this is a great song and the overall meaning ties in with the story well but what is edde saying when he says, "there's those thinking more or less less is more
but if less is more how you're keeping score?
Means for every point you make
your level drops
kinda like its starting from the top
you can't do that..." In christopher Mccandless's philosophy less materially would be more in a moral or spiritual way....so what is eddie saying?
This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song.
This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song.
My analysis follows:
My analysis follows:
The author of this song is using an argument to refute the idea that 'less is more.' However, I disagree with the logic used in what the author is arguing. The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person.
The author of this song is using an argument to refute the idea that 'less is more.' However, I disagree with the logic used in what the author is arguing. The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person.
A materialistic person would feel the need to accumulate money and cars and such and would use these items to keep score, as the song...
A materialistic person would feel the need to accumulate money and cars and such and would use these items to keep score, as the song suggests. However, a non-materialistic person would not even feel the need to keep score; someone ascribing to the belief 'less is more' is denying a complex, material life and moving instead towards a simpler human existence. This person would not keep score because he or she would likely value things like love and friendship, which are not added up like monetarily-based items.
Based on this analysis, I think some people would just straight up disagree with what the song is arguing against at this part because: someone thinking less is more wouldn't be keeping score in the first place.
Please let me know if you disagree. Maybe I'm understanding it incorrectly.. but as of now I'm pushing against this part of the song. Eddie Vedder didn't write it, anyway
"This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song."
Me too! :)
"This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song."
Me too! :)
After i read your interpretation to this part, i suddenly understand what is my interpretation to this. This part helped me specifically: "The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person."
After i read your interpretation to this part, i suddenly understand what is my interpretation to this. This part helped me specifically: "The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person."
And I suddenly feel a full understanding with those sentences the poet wrote. I wrote that I FEEL understanding because logically it is really complicated i think. In my opinion this...
And I suddenly feel a full understanding with those sentences the poet wrote. I wrote that I FEEL understanding because logically it is really complicated i think. In my opinion this part is great because it reflects the complexity of life or of a person really well, by this confusion.
The thing is, i see it the way i want to see it - and what i want to see is that the poet didn't write this part refering to a materialist nor a non-materialistic person, but i'd like to think he refered to more "human" person - a person who is combined with both materialism and spirituality, and those two in him wrestle one with another.
Something bothered me, and that's how i got to think of this part in this song, and yet, i had a hard time to figure it out. That thing that bothered me was that i feel so tired all the time, and it makes do an increadible effort to live the way i want, selflessly, so sometimes i stumble and feel so bad about myself. very bad. And I would like to be much less tired, but i can't. So I thought about the possibility of a person to stay awake while he is tired, and be pleased with that, and accept it and maybe be less angry that way, and more peaceful with being satisfied dispite the unfulfilled necessity. And yet, this is very very hard to feel this way.
So that's what i meant with the complexity of a person. He wants to struggle his material needs, but sometimes he feels unhappy with this unfulfilled need and so he finds himself angry about himself behaving "materialistic way". So maybe this person WANTS to be a non-materialistic person, but is not totally that way (he's human).
this is a great song and the overall meaning ties in with the story well but what is edde saying when he says, "there's those thinking more or less less is more but if less is more how you're keeping score? Means for every point you make your level drops kinda like its starting from the top you can't do that..." In christopher Mccandless's philosophy less materially would be more in a moral or spiritual way....so what is eddie saying?
This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song.
This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song.
My analysis follows:
My analysis follows:
The author of this song is using an argument to refute the idea that 'less is more.' However, I disagree with the logic used in what the author is arguing. The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person.
The author of this song is using an argument to refute the idea that 'less is more.' However, I disagree with the logic used in what the author is arguing. The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person.
A materialistic person would feel the need to accumulate money and cars and such and would use these items to keep score, as the song...
A materialistic person would feel the need to accumulate money and cars and such and would use these items to keep score, as the song suggests. However, a non-materialistic person would not even feel the need to keep score; someone ascribing to the belief 'less is more' is denying a complex, material life and moving instead towards a simpler human existence. This person would not keep score because he or she would likely value things like love and friendship, which are not added up like monetarily-based items.
Based on this analysis, I think some people would just straight up disagree with what the song is arguing against at this part because: someone thinking less is more wouldn't be keeping score in the first place.
Please let me know if you disagree. Maybe I'm understanding it incorrectly.. but as of now I'm pushing against this part of the song. Eddie Vedder didn't write it, anyway
"This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song." Me too! :)
"This part confused me too, and that's actually the reason that I searched for this song." Me too! :)
After i read your interpretation to this part, i suddenly understand what is my interpretation to this. This part helped me specifically: "The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person."
After i read your interpretation to this part, i suddenly understand what is my interpretation to this. This part helped me specifically: "The problem and confusing part with the song-writer's train of thought is (I think) that he is mixing a materialistic person with a non-materialistic person."
And I suddenly feel a full understanding with those sentences the poet wrote. I wrote that I FEEL understanding because logically it is really complicated i think. In my opinion this...
And I suddenly feel a full understanding with those sentences the poet wrote. I wrote that I FEEL understanding because logically it is really complicated i think. In my opinion this part is great because it reflects the complexity of life or of a person really well, by this confusion. The thing is, i see it the way i want to see it - and what i want to see is that the poet didn't write this part refering to a materialist nor a non-materialistic person, but i'd like to think he refered to more "human" person - a person who is combined with both materialism and spirituality, and those two in him wrestle one with another. Something bothered me, and that's how i got to think of this part in this song, and yet, i had a hard time to figure it out. That thing that bothered me was that i feel so tired all the time, and it makes do an increadible effort to live the way i want, selflessly, so sometimes i stumble and feel so bad about myself. very bad. And I would like to be much less tired, but i can't. So I thought about the possibility of a person to stay awake while he is tired, and be pleased with that, and accept it and maybe be less angry that way, and more peaceful with being satisfied dispite the unfulfilled necessity. And yet, this is very very hard to feel this way. So that's what i meant with the complexity of a person. He wants to struggle his material needs, but sometimes he feels unhappy with this unfulfilled need and so he finds himself angry about himself behaving "materialistic way". So maybe this person WANTS to be a non-materialistic person, but is not totally that way (he's human).