okay, so I was listening to this song last night (this morning), and reading Ecclesiastes at the same time. I don't know, most of you people have probably never picked up the bible in your life, and believe that anyone who reads it is retarded, but that's aside the point. I'm not here to push my views, which are excruciatingly complicated, upon anyone.
I was reading it though, and it seemed to parallel this song so much that it blew me away. It was also the first song on the shuffler, so that was kinda cool.
So, first off, "to a life meaningless" is pretty much a recurring theme in Ecclesiastes. Nothing you do will get you anywhere, so what's the point of success, right?
Also, right when I heard "systematically", I read it in my version of the bible (NIV). Freaked me out lol. This is what it says:
"Systematically, he sampled all of life's powers and pleasures, yet all ultimately disappointed him. All proved meaningless." - Student Bible, NIV, pg 693 (Talking about Solomon)
"Patience, pleasures and rewards" - "Patience is better than pride". Okay, so that's a simple example. But right after that, the song says "staring at the sun I'm bored", and Solomon says "nothing new under the sun" a lot.
Patience comes from the Latin word patior, which means 'to suffer'. It kind of shows a chiasmus of ideas, 'suffer for pleasures and rewards', or something to that extent.
"I'm sure that some day we'll wake from the dream of success and focus..."
"I thought in my heart, 'Come now, I will test you with pleasure to find out what is good.' But that also proved to be meaningless." Ecc 2:1
"So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind." Ecc 2:17
"Tell me what it takes to ascend"
"Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?" Ecc 3:21
Both this song and Solomon seem to be talking about seeking meaning, and wisdom. By the way, many people wanted to remove Ecclesiastes from the Old Testament, due to its depressing, realistic views on life.
I recommend reading Ecclesiastes no matter what religion you are. It holds many truths in it, but it is a very burdensome read.
(By the way, "Rose of Sharyn", a Killswitch Engage song, is based on Song of Songs, which is also written by Solomon)
@ Friktion, I find your thoughts on Ecclesiastes quite pessimistic.
@ despondent, there are a lot of books I don't believe in, but it would be wrong of me to call them names. I may disagree with them, but RESPECT is one important key in this life.
@ Friktion, I find your thoughts on Ecclesiastes quite pessimistic.
@ despondent, there are a lot of books I don't believe in, but it would be wrong of me to call them names. I may disagree with them, but RESPECT is one important key in this life.
@Friktion666 Ironic that you say I should respect a book that tells me I'll be tortured forever simply because I find no reason to believe what the book says. Why is it respectful for Christians and the buy-bull to condemn everyone else, but not respectful for people to call bullshit on Christi[ns]anity and the buy-bull?
@Friktion666 Ironic that you say I should respect a book that tells me I'll be tortured forever simply because I find no reason to believe what the book says. Why is it respectful for Christians and the buy-bull to condemn everyone else, but not respectful for people to call bullshit on Christi[ns]anity and the buy-bull?
okay, so I was listening to this song last night (this morning), and reading Ecclesiastes at the same time. I don't know, most of you people have probably never picked up the bible in your life, and believe that anyone who reads it is retarded, but that's aside the point. I'm not here to push my views, which are excruciatingly complicated, upon anyone.
I was reading it though, and it seemed to parallel this song so much that it blew me away. It was also the first song on the shuffler, so that was kinda cool.
So, first off, "to a life meaningless" is pretty much a recurring theme in Ecclesiastes. Nothing you do will get you anywhere, so what's the point of success, right?
Also, right when I heard "systematically", I read it in my version of the bible (NIV). Freaked me out lol. This is what it says:
"Systematically, he sampled all of life's powers and pleasures, yet all ultimately disappointed him. All proved meaningless." - Student Bible, NIV, pg 693 (Talking about Solomon)
"Patience, pleasures and rewards" - "Patience is better than pride". Okay, so that's a simple example. But right after that, the song says "staring at the sun I'm bored", and Solomon says "nothing new under the sun" a lot.
Patience comes from the Latin word patior, which means 'to suffer'. It kind of shows a chiasmus of ideas, 'suffer for pleasures and rewards', or something to that extent.
"I'm sure that some day we'll wake from the dream of success and focus..."
"I thought in my heart, 'Come now, I will test you with pleasure to find out what is good.' But that also proved to be meaningless." Ecc 2:1
"So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind." Ecc 2:17
"Tell me what it takes to ascend" "Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?" Ecc 3:21
Both this song and Solomon seem to be talking about seeking meaning, and wisdom. By the way, many people wanted to remove Ecclesiastes from the Old Testament, due to its depressing, realistic views on life.
I recommend reading Ecclesiastes no matter what religion you are. It holds many truths in it, but it is a very burdensome read.
(By the way, "Rose of Sharyn", a Killswitch Engage song, is based on Song of Songs, which is also written by Solomon)
You could do the same with about 4,167 other books, 4,163 of which are less full of shit than the Christian buy-bull. Nice try though.
You could do the same with about 4,167 other books, 4,163 of which are less full of shit than the Christian buy-bull. Nice try though.
@ Friktion, I find your thoughts on Ecclesiastes quite pessimistic. @ despondent, there are a lot of books I don't believe in, but it would be wrong of me to call them names. I may disagree with them, but RESPECT is one important key in this life.
@ Friktion, I find your thoughts on Ecclesiastes quite pessimistic. @ despondent, there are a lot of books I don't believe in, but it would be wrong of me to call them names. I may disagree with them, but RESPECT is one important key in this life.
@Friktion666 Ironic that you say I should respect a book that tells me I'll be tortured forever simply because I find no reason to believe what the book says. Why is it respectful for Christians and the buy-bull to condemn everyone else, but not respectful for people to call bullshit on Christi[ns]anity and the buy-bull?
@Friktion666 Ironic that you say I should respect a book that tells me I'll be tortured forever simply because I find no reason to believe what the book says. Why is it respectful for Christians and the buy-bull to condemn everyone else, but not respectful for people to call bullshit on Christi[ns]anity and the buy-bull?