richeye is right. No Marxist (not that the Manics have been anything like that for a long, long time) would claim that state socialism is freedom, rather than freedom would exist when pure communism is established, and wage labour, nations and the state are abolished. However, Marx himself saw 'socialism' as being organised along the lines of the Paris commune, and certainly not like the USSR or China.
Still don't get the Lear thing though. The first line is: 'I thought the king had more affected the Duke of Albany than Cornwall.'
@Ad_Nauseam I think the point of the Lear reference is that once you've witnessed the death and destruction at the end of the play (when there are, like, only two people left alive) it's not surprising if you then fail to recall the court gossip and empty politicking at the beginning.
@Ad_Nauseam I think the point of the Lear reference is that once you've witnessed the death and destruction at the end of the play (when there are, like, only two people left alive) it's not surprising if you then fail to recall the court gossip and empty politicking at the beginning.
@Ad_Nauseam People wanted to censor Shakespeare with PC culture, it's a line that's literally in the song. The words in the soundbite refer to how the character can't remember the first lines just like no one will if everything will be destroyed with PC mindets.
@Ad_Nauseam People wanted to censor Shakespeare with PC culture, it's a line that's literally in the song. The words in the soundbite refer to how the character can't remember the first lines just like no one will if everything will be destroyed with PC mindets.
richeye is right. No Marxist (not that the Manics have been anything like that for a long, long time) would claim that state socialism is freedom, rather than freedom would exist when pure communism is established, and wage labour, nations and the state are abolished. However, Marx himself saw 'socialism' as being organised along the lines of the Paris commune, and certainly not like the USSR or China.
Still don't get the Lear thing though. The first line is: 'I thought the king had more affected the Duke of Albany than Cornwall.'
@Ad_Nauseam I think the point of the Lear reference is that once you've witnessed the death and destruction at the end of the play (when there are, like, only two people left alive) it's not surprising if you then fail to recall the court gossip and empty politicking at the beginning.
@Ad_Nauseam I think the point of the Lear reference is that once you've witnessed the death and destruction at the end of the play (when there are, like, only two people left alive) it's not surprising if you then fail to recall the court gossip and empty politicking at the beginning.
@Ad_Nauseam People wanted to censor Shakespeare with PC culture, it's a line that's literally in the song. The words in the soundbite refer to how the character can't remember the first lines just like no one will if everything will be destroyed with PC mindets.
@Ad_Nauseam People wanted to censor Shakespeare with PC culture, it's a line that's literally in the song. The words in the soundbite refer to how the character can't remember the first lines just like no one will if everything will be destroyed with PC mindets.