i'm about to get super sappy and fangirly. don't let the literary references fool you.
in midnight's children, a novel by salman rushdie, the narrator explains that reality is a matter of perception. he claims that they closer that we are to the present, the more incredible it is. things only become plausible, legitimate, ordinary as we move away and the present becomes past.
ain't this just like justin vernon to be showing up salman rushdie?
this song so beautifully and succinctly captures that same concept. love, like the present, sneaks up on you quickly. unpremeditated, unanalyzed... the most unbelievable, life altering, and breathe taking moments so often take place when you least expect them, in places as regular as blood banks and car seats.
i wonder, though, what stage is this relationship in?
my initial thought is that this is a new encounter. after all, the song begins with their meeting. but then again, she recognizes his blood, knows his very essence, right away. either a testament to the strength of their 'love at first sight,' or proof of how well they know each other?
his agreement, "I know it well," of course changes in meaning throughout the song. initially, however, it confirms his mutual understanding of himself or perhaps of her. again, hard to tell whether these impressions have come strong and fast, or have built over time.
in the first chorus, "the secret" has to be romantic feelings hidden for fear of unknown consequences. will my love be reciprocated? am i lying by being with this person and not acknowledging the way i truly feel about them? ... am i crazy? definitely "fucks with your honor and teases your head." the fact that these consequences exist certainly implies that a lot is on the line with the recent romantic revelations. probably a lot more than a fresh and faux-platonic acquaintanceship.
can't bypass the chorus without saying how much i loooove the tension between the certain and uncertain here. she (he? though he directly addresses her, it seems like he could just as easily be talking to himself) KNOWS the secret, KNOWS that it's good, but just can't goddamn overcome her internal conflict, her struggle with what she DOESN'T KNOW -- how it will all work out. so relatable; so passionate.
and god, what a simple and gorgeous little scene that comes next? hand rubbing, candy bar eating, kissing in the snowfall and moonlight... am i watching a winterized version of the notebook? only bon iver can achieve this level of adorable sweetness without making it cheezzy as hell and simultaneously manage to nestle the song's philosophical gem within it.
"ain't this just like the present / to be showing up like this?" ohmylord. incredible. this song, chock full of smoldering intensity, reaches its peak here. in the midst of a giggling interaction, in the negative light of a dying moon, this line sneaks up and smacks you with confusion and relief. i mean... this girl's spewing insight practically mid hook up. what the hell? and yet i find myself enthralled and enraptured by the profundity of what she says, the exact moment she choses to say it, the results of her decision ("we started to kiss"; "is that xmas morning creaks?"). thank GOODNESS the secret is out! hallelujah that these moments, these words, this present -- as incredible and unexpected as it is -- happened to piece together in the right way! thank the powers that be that when all hung in the balance, it tilted towards love!
still... there's something bittersweet about it all. if these are new friends, then isn't fate just an unpredictable son of a bitch for introducing you to the love of your life when you least expect it? if these are old friends, then isn't fate just an unpredictable son of a bitch for tormenting you with uncertainty one moment and fulfilling your wildest dreams the next? whichever one it is, again, he "knows it well." this time it's acceptance, it's willingness to give this thing a go, it's knowledge that this may end up very bitter or very sweet.
ahh. i love the steady drum that builds during this chorus. i feel like its my heart cheering for them. finally, straightforward, he says it. he's "in love." duh. we knew that before he did. but zooooom forward into the future, and you realize that this can't just be lusty love or a short lived romance. "what's that noise up the stairs, babe? / is that christmas morning creaks?" : he cares about her so much, he can see himself married to her, having children, hearing them upstairs roused and ready for presents on some distant christmas morning. of course it can be taken as a literal flash forward, but i like to imagine him waking up with her after their first time together and groggily remembering a whole future he dreamed for them.
this time, when he "knows it well," it's commitment. an assuredness of their togetherness. an affirmation of their incredible present, and their even more exciting future.
I think that's a fantastic interpretation of the track. Well done. Enjoyyourroots...WTF is that all about.
I think that's a fantastic interpretation of the track. Well done. Enjoyyourroots...WTF is that all about.
