Lyric discussion by hipshot 

Cover art for Waterfall lyrics by Stone Roses, The

This is an astonishing song, great riff and those lyrics... I'm not a flag waver or anything but I think this is one of the most profoundly patriotic songs i've ever heard. Britain's got its faults, its old and creaky, it lives in the past etc, but despite being almost submerged by the influence of US culture it carries on in its rickety eccentric way. The absolute master stroke is that the song is in the style of a sea shanty with Ian Brown doing his folky best to sound like a 19th century troubador. Effin Brillliant!

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@hipshot I'm not sure about the sea shanty bit or about Brown being like a troubador, but I can definitely see what you mean about it in the patriotic sense. I had never listened to it in that way before. I dont see how the first two verses fit in to that thought, though?

@hipshot There is no influence of US culture in Britain you retard. America speaks our language, listens to our music, and even follows our legal code. Britain has no "rickety eccentric" way, one shitty country that sticks to a 230 year old "2nd Amendment" certainly does though.

@joseph1052 I’m sorry, Joseph, but where do you think the work derogatory insult, “retard” comes from? You are very wrong to think British culture hasn’t been influenced by true U.S. It has, however, go both ways. They have influenced each other. Pretty much all British music has been influenced by, or directly imitates, American music made since the birth jazz, blues and rock and roll, and later with punk, rap and hip hop. There would be no Beatles, no Stones (Just a couple of obvious examples out of the thousands and thousands) and definitely no Stone Roses without the influence...