I read somewhere that Jimmy wrote this song for a deceased friend of his that had killed himself. He wrote it because he was sick of hearing sad songs about dead people especially since there are always good things to remember about them.
He wanted to write a kinda tribute that celebrated his friend..
This was all in magazine I read which had an interview with MMJ's front man.. He said something that stuck with me:
He said that depressed people are put on anti depressants too soon and that no-one should ever feel that life is so bad that they have to take they're own life.
He said, if things get real low, move town, leave the country, start again, do anything but don't go kill yourself.
Makes sense doesn't it!
I have a very rare, special & unique insight into this song. I know many people involved both personally & loosely as acquaintances. It is abt a friend who died. He had several clandestine, discreet, NSA homosexual relationships when straight men, curious, experimenting or just horny.
First off, these lyrics are wrong in VERY bad ways! A closer look @ what is actually said tells a far more revealing picture about the relationship btwn Jimmy & his dead friend & possibly why he committed suicide. This together w/ other songs talks about Jimmy's homosexual exploration. Only...
I have a very rare, special & unique insight into this song. I know many people involved both personally & loosely as acquaintances. It is abt a friend who died. He had several clandestine, discreet, NSA homosexual relationships when straight men, curious, experimenting or just horny.
First off, these lyrics are wrong in VERY bad ways! A closer look @ what is actually said tells a far more revealing picture about the relationship btwn Jimmy & his dead friend & possibly why he committed suicide. This together w/ other songs talks about Jimmy's homosexual exploration. Only in the lyrics, it is reminiscent of Morrissey's "Come Back to Camden" (also about gay exploration among straight working men) where he also says, "I knew, I just knew" & here Jimmy's saying, "I knew exactly what he meant" & "I wanted ice cream, he knew exactly what i meant" Even the scenario MMJ paints of two guys driving in a car listing to music & interpreting for deeper meaning...a little gay I say- which is ok & even cool! "he lead us through the dark (sexual exploration)...love goes on (evolves & can be more than man & woman- it can be man & man) "I was wanting some ice cream, he knew exactly what I meant" (Not only is Jimmy saying he needed to "cool dwn" cuz' he was getting "too hot" thus, wanting ice cream. As for the double entendre, I'll let u do the research about what this references. Check Urban Dictionary Gay Terms- but its GAY! Trust me!) The references to the devilishness & how they go along for a while, but then his friend goes his own way. By go his own way I think MMJ says he couldn't reconcile his perceived "Evil Urges" (the title of the following album) & committed suicide "I knew for sure" (that his frnd was gay; they had sex) The lyrics above INCORRECTLY say he says "NEVER knew..." That's just wrong & that changes the message in a MAJOR way "the day I found out his cause" (suicide resulting frm gay shame. MMJ endorses the Tyler Clemte Memorial the Trevor Project) Also, "he did it for all of us" is saying his suicide was to protect others from scandal & disgrace. MAJOR OMISSIONS in these lyrics include "What a sensuous Man!" @ 1:30 in the song. Also another MAJOR & VERY TELLING OMISSIONS are the last words of the song. Then the song's final words "A beast to suck him off! YEAH!!!" I encourage everybody to back & look @ much of MMJ's work. Its very progressive & discusses @ the very least flirting w/ homosexuality. And, not in a black & white sorta' way. Human emotions, attractions & sexuality is FAR more complex than gay/str8/bi. At different points in life those distinctions blur for a multitude of personal reasons. MMJ puts that to art & music & encourages us to explore through dialogue- IF you can interpret the lyrics & their intentions properly. Here are the corrected lyrics:
He was leading us thru the dark.
He was sayin' that "love goes on."
I was wanting some "ice cream."
He knew exactly what I meant.
From the driver's seat in the dark. He popped a tape in the dash of his car.
And when the singer started to scream.
I knew exactly what he meant.
I never knew for sure, what a wonderful man he was.
What a sensible man he was.
What a wonderful man he was.
I knew for sure,
what a wonderful man he was.
What a sensuous man he was.
What a wonderful man he was.
Why do we love what is wrong?
big devil told us to sing along.
And like a loving flock we obey,
except 4 him, he went his own way.
I knew for sure, what a wonderful man he was.