I'd just like to add one thing. I think these two people already knew each other before meeting at the Blood Bank but saw each other in a new light, there, for one reason or another and that was like meeting for the first time:
I'd just like to add one thing. I think these two people already knew each other before meeting at the Blood Bank but saw each other in a new light, there, for one reason or another and that was like meeting for the first time:
"You said look it, that's your
Stacked on top with your brothers"
"You said look it, that's your
Stacked on top with your brothers"
How could she otherwise know who his brothers is, although then again, maybe its just that the bags are stacked in order of name...
How could she otherwise know who his brothers is, although then again, maybe its just that the bags are stacked in order of name and John Doe Vernon is stacked with Justins.
But I like the idea that these two people started out knowing each other in a purely platonic way and gradually the relationship developed into love.
Love that line, "I'm in love with your honour, I'm in love with your cheek"
great job analyzing this. i had a few ideas for what the "secret" could be but the part about it "running [her] with red" always threw me off. with your idea of her hiding/thinking about her feelings towards him it finally came to me that she could be blushing.
great job analyzing this. i had a few ideas for what the "secret" could be but the part about it "running [her] with red" always threw me off. with your idea of her hiding/thinking about her feelings towards him it finally came to me that she could be blushing.
In terms of whether or not they knew each other...I think they actually met in the blood bank (it's the randomness of it all that makes this song so beautiful). They clearly exchanged names...so, that's how she recognized his blood and his brother's blood.
In terms of whether or not they knew each other...I think they actually met in the blood bank (it's the randomness of it all that makes this song so beautiful). They clearly exchanged names...so, that's how she recognized his blood and his brother's blood.
Living in the present...not worrying about the past and/or the future is what's important. If you don't live in the present you might miss out on something amazing...something like finding love at the most mundane place (yes, I am aware of the significance and the beauty of...
Living in the present...not worrying about the past and/or the future is what's important. If you don't live in the present you might miss out on something amazing...something like finding love at the most mundane place (yes, I am aware of the significance and the beauty of them meeting at a blood bank...but it's random and unexpected like the supermarket).
"Cause it's runnin' you with red" definitely means that she's blushing...oh, so beautiful!
To start, this is spot-on with how I perceived the song. I took pleasure in reading the entire thing, to the contrary of enjoyyourroots's opinion. Just to add another quick line analysis, these are my favorite lines of them all:
To start, this is spot-on with how I perceived the song. I took pleasure in reading the entire thing, to the contrary of enjoyyourroots's opinion. Just to add another quick line analysis, these are my favorite lines of them all:
"I'm in love with your honor
I'm in love with your cheeks"
"I'm in love with your honor
I'm in love with your cheeks"
Breathtaking. He's saying that he's in love with every single thing about her: from her overarching sense of honor down to the smallest thing like the way her cheeks look. Absolutely beautiful.
Breathtaking. He's saying that he's in love with every single thing about her: from her overarching sense of honor down to the smallest thing like the way her cheeks look. Absolutely beautiful.
Amazing analysis! You seemed to put all the emotions I got out of this song into words. Thanks for the contribution; keep it up. Post like this keep me on this site.
Amazing analysis! You seemed to put all the emotions I got out of this song into words. Thanks for the contribution; keep it up. Post like this keep me on this site.
I always thought of my ex, who is still a good friend whenever I heard this song, and your interpretation has opened my eyes to the real meaning behind this song, so thank you. If i put myself in these shoes, I am currently at the first verse, in a situation that 'fucks with your honor and teases your head'. I'm really hoping I can get to the xmas morning creaks...
I always thought of my ex, who is still a good friend whenever I heard this song, and your interpretation has opened my eyes to the real meaning behind this song, so thank you. If i put myself in these shoes, I am currently at the first verse, in a situation that 'fucks with your honor and teases your head'. I'm really hoping I can get to the xmas morning creaks...
Thanks, that is a beautiful interpretation. It doesn't even matter that there is no definate true interpretation, but the fact that this song and their beautiful words lead to this beautifully detailed and well written analysis makes music and art in general so fantastic and moving.
