i think its about how, well, if there werent any white people, slavery wouldnt have gone on because black (african-american) would be the only race just about and they wouldnt make themselves into slaves now would they? would they...
@Rabster Bruh, I know you’re a dogwhistling guy from 2007, but the Egyptian rulers (the ones who used slaves to build said pyramids) were Berbers, not Arabs. Also, the Arab Conquest of Egypt didn’t begin until late-5th century CE (post-pyramid building).
Egypt, to this very day, isn’t even ethnically Arab — that’s called pan-Arabism. Egyptians have long been primarily a mix of Berbers, Arabs, Turks, countless other tribes/ethnic groups that populated North Africa, Middle East, and sub-Saharan Africa before the Greco-Romans, Ottomans, Persians, and Arabs took turns doing imperialism; which by definition is the whitewashing of identity (and religion) into one...
@Rabster Bruh, I know you’re a dogwhistling guy from 2007, but the Egyptian rulers (the ones who used slaves to build said pyramids) were Berbers, not Arabs. Also, the Arab Conquest of Egypt didn’t begin until late-5th century CE (post-pyramid building).
Egypt, to this very day, isn’t even ethnically Arab — that’s called pan-Arabism. Egyptians have long been primarily a mix of Berbers, Arabs, Turks, countless other tribes/ethnic groups that populated North Africa, Middle East, and sub-Saharan Africa before the Greco-Romans, Ottomans, Persians, and Arabs took turns doing imperialism; which by definition is the whitewashing of identity (and religion) into one central identity defined by the ruling empire. Some later empires (i.e. Persian & Ottoman) realized allowing multi-culturalism in their colonies often resulted in genuine loyalty from the natives of annexed land… which came in handy when needing soldiers to defend against the never-ending empires who still fight over this very land to this day.
Berbers, especially the Rulers & aristocrats, heavily mixed with Romans, Greeks, Turks, and other high-society individuals from a myriad of modern-day European countries, etc; which made them quite light-skinned. Likewise, Southern-European countries, plus France, Spain, and the Balkans; have long had large Berber populations (many pre-dating those who’d come to claim themselves the indigenous of these lands, along with several other ethnic groups), and many citizens of those countries today have quite a bit of Berber in ‘em.
If we get into defining an Arab, which thanks to modern-day pan-Arab movements, includes many many ethnicities — with many having even lighter-skinned than you. However, ethnic Arabs are from Saudi Arabia/Arabian Peninsula.
During repeated enslavements of the Jews and certain black sub-Saharan Africans (not all, because several African Kingdoms were highly respected by the Pharaohs & welcomed into their royal court for trade & military alliances) that built the pyramids in Ancient Egypt, the Pharaohs (aka Berber Kings) were literally in-bed with the Romans. Cleopatra was Roman. When the Roman Empire conquered Israel after winning the 3rd Jewish-Roman War (they lost the first 2 wars to the underdogs — the Jewish Maccabees), they sold most of the Jews into slavery in Egypt, while forcing the rest into the very first walled Jewish ghetto, which the Romans named “Judea” (a province inside Byzantine Israel).
So, at every turn — there were Romans, Greeks, and other assorted mostly white Europeans participating in slavery conducted under the Berbers & Arabs, and of course, under themselves in their own colonies.
And soon enough, the British would make themselves the new “Roman Empire,” but by “secretly” working with the Arabs in their proxy conquests — something they’d repeat in WWI to takedown the Ottoman Empire in the East, so the British could colonize both Egypt & Israel a’la Sykes-Picos following WWI). The same Brits who’d work with the new Arab-Berber regime ruling Egypt and other North African countries that participated in the black African slave trade at home, and eventually abroad — known as the Transatlantic slave trade.
