Actually this song is about the persecution of pagans, gypsy s, witches, etc., and for that matter every other religion by the church.
There's perfect harmony in the rising and the falling of the sea.- The pagans (I use the term loosely) look to nature instead of the church.
And as we sail along I never fail to be astounded by the things well do for promises and a song. - Is it not astounding that people burned others alive in the name of religion, which is the promise of salvation and eternal life.
We are the innocent, we are the damned. -These people innocent. But, they got caught in the middle of the battle of good and evil, "the lion and the lamb."
We bring you fantasy we bring you pain. - Not too sure but perhaps an allusion to the ideas of these religion. Or possibly stories and folklore.
We're your one great chance for a miracle or we will disappear never to be seen again. - They know that the church is not the true religion. The truth comes from within, not from a priest. And if the church wins and these people disappear that knowledge is lost forever. The miracle would be mankind knowing he is not damned, and realizing how beautiful we could be as a society.
We bring you beautiful, we teach you sin. - Makeup and sacred sexuality. Makeup is of "pagan" origins. Sacred sexuality is definitely frowned upon by the church.
Same thing with the miracle....we do need one.
We are the innocent, we cut we bleed. - Easy, they're people too, not monsters, demons or evil people. As some would have us believe.
They'll take your diamonds and give you steel. - They'll take your inner peace and give you weapons to fight for them. Think about the crusades.
You'll be caught in the middle of the madness, lost like them and part of all the pain they feel. - You'll be caught up in the middle of all the crap the church has pushed onto mankind. Lost like them, never knowing the truth, and feeling all the pain that comes from not finding it.
They say you're beautiful and they'll always let you in. - The doors are always open at the church right?
The doors are never open to the child without a trace of sin. - This could mean Jesus, but I think there's something deeper there.
this is an awsome interpetation by futrality :D :D I'd never thought of that.
this is an awsome interpetation by futrality :D :D I'd never thought of that.
This is my first reply on this site.
This is my first reply on this site.
i mostly agree with futrality but i'd like to add some stuff. This may not be right but that's how i "see" the song. Besides none of us can really know what dio ment, and we're free to take whatever we ant from it :)
i mostly agree with futrality but i'd like to add some stuff. This may not be right but that's how i "see" the song. Besides none of us can really know what dio ment, and we're free to take whatever we ant from it :)
I may be "young" but during my life i've seen how most people "sleep". It's like they don't know what the problems of this world really are. Rich kids, lazy ones...
I may be "young" but during my life i've seen how most people "sleep". It's like they don't know what the problems of this world really are. Rich kids, lazy ones that don't care about much rather than themselves. Biggest problem in their life would be wether to by an xbox 360 or a ps3.
I believe i belong to the part of the people that "see" things the way they really are, unlike most of the egoistic humans.
I think Dio noticed that too, so by "we" he means all the people that see the real truth.
For example "we are the inossent, we are the damned" i believe he means that we are the pure ones, and this acts like a curse, cause it's really sad to know how much most of these people suck.
By "fools" i think he refers to the rest of the people, commonly known as the "mass".
"We bring you fantasy we bring you pain." = I think the pain refers to the truth. "We" know the truth and it hurts, so if we decide to spread it we will bring pain. Also people tend to "deny" the truth that hurts them, and think of it us lies, thus we bring "fantasy" for them.
"They'll take your diamonds and give you steel" = This might refer to what futrality
said but you can also interpet it this way : There are many times where you give a lot of things to a friend of yours, and sacrifise a lot (diamonds), but they never apriciate it or even realise it. And when it comes the time you need help, they don't do the same (they give you steel).
OK about the last part of the song , wich in my opinion is the cooler , i don't really know what he means :P It's propably what futrality said, about church, but it might also means how the "mass" treats you when you act like them (at this time, sinfully and arrogantly ^^). I still don't know why the doors ain't open for the child without a trace of sin ^^ and we all know that this child is Jesus...but what is Dio talking about ??
"I still don't know why the doors ain't open for the child without a trace of sin ^^ and we all know that this child is Jesus...but what is Dio talking about ??" - have you ever read "don quixote"? It might be answer to a question. however, I think you already answered your own question. In my opinion, "child without a trace of sin" is not only jesus, but also every person with innocent heart. You said: "it might also means how the "mass" treats you when you act like them (at this time, sinfully and arrogantly ^^)".
if you...
"I still don't know why the doors ain't open for the child without a trace of sin ^^ and we all know that this child is Jesus...but what is Dio talking about ??" - have you ever read "don quixote"? It might be answer to a question. however, I think you already answered your own question. In my opinion, "child without a trace of sin" is not only jesus, but also every person with innocent heart. You said: "it might also means how the "mass" treats you when you act like them (at this time, sinfully and arrogantly ^^)".
if you are a child without a trace of sin, then you're just not like them, and not one of them.
p.s. some people don't see because they can't, not because they don't want. don't be too strict to them. :)
Actually this song is about the persecution of pagans, gypsy s, witches, etc., and for that matter every other religion by the church.