Thanks, that is a beautiful interpretation. It doesn't even matter that there is no definate true interpretation, but the fact that this song and their beautiful words lead to this beautifully detailed and well written analysis makes music and art in general so fantastic and moving.
i'm about to get super sappy and fangirly. don't let the literary references fool you. in midnight's children, a novel by salman rushdie, the narrator explains that reality is a matter of perception. he claims that they closer that we are to the present, the more incredible it is. things only become plausible, legitimate, ordinary as we move away and the present becomes past. ain't this just like justin vernon to be showing up salman rushdie? this song so beautifully and succinctly captures that same concept. love, like the present, sneaks up on you quickly. unpremeditated, unanalyzed... the most unbelievable, life altering, and breathe taking moments so often take place when you least expect them, in places as regular as blood banks and car seats. i wonder, though, what stage is this relationship in? my initial thought is that this is a new encounter. after all, the song begins with their meeting. but then again, she recognizes his blood, knows his very essence, right away. either a testament to the strength of their 'love at first sight,' or proof of how well they know each other? his agreement, "I know it well," of course changes in meaning throughout the song. initially, however, it confirms his mutual understanding of himself or perhaps of her. again, hard to tell whether these impressions have come strong and fast, or have built over time. in the first chorus, "the secret" has to be romantic feelings hidden for fear of unknown consequences. will my love be reciprocated? am i lying by being with this person and not acknowledging the way i truly feel about them? ... am i crazy? definitely "fucks with your honor and teases your head." the fact that these consequences exist certainly implies that a lot is on the line with the recent romantic revelations. probably a lot more than a fresh and faux-platonic acquaintanceship. can't bypass the chorus without saying how much i loooove the tension between the certain and uncertain here. she (he? though he directly addresses her, it seems like he could just as easily be talking to himself) KNOWS the secret, KNOWS that it's good, but just can't goddamn overcome her internal conflict, her struggle with what she DOESN'T KNOW -- how it will all work out. so relatable; so passionate. and god, what a simple and gorgeous little scene that comes next? hand rubbing, candy bar eating, kissing in the snowfall and moonlight... am i watching a winterized version of the notebook? only bon iver can achieve this level of adorable sweetness without making it cheezzy as hell and simultaneously manage to nestle the song's philosophical gem within it. "ain't this just like the present / to be showing up like this?" ohmylord. incredible. this song, chock full of smoldering intensity, reaches its peak here. in the midst of a giggling interaction, in the negative light of a dying moon, this line sneaks up and smacks you with confusion and relief. i mean... this girl's spewing insight practically mid hook up. what the hell? and yet i find myself enthralled and enraptured by the profundity of what she says, the exact moment she choses to say it, the results of her decision ("we started to kiss"; "is that xmas morning creaks?"). thank GOODNESS the secret is out! hallelujah that these moments, these words, this present -- as incredible and unexpected as it is -- happened to piece together in the right way! thank the powers that be that when all hung in the balance, it tilted towards love! still... there's something bittersweet about it all. if these are new friends, then isn't fate just an unpredictable son of a bitch for introducing you to the love of your life when you least expect it? if these are old friends, then isn't fate just an unpredictable son of a bitch for tormenting you with uncertainty one moment and fulfilling your wildest dreams the next? whichever one it is, again, he "knows it well." this time it's acceptance, it's willingness to give this thing a go, it's knowledge that this may end up very bitter or very sweet. ahh. i love the steady drum that builds during this chorus. i feel like its my heart cheering for them. finally, straightforward, he says it. he's "in love." duh. we knew that before he did. but zooooom forward into the future, and you realize that this can't just be lusty love or a short lived romance. "what's that noise up the stairs, babe? / is that christmas morning creaks?" : he cares about her so much, he can see himself married to her, having children, hearing them upstairs roused and ready for presents on some distant christmas morning. of course it can be taken as a literal flash forward, but i like to imagine him waking up with her after their first time together and groggily remembering a whole future he dreamed for them. this time, when he "knows it well," it's commitment. an assuredness of their togetherness. an affirmation of their incredible present, and their even more exciting future.
Very well interpreted. Thank you.
Very well interpreted. Thank you.
I think that's a fantastic interpretation of the track. Well done. Enjoyyourroots...WTF is that all about.
I think that's a fantastic interpretation of the track. Well done. Enjoyyourroots...WTF is that all about.
I'd just like to add one thing. I think these two people already knew each other before meeting at the Blood Bank but saw each other in a new light, there, for one reason or another and that was like meeting for the first time:
I'd just like to add one thing. I think these two people already knew each other before meeting at the Blood Bank but saw each other in a new light, there, for one reason or another and that was like meeting for the first time:
"You said look it, that's your Stacked on top with your brothers"
"You said look it, that's your Stacked on top with your brothers"
How could she otherwise know who his brothers is, although then again, maybe its just that the bags are stacked in order of name...
