interesting to think how "we had some massive nights" is using the exact same tense and exact same words here as in "massive nights" itself, but here it sounds so much more nostalgic, so much more set in the past, whereas in "massive nights" even though the lyric's definitely in the past tense, it doesn't sound like they're going to stop having those massive nights any time soon. i guess that kind of present/past distinction is the main difference between 'boys and girls' and 'stay positive' as a whole.
another cool thing i noticed was how the number of kids who got crucified seems to change between "both crosses" and this song. to begin with, "she's been with a couple of boys that died and two of them were crucified" ('she' being sapphire in my opinion, what with the psychic references in "both crosses"), but here "two kids died and one of them was crucified". i'm not quite sure what that means, though if we assume that that "crucified" isn't to be taken literally, more as a metaphor for murder or betrayal, or even execution, then the difference could come from the different characters' (sapphire on "both crosses" and craig on this one) interpretation of events - craig thinks that one kid was responsible for his own death, while sapphire sees it as murder.
this song only states that she knows one kid who was crucified, which is true and what the album has always stated. in both crosses the other cross is Jesus.
this song only states that she knows one kid who was crucified, which is true and what the album has always stated. in both crosses the other cross is Jesus.
You beat me to it, mariellb. While it's probable that another kid died other than the crucified kid (One for the Cutters suggests a stabbing), the first crucifiction in Both Crosses is literally Jesus.
You beat me to it, mariellb. While it's probable that another kid died other than the crucified kid (One for the Cutters suggests a stabbing), the first crucifiction in Both Crosses is literally Jesus.
We have an unreliable narrator or two throughout "Stay Positive", and the narrative is further complicated by the dual timelines -- Sapphire is seeing visions of the future with Charlemagne getting killed, but based on the coda to "Yeah Sapphire", she may actually have been able to warn him in time. So, now it's only 1 kid getting killed that summer.
We have an unreliable narrator or two throughout "Stay Positive", and the narrative is further complicated by the dual timelines -- Sapphire is seeing visions of the future with Charlemagne getting killed, but based on the coda to "Yeah Sapphire", she may actually have been able to warn him in time. So, now it's only 1 kid getting killed that summer.
interesting to think how "we had some massive nights" is using the exact same tense and exact same words here as in "massive nights" itself, but here it sounds so much more nostalgic, so much more set in the past, whereas in "massive nights" even though the lyric's definitely in the past tense, it doesn't sound like they're going to stop having those massive nights any time soon. i guess that kind of present/past distinction is the main difference between 'boys and girls' and 'stay positive' as a whole.
another cool thing i noticed was how the number of kids who got crucified seems to change between "both crosses" and this song. to begin with, "she's been with a couple of boys that died and two of them were crucified" ('she' being sapphire in my opinion, what with the psychic references in "both crosses"), but here "two kids died and one of them was crucified". i'm not quite sure what that means, though if we assume that that "crucified" isn't to be taken literally, more as a metaphor for murder or betrayal, or even execution, then the difference could come from the different characters' (sapphire on "both crosses" and craig on this one) interpretation of events - craig thinks that one kid was responsible for his own death, while sapphire sees it as murder.
this song only states that she knows one kid who was crucified, which is true and what the album has always stated. in both crosses the other cross is Jesus.
this song only states that she knows one kid who was crucified, which is true and what the album has always stated. in both crosses the other cross is Jesus.
You beat me to it, mariellb. While it's probable that another kid died other than the crucified kid (One for the Cutters suggests a stabbing), the first crucifiction in Both Crosses is literally Jesus.
You beat me to it, mariellb. While it's probable that another kid died other than the crucified kid (One for the Cutters suggests a stabbing), the first crucifiction in Both Crosses is literally Jesus.
We have an unreliable narrator or two throughout "Stay Positive", and the narrative is further complicated by the dual timelines -- Sapphire is seeing visions of the future with Charlemagne getting killed, but based on the coda to "Yeah Sapphire", she may actually have been able to warn him in time. So, now it's only 1 kid getting killed that summer.
We have an unreliable narrator or two throughout "Stay Positive", and the narrative is further complicated by the dual timelines -- Sapphire is seeing visions of the future with Charlemagne getting killed, but based on the coda to "Yeah Sapphire", she may actually have been able to warn him in time. So, now it's only 1 kid getting killed that summer.