History’s complicated! Why’d ya have to go and bring it up in a forum meant to ascribe clearer meaning to song lyrics? Because both you and @xscorpio303x had to butcher history, I had to come & correct both of y’all. Nowhere in the song does Pete mention slavery… and yet here we are. Because of racist rewrites of history to victim-blame the enslaved, while also denying the non-black slaves. Did you know the Irish were very briefly slaves right along with black Africans in British colonized North America?? The slave owners were beyond outnumbered, making them scared their slaves were gonna unite and slit their throats in the night… so they levered whiteness to sow division — something the Irish eventually leveraged until they not only weren’t slaves or indentured servants anymore, but until they were fully recognized as “whites” with all the same rights as the WASPs. Italians were never slaves, but they similarity leveraged their skin color & adoption of extremely racist views to attain whiteness in this country. This history is something Europeans can’t possibly understand about America. Hell, barely any Americans are even taught about it! Clearly.
Ever wonder why all the cops are Irish & Italian in the East Coast and Midwest??
Whiteness.
That’s how they gained societal acceptance despite importing European Catholicism… a very unpopular move.
So, of course, Peter Steele, a Polish-Irish Catholic from a predominantly Jewish & Catholic working-class/working-poor burrough in Brooklyn, was raised by a very Conservative family that harbored just as much prejudice as it did shame for sex (see: Catholic “kink” meaning behind the song “Christian Woman”). Pete, luckily, grew-up with Josh Silver (Type O Negative’s Keyboardist, eventual label owner, and frequent co-Producer w/ Steele) in the same neighborhood as his best friend. Josh, in case you forgot, is Jewish. Peter’s best friend, co-writer, and Type O Neg co-founder. Whatever happened with Carnivore while Pete was on Anal Blast records with all the death metal douches, was long left in the past. That was Pete’s upbringing, and well, the environment at that label. In later interviews, he even denounces Type O’s first album as something he regrets, admitting it was just “left over Carnivore songs.”
Pete overcame his family’s ways — which is more than I can say for 80% of the commenters here.
If you’re racist and you listen to Type O Negative, the joke’s quite literally on you. See this verse from “We Hate Everyone”:
Branded sexist
Labeled racist
Want it clearer?
Check the mirror
i think its about how, well, if there werent any white people, slavery wouldnt have gone on because black (african-american) would be the only race just about and they wouldnt make themselves into slaves now would they? would they...
The first slavers were the Arabs, look at the pyramids. White man didn't build them. Neither were they the first slavers.
The first slavers were the Arabs, look at the pyramids. White man didn't build them. Neither were they the first slavers.
@Rabster Bruh, I know you’re a dogwhistling guy from 2007, but the Egyptian rulers (the ones who used slaves to build said pyramids) were Berbers, not Arabs. Also, the Arab Conquest of Egypt didn’t begin until late-5th century CE (post-pyramid building). Egypt, to this very day, isn’t even ethnically Arab — that’s called pan-Arabism. Egyptians have long been primarily a mix of Berbers, Arabs, Turks, countless other tribes/ethnic groups that populated North Africa, Middle East, and sub-Saharan Africa before the Greco-Romans, Ottomans, Persians, and Arabs took turns doing imperialism; which by definition is the whitewashing of identity (and religion) into one...
@Rabster Bruh, I know you’re a dogwhistling guy from 2007, but the Egyptian rulers (the ones who used slaves to build said pyramids) were Berbers, not Arabs. Also, the Arab Conquest of Egypt didn’t begin until late-5th century CE (post-pyramid building). Egypt, to this very day, isn’t even ethnically Arab — that’s called pan-Arabism. Egyptians have long been primarily a mix of Berbers, Arabs, Turks, countless other tribes/ethnic groups that populated North Africa, Middle East, and sub-Saharan Africa before the Greco-Romans, Ottomans, Persians, and Arabs took turns doing imperialism; which by definition is the whitewashing of identity (and religion) into one central identity defined by the ruling empire. Some later empires (i.e. Persian & Ottoman) realized allowing multi-culturalism in their colonies often resulted in genuine loyalty from the natives of annexed land… which came in handy when needing soldiers to defend against the never-ending empires who still fight over this very land to this day.
