fall into sin/hell:
"Now we're back again we want it all, and...
"Now we're back again we want it all, and no one seems to know that evil's come to call and we will bring temptation and you'll sin, then we'll slam the door, you can't come back again"
Ask if it is still not clear.
Yeah, while I didn't read the Bible (I just know the general storyline), what is not clear to me is how the song does not appear to be clearly referring entirely to the return of the demons to heaven, once you know the song is about this.
Yeah, while I didn't read the Bible (I just know the general storyline), what is not clear to me is how the song does not appear to be clearly referring entirely to the return of the demons to heaven, once you know the song is about this.
If you check the basically official site of Black Sabbath, at http://www.black-sabbath.com/discog/thedevilyouknow.html you'll find a press release that says that "[...] Butler and Appice slow the pace while ramping up the intensity on "Follow The Tears" and "Double The Pain" and "Breaking Into Heaven," the latter diverging from its glacial procession for Dio's...
If you check the basically official site of Black Sabbath, at http://www.black-sabbath.com/discog/thedevilyouknow.html you'll find a press release that says that "[...] Butler and Appice slow the pace while ramping up the intensity on "Follow The Tears" and "Double The Pain" and "Breaking Into Heaven," the latter diverging from its glacial procession for Dio's majestic chorus about fallen angels planning an attack on paradise. "
So, with that set in mind, why shouldn't the song be about the fallen angels coming back with a vengeance?
First stanza - "Someone said there's a lost horizon / We must find a way to the throne / Take his gold and the bed he lies on / No mercy from hearts made of stone" ... this is quite clear: the fallen angels rebel once more, they are determined to take God's throne.
Second stanza - "Before the fall we were only dancers / Angels gliding over the floor [...] " ... this talks of what was going in heaven before the rebellion, they were all angels (and so Lucifer, the brighest of all"
Now, the first bridge: as you said, the fallen angels give in to temptation and are being cast out of heaven as a result - "then he closed the door, we can't come back again".
Another verse - "Before today it was a dark tomorrow / Chained and cursed to wander with man / But we've been told that it's time and we must go / Does hopeless mean maybe we can" ... here the fallen angels lament being away from heaven, and being stuck on earth - with men!!! it sucks for them to hang around with men... so someone (the leader of the rebellion?) tells them "hey, guys, it's time, let's get back up in the clouds and kick some ass!!!"
And therefore, the second bridge, with the minor differences, becomes quite clear: "Now we're back again we want it all, and no one seems to know that evil's come to call and we will bring temptation and you'll sin, then we'll slam the door, you can't come back again" ... this has nothing to do with men, this is all about the fallen angels coming back (they're BACK AGAIN, they WANT IT ALL... what? heaven!!! the throne of gold!!! the arps!!! the clouds!! everything!!!), with heaven not even knowing about it (they just didn't see it coming, ha!), and then the fallen angel will kick heaven's current angels out and SLAM the door. God CLOSED the door on them, they will SLAM the door on God and his angels. Great move from Dio to underline how the fallen angels are royally pissed and planning utter vengeance!!!"
And then the chorus... the title says it all, "Breaking into heaven", "get ready for war"... the fallen angels are back and they want to take over heaven kicking out all of the angels... just like THEYT were kicked out back in the day!!! "We just found the key and we're breaking into heaven"... how the concept of man fit into this?
Regardless of what is actually described in the Bible, this song is entirely from the point of view of fallen angels, from time to finish - it goes "we were angels, we got tempted, we got kicked out of heaven, we spent all this time out of heaven, we found a way to come back, we ARE coming back and we're gonna kick your ass". Something totally in line, also, with what Dio would write.
I hope I didn't come off as arrogant or naive in this 'cause neither was my intention :-)
"here the fallen angels lament being away from heaven, and being stuck on earth - with men!!!"
"here the fallen angels lament being away from heaven, and being stuck on earth - with men!!!"