There's perfect harmony in the rising and the falling of the sea.- The pagans (I use the term loosely) look to nature instead of the church.
And as we sail along I never fail to be astounded by the things well do for promises and a song. - Is it not astounding that people burned others alive in the name of religion, which is the promise of salvation and eternal life.
We are the innocent, we are the damned. -These people innocent. But, they got caught in the middle of the battle of good and evil, "the lion and the lamb."
We bring you fantasy we bring you pain. - Not too sure but perhaps an allusion to the ideas of these religion. Or possibly stories and folklore.
We're your one great chance for a miracle or we will disappear never to be seen again. - They know that the church is not the true religion. The truth comes from within, not from a priest. And if the church wins and these people disappear that knowledge is lost forever. The miracle would be mankind knowing he is not damned, and realizing how beautiful we could be as a society.
We bring you beautiful, we teach you sin. - Makeup and sacred sexuality. Makeup is of "pagan" origins. Sacred sexuality is definitely frowned upon by the church.
Same thing with the miracle....we do need one.
We are the innocent, we cut we bleed. - Easy, they're people too, not monsters, demons or evil people. As some would have us believe.
They'll take your diamonds and give you steel. - They'll take your inner peace and give you weapons to fight for them. Think about the crusades.
You'll be caught in the middle of the madness, lost like them and part of all the pain they feel. - You'll be caught up in the middle of all the crap the church has pushed onto mankind. Lost like them, never knowing the truth, and feeling all the pain that comes from not finding it.
They say you're beautiful and they'll always let you in. - The doors are always open at the church right?
The doors are never open to the child without a trace of sin. - This could mean Jesus, but I think there's something deeper there.
this is an awsome interpetation by futrality :D :D I'd never thought of that.
this is an awsome interpetation by futrality :D :D I'd never thought of that.
This is my first reply on this site.
This is my first reply on this site.
i mostly agree with futrality but i'd like to add some stuff. This may not be right but that's how i "see" the song. Besides none of us can really know what dio ment, and we're free to take whatever we ant from it :)
i mostly agree with futrality but i'd like to add some stuff. This may not be right but that's how i "see" the song. Besides none of us can really know what dio ment, and we're free to take whatever we ant from it :)
I may be "young" but during my life i've seen how most people "sleep". It's like they don't know what the problems of this world really are. Rich kids, lazy ones...
I may be "young" but during my life i've seen how most people "sleep". It's like they don't know what the problems of this world really are. Rich kids, lazy ones that don't care about much rather than themselves. Biggest problem in their life would be wether to by an xbox 360 or a ps3.
I believe i belong to the part of the people that "see" things the way they really are, unlike most of the egoistic humans.
I think Dio noticed that too, so by "we" he means all the people that see the real truth.
For example "we are the inossent, we are the damned" i believe he means that we are the pure ones, and this acts like a curse, cause it's really sad to know how much most of these people suck.
By "fools" i think he refers to the rest of the people, commonly known as the "mass".
"We bring you fantasy we bring you pain." = I think the pain refers to the truth. "We" know the truth and it hurts, so if we decide to spread it we will bring pain. Also people tend to "deny" the truth that hurts them, and think of it us lies, thus we bring "fantasy" for them.
"They'll take your diamonds and give you steel" = This might refer to what futrality said but you can also interpet it this way : There are many times where you give a lot of things to a friend of yours, and sacrifise a lot (diamonds), but they never apriciate it or even realise it. And when it comes the time you need help, they don't do the same (they give you steel).
OK about the last part of the song , wich in my opinion is the cooler , i don't really know what he means :P It's propably what futrality said, about church, but it might also means how the "mass" treats you when you act like them (at this time, sinfully and arrogantly ^^). I still don't know why the doors ain't open for the child without a trace of sin ^^ and we all know that this child is Jesus...but what is Dio talking about ??
"I still don't know why the doors ain't open for the child without a trace of sin ^^ and we all know that this child is Jesus...but what is Dio talking about ??" - have you ever read "don quixote"? It might be answer to a question. however, I think you already answered your own question. In my opinion, "child without a trace of sin" is not only jesus, but also every person with innocent heart. You said: "it might also means how the "mass" treats you when you act like them (at this time, sinfully and arrogantly ^^)". if you...
"I still don't know why the doors ain't open for the child without a trace of sin ^^ and we all know that this child is Jesus...but what is Dio talking about ??" - have you ever read "don quixote"? It might be answer to a question. however, I think you already answered your own question. In my opinion, "child without a trace of sin" is not only jesus, but also every person with innocent heart. You said: "it might also means how the "mass" treats you when you act like them (at this time, sinfully and arrogantly ^^)". if you are a child without a trace of sin, then you're just not like them, and not one of them.
p.s. some people don't see because they can't, not because they don't want. don't be too strict to them. :)