How could she otherwise know who his brothers is, although then again, maybe its just that the bags are stacked in order of name and John Doe Vernon is stacked with Justins.
But I like the idea that these two people started out knowing each other in a purely platonic way and gradually the relationship developed into love.
Love that line, "I'm in love with your honour, I'm in love with your cheek"
Anyway, great work Natbrack.
great job analyzing this. i had a few ideas for what the "secret" could be but the part about it "running [her] with red" always threw me off. with your idea of her hiding/thinking about her feelings towards him it finally came to me that she could be blushing.
great job analyzing this. i had a few ideas for what the "secret" could be but the part about it "running [her] with red" always threw me off. with your idea of her hiding/thinking about her feelings towards him it finally came to me that she could be blushing.
couldn't have said it better myself! kudos!
couldn't have said it better myself! kudos!
In terms of whether or not they knew each other...I think they actually met in the blood bank (it's the randomness of it all that makes this song so beautiful). They clearly exchanged names...so, that's how she recognized his blood and his brother's blood.
In terms of whether or not they knew each other...I think they actually met in the blood bank (it's the randomness of it all that makes this song so beautiful). They clearly exchanged names...so, that's how she recognized his blood and his brother's blood.
Living in the present...not worrying about the past and/or the future is what's important. If you don't live in the present you might miss out on something amazing...something like finding love at the most mundane place (yes, I am aware of the significance and the beauty of...
Living in the present...not worrying about the past and/or the future is what's important. If you don't live in the present you might miss out on something amazing...something like finding love at the most mundane place (yes, I am aware of the significance and the beauty of them meeting at a blood bank...but it's random and unexpected like the supermarket).
"Cause it's runnin' you with red" definitely means that she's blushing...oh, so beautiful!
wonderful
wonderful
To start, this is spot-on with how I perceived the song. I took pleasure in reading the entire thing, to the contrary of enjoyyourroots's opinion. Just to add another quick line analysis, these are my favorite lines of them all:
To start, this is spot-on with how I perceived the song. I took pleasure in reading the entire thing, to the contrary of enjoyyourroots's opinion. Just to add another quick line analysis, these are my favorite lines of them all:
"I'm in love with your honor I'm in love with your cheeks"
"I'm in love with your honor I'm in love with your cheeks"
Breathtaking. He's saying that he's in love with every single thing about her: from her overarching sense of honor down to the smallest thing like the way her cheeks look. Absolutely beautiful.
Breathtaking. He's saying that he's in love with every single thing about her: from her overarching sense of honor down to the smallest thing like the way her cheeks look. Absolutely beautiful.
I created an account here just to tell you THANK YOU. Your interpretation of the song is beautiful, I had to save it :)
I created an account here just to tell you THANK YOU. Your interpretation of the song is beautiful, I had to save it :)
Amazing analysis! You seemed to put all the emotions I got out of this song into words. Thanks for the contribution; keep it up. Post like this keep me on this site.
Amazing analysis! You seemed to put all the emotions I got out of this song into words. Thanks for the contribution; keep it up. Post like this keep me on this site.
This song has so much beauty sewn into it! Thank you for this post.
This song has so much beauty sewn into it! Thank you for this post.
I always thought of my ex, who is still a good friend whenever I heard this song, and your interpretation has opened my eyes to the real meaning behind this song, so thank you. If i put myself in these shoes, I am currently at the first verse, in a situation that 'fucks with your honor and teases your head'. I'm really hoping I can get to the xmas morning creaks...
I always thought of my ex, who is still a good friend whenever I heard this song, and your interpretation has opened my eyes to the real meaning behind this song, so thank you. If i put myself in these shoes, I am currently at the first verse, in a situation that 'fucks with your honor and teases your head'. I'm really hoping I can get to the xmas morning creaks...
Thanks, that is a beautiful interpretation. It doesn't even matter that there is no definate true interpretation, but the fact that this song and their beautiful words lead to this beautifully detailed and well written analysis makes music and art in general so fantastic and moving.
Thanks, that is a beautiful interpretation. It doesn't even matter that there is no definate true interpretation, but the fact that this song and their beautiful words lead to this beautifully detailed and well written analysis makes music and art in general so fantastic and moving.
@natbrack I thought the same when I heard it! Your resume is just so true. You're good at it!
@natbrack I thought the same when I heard it! Your resume is just so true. You're good at it!