Here there is a mistake, like I said at the start, it all comes from the Bible.
Here there is a mistake, like I said at the start, it all comes from the Bible.
The Demons (Fallen Angels) used to be Angels, Angels may have bodies, that is may be physical (if they want), like the Angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Demons (Fallen Angels) used to be Angels, Angels may have bodies, that is may be physical (if they want), like the Angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Fall from the Fallen Angels means two things:
The Fall from the Fallen Angels means two things:
1st. They are not in Heaven anymore, and not on Earth either (not exactly), but in Hell.
1st. They are not in Heaven anymore, and not on Earth either (not exactly), but in Hell.
2nd. They do not have bodies anymore, they may not...
2nd. They do not have bodies anymore, they may not be physical.
Because of those two limitations, when a Demon wants to get something done on Earth (on the Physical way), he needs to seduce a human, or possess a person first. That is what they mean when they say:
"Chained and cursed to wander with man".
That is why everything involves humans, it has always been like that, in fact the first sin from the Fallen Angels was hate for God's new creature: Adam.
Now, the second issue is that there is an end times prophecy on the Book of Revelations that states that the Gates of Hell would be opened, and the Demons would be released once more for a short while leading to human temptation & sin, and finally the Great Tribulation.
That Great Tribulation is what they mean when they say: "Get ready for War".
You did not come off as arrogant, I will be glad to keep adding notes if you have further questions.
Ah, thanks for the explanation about the "cursed to wander with man" part - it must surely be the way you say it, after all it's not the first time I hear about this now that I recall, so that most definitively is the reason of that talk about men - demons having to corrupt men to do their deeds.
Ah, thanks for the explanation about the "cursed to wander with man" part - it must surely be the way you say it, after all it's not the first time I hear about this now that I recall, so that most definitively is the reason of that talk about men - demons having to corrupt men to do their deeds.
And while the Great Tribulation thing surely seems to fit with the overall theme, the feel I get from the lyrics (call it a prejudice because of the press release, or a sensation that this is something that...
And while the Great Tribulation thing surely seems to fit with the overall theme, the feel I get from the lyrics (call it a prejudice because of the press release, or a sensation that this is something that Dio totally could write), is that the angels in heaven just didn't see it coming. The fallen angels themselves seem to not believe it: "Does hopeless means maybe we can", like, "uh, we can really go??", also the second bridge "now we're back again we want it all, and NO ONE SEEMED TO KNOW THAT EVIL CAME TO CALL".... and also "we just found the key".... all of this gives me the idea that the attack to Heaven is something totally unexpected and not foretold in any prophecy.
But I have to agree that "someone told that it's time and we must go" may tie in nicely with the Great Tribulation concept: "as foretold, here we come to open the gates of hell, get out you demons and fight".... but I dunno, I really get the feel from the lyrics and from Dio's style that the lyrics seem to talk of a cunning plan that the angels in heaven just didn't see coming, rather than a big final battle well foretold in a prophecy.
There's more I can say to support the point about the Great Tribulation thing, but at the end all my comments come down to the same thing I said right from the start:
There's more I can say to support the point about the Great Tribulation thing, but at the end all my comments come down to the same thing I said right from the start:
"You need to know well what the Bible says in order to understand it".
"You need to know well what the Bible says in order to understand it".
It would take me too long to explain the Theological Philosophy and Eschatology from Roman Catholicism, but I could close my comments about this particular song saying that Ronnie James Dio wrote the song. He may have any type of beliefs now a days, but as his family was from an...
It would take me too long to explain the Theological Philosophy and Eschatology from Roman Catholicism, but I could close my comments about this particular song saying that Ronnie James Dio wrote the song. He may have any type of beliefs now a days, but as his family was from an Italian ancestry (was born Padavona, later changed the lastname to Dio, which by the way means God in Italian Language), you may expect him to be knowledgeable about the Bible, moreover given the mystical nature of the Band Black Sabbath (or Heaven and Hell).