Berbers, especially the Rulers & aristocrats, heavily mixed with Romans, Greeks, Turks, and other high-society individuals from a myriad of modern-day European countries, etc; which made them quite light-skinned. Likewise, Southern-European countries, plus France, Spain, and the Balkans; have long had large Berber populations (many pre-dating those who’d come to claim themselves the indigenous of these lands, along with several other ethnic groups), and many citizens of those countries today have quite a bit of Berber in ‘em.
If we get into defining an Arab, which thanks to modern-day pan-Arab movements, includes many many ethnicities — with many having even lighter-skinned than you. However, ethnic Arabs are from Saudi Arabia/Arabian Peninsula.
During repeated enslavements of the Jews and certain black sub-Saharan Africans (not all, because several African Kingdoms were highly respected by the Pharaohs & welcomed into their royal court for trade & military alliances) that built the pyramids in Ancient Egypt, the Pharaohs (aka Berber Kings) were literally in-bed with the Romans. Cleopatra was Roman. When the Roman Empire conquered Israel after winning the 3rd Jewish-Roman War (they lost the first 2 wars to the underdogs — the Jewish Maccabees), they sold most of the Jews into slavery in Egypt, while forcing the rest into the very first walled Jewish ghetto, which the Romans named “Judea” (a province inside Byzantine Israel). So, at every turn — there were Romans, Greeks, and other assorted mostly white Europeans participating in slavery conducted under the Berbers & Arabs, and of course, under themselves in their own colonies. And soon enough, the British would make themselves the new “Roman Empire,” but by “secretly” working with the Arabs in their proxy conquests — something they’d repeat in WWI to takedown the Ottoman Empire in the East, so the British could colonize both Egypt & Israel a’la Sykes-Picos following WWI). The same Brits who’d work with the new Arab-Berber regime ruling Egypt and other North African countries that participated in the black African slave trade at home, and eventually abroad — known as the Transatlantic slave trade.
History’s complicated! Why’d ya have to go and bring it up in a forum meant to ascribe clearer meaning to song lyrics? Because both you and @xscorpio303x had to butcher history, I had to come & correct both of y’all. Nowhere in the song does Pete mention slavery… and yet here we are. Because of racist rewrites of history to victim-blame the enslaved, while also denying the non-black slaves. Did you know the Irish were very briefly slaves right along with black Africans in British colonized North America?? The slave owners were beyond outnumbered, making them scared their slaves were gonna unite and slit their throats in the night… so they levered whiteness to sow division — something the Irish eventually leveraged until they not only weren’t slaves or indentured servants anymore, but until they were fully recognized as “whites” with all the same rights as the WASPs. Italians were never slaves, but they similarity leveraged their skin color & adoption of extremely racist views to attain whiteness in this country. This history is something Europeans can’t possibly understand about America. Hell, barely any Americans are even taught about it! Clearly. Ever wonder why all the cops are Irish & Italian in the East Coast and Midwest?? Whiteness. That’s how they gained societal acceptance despite importing European Catholicism… a very unpopular move.
So, of course, Peter Steele, a Polish-Irish Catholic from a predominantly Jewish & Catholic working-class/working-poor burrough in Brooklyn, was raised by a very Conservative family that harbored just as much prejudice as it did shame for sex (see: Catholic “kink” meaning behind the song “Christian Woman”). Pete, luckily, grew-up with Josh Silver (Type O Negative’s Keyboardist, eventual label owner, and frequent co-Producer w/ Steele) in the same neighborhood as his best friend. Josh, in case you forgot, is Jewish. Peter’s best friend, co-writer, and Type O Neg co-founder. Whatever happened with Carnivore while Pete was on Anal Blast records with all the death metal douches, was long left in the past. That was Pete’s upbringing, and well, the environment at that label. In later interviews, he even denounces Type O’s first album as something he regrets, admitting it was just “left over Carnivore songs.” Pete overcame his family’s ways — which is more than I can say for 80% of the commenters here.
If you’re racist and you listen to Type O Negative, the joke’s quite literally on you. See this verse from “We Hate Everyone”:
Branded sexist Labeled racist Want it clearer? Check the mirror