Supposedly the scuttle is that this song is in reference to Peter Gabriel who had decided to leave the band during the Lamb.
Any input?
I doubt very much that the band dis-regarded the man so much that they'd devote such a scathing song to an ex-member... but who knows how they felt?
Many fans think Gabriel was the brains behind the great (read: early 70's) Genesis but that is certainly not true, though he was undoubtedly an essential contributor. Frontmen often get too much credit from the public by virtue of their being the most immediate and in your face member. As much as I love the early Genesis, Gabriel bailed not only when he felt it right, but when the band had reached it's honest artistic apex. Everything that followed was "wish-it-were" followed by un-inspired parody followed by meaningless pop.
I think that this album does have a few statements done in an artistic way that refer to their split from Gabriel. The way that their songs split into arguably different songs but aren't really mentioned, you might even say that Mad Man Moon is pointing directly to the Moonlight Knight, and Squonk is pointing directly at Porcupine Heart. Squonks aren't particularly furry, but Phil Collins is suddenly being asked to make noises that his "little furry friend would make". And the song at the end of Entangled, the mournful sighing almost crying instrumental sounds like the squonk crying. I...
I think that this album does have a few statements done in an artistic way that refer to their split from Gabriel. The way that their songs split into arguably different songs but aren't really mentioned, you might even say that Mad Man Moon is pointing directly to the Moonlight Knight, and Squonk is pointing directly at Porcupine Heart. Squonks aren't particularly furry, but Phil Collins is suddenly being asked to make noises that his "little furry friend would make". And the song at the end of Entangled, the mournful sighing almost crying instrumental sounds like the squonk crying. I mean this could be somebody's way of saying something without saying something. It leads directly into the tale of a little creature who felt so much self-pity at it's situation in life that it led to it's own demise.
Keep in mind that this album was all before Gabriel's first solo album release, and his professional track had been uncertain in music, and he had already not had much success with his testing of Hollywood and theatre. So he had left the band to do what? Follow his melancholy dreams and hopefully become inspired again, find his direction in life? Well Banks and Rutherford certainly felt that the little group they had built with Gabriel was a great direction, and suddenly Peter felt like there was nothing more left in it for him? They felt left in the lurch, perhaps a bit betrayed, and while on some level they understood and respected his decision, on another level they had issues with it. And I think some of those issues made it into this album. --And poor Phil in the middle, says his goodbyes at the end of Los Endos.
We know that there was some resentment in Peter leaving the boys and tension around the Lamb era preceding Gabriel's exit. I mean I'm sure they could understand his leaving, but probably felt a little left at a disadvantage because of it. I think they probably felt Peter was being a little self-indulgent in his feelings about his later time with the group, his moment of personal and artistic crisis, and would have wanted him to "man up" and "power through it" for the sake of the band, and stay, instead of the philosophical route and the transformation he went through when he left.
Supposedly the scuttle is that this song is in reference to Peter Gabriel who had decided to leave the band during the Lamb.
Any input?
I doubt very much that the band dis-regarded the man so much that they'd devote such a scathing song to an ex-member... but who knows how they felt?
Many fans think Gabriel was the brains behind the great (read: early 70's) Genesis but that is certainly not true, though he was undoubtedly an essential contributor. Frontmen often get too much credit from the public by virtue of their being the most immediate and in your face member. As much as I love the early Genesis, Gabriel bailed not only when he felt it right, but when the band had reached it's honest artistic apex. Everything that followed was "wish-it-were" followed by un-inspired parody followed by meaningless pop.
I think that this album does have a few statements done in an artistic way that refer to their split from Gabriel. The way that their songs split into arguably different songs but aren't really mentioned, you might even say that Mad Man Moon is pointing directly to the Moonlight Knight, and Squonk is pointing directly at Porcupine Heart. Squonks aren't particularly furry, but Phil Collins is suddenly being asked to make noises that his "little furry friend would make". And the song at the end of Entangled, the mournful sighing almost crying instrumental sounds like the squonk crying. I...
I think that this album does have a few statements done in an artistic way that refer to their split from Gabriel. The way that their songs split into arguably different songs but aren't really mentioned, you might even say that Mad Man Moon is pointing directly to the Moonlight Knight, and Squonk is pointing directly at Porcupine Heart. Squonks aren't particularly furry, but Phil Collins is suddenly being asked to make noises that his "little furry friend would make". And the song at the end of Entangled, the mournful sighing almost crying instrumental sounds like the squonk crying. I mean this could be somebody's way of saying something without saying something. It leads directly into the tale of a little creature who felt so much self-pity at it's situation in life that it led to it's own demise.
Keep in mind that this album was all before Gabriel's first solo album release, and his professional track had been uncertain in music, and he had already not had much success with his testing of Hollywood and theatre. So he had left the band to do what? Follow his melancholy dreams and hopefully become inspired again, find his direction in life? Well Banks and Rutherford certainly felt that the little group they had built with Gabriel was a great direction, and suddenly Peter felt like there was nothing more left in it for him? They felt left in the lurch, perhaps a bit betrayed, and while on some level they understood and respected his decision, on another level they had issues with it. And I think some of those issues made it into this album. --And poor Phil in the middle, says his goodbyes at the end of Los Endos.
We know that there was some resentment in Peter leaving the boys and tension around the Lamb era preceding Gabriel's exit. I mean I'm sure they could understand his leaving, but probably felt a little left at a disadvantage because of it. I think they probably felt Peter was being a little self-indulgent in his feelings about his later time with the group, his moment of personal and artistic crisis, and would have wanted him to "man up" and "power through it" for the sake of the band, and stay, instead of the philosophical route and the transformation he went through when he left.