Till the day I found out his cause, was to do it for all of us
a beast to suck him off
I read somewhere that Jimmy wrote this song for a deceased friend of his that had killed himself. He wrote it because he was sick of hearing sad songs about dead people especially since there are always good things to remember about them. He wanted to write a kinda tribute that celebrated his friend..
This was all in magazine I read which had an interview with MMJ's front man.. He said something that stuck with me: He said that depressed people are put on anti depressants too soon and that no-one should ever feel that life is so bad that they have to take they're own life. He said, if things get real low, move town, leave the country, start again, do anything but don't go kill yourself. Makes sense doesn't it!
I have a very rare, special & unique insight into this song. I know many people involved both personally & loosely as acquaintances. It is abt a friend who died. He had several clandestine, discreet, NSA homosexual relationships when straight men, curious, experimenting or just horny. First off, these lyrics are wrong in VERY bad ways! A closer look @ what is actually said tells a far more revealing picture about the relationship btwn Jimmy & his dead friend & possibly why he committed suicide. This together w/ other songs talks about Jimmy's homosexual exploration. Only...
I have a very rare, special & unique insight into this song. I know many people involved both personally & loosely as acquaintances. It is abt a friend who died. He had several clandestine, discreet, NSA homosexual relationships when straight men, curious, experimenting or just horny. First off, these lyrics are wrong in VERY bad ways! A closer look @ what is actually said tells a far more revealing picture about the relationship btwn Jimmy & his dead friend & possibly why he committed suicide. This together w/ other songs talks about Jimmy's homosexual exploration. Only in the lyrics, it is reminiscent of Morrissey's "Come Back to Camden" (also about gay exploration among straight working men) where he also says, "I knew, I just knew" & here Jimmy's saying, "I knew exactly what he meant" & "I wanted ice cream, he knew exactly what i meant" Even the scenario MMJ paints of two guys driving in a car listing to music & interpreting for deeper meaning...a little gay I say- which is ok & even cool! "he lead us through the dark (sexual exploration)...love goes on (evolves & can be more than man & woman- it can be man & man) "I was wanting some ice cream, he knew exactly what I meant" (Not only is Jimmy saying he needed to "cool dwn" cuz' he was getting "too hot" thus, wanting ice cream. As for the double entendre, I'll let u do the research about what this references. Check Urban Dictionary Gay Terms- but its GAY! Trust me!) The references to the devilishness & how they go along for a while, but then his friend goes his own way. By go his own way I think MMJ says he couldn't reconcile his perceived "Evil Urges" (the title of the following album) & committed suicide "I knew for sure" (that his frnd was gay; they had sex) The lyrics above INCORRECTLY say he says "NEVER knew..." That's just wrong & that changes the message in a MAJOR way "the day I found out his cause" (suicide resulting frm gay shame. MMJ endorses the Tyler Clemte Memorial the Trevor Project) Also, "he did it for all of us" is saying his suicide was to protect others from scandal & disgrace. MAJOR OMISSIONS in these lyrics include "What a sensuous Man!" @ 1:30 in the song. Also another MAJOR & VERY TELLING OMISSIONS are the last words of the song. Then the song's final words "A beast to suck him off! YEAH!!!" I encourage everybody to back & look @ much of MMJ's work. Its very progressive & discusses @ the very least flirting w/ homosexuality. And, not in a black & white sorta' way. Human emotions, attractions & sexuality is FAR more complex than gay/str8/bi. At different points in life those distinctions blur for a multitude of personal reasons. MMJ puts that to art & music & encourages us to explore through dialogue- IF you can interpret the lyrics & their intentions properly. Here are the corrected lyrics:
He was leading us thru the dark. He was sayin' that "love goes on." I was wanting some "ice cream." He knew exactly what I meant. From the driver's seat in the dark. He popped a tape in the dash of his car. And when the singer started to scream. I knew exactly what he meant. I never knew for sure, what a wonderful man he was. What a sensible man he was. What a wonderful man he was. I knew for sure, what a wonderful man he was. What a sensuous man he was. What a wonderful man he was. Why do we love what is wrong? big devil told us to sing along. And like a loving flock we obey, except 4 him, he went his own way. I knew for sure, what a wonderful man he was. Till the day I found out his cause, was to do it for all of us a beast to suck him off