Very fair comment dude. I try not to hit the "biblical reference" note too much unless its patently obvious..which it not always is with Thrice's subtle use of metaphors and imagery. Vheissu is a classic example of this as it often insinuates imortant moral values whether Christian or not e.g. "Stand and feel your worth, oh my soul.."/"Hold fast Hope!" promotes a great message regardless of its base (theological or not). So I guess I'm agreeing that we shouldn't automatically hit the Bible button if a line has a morally positive note to it, though some times it is too painstakingly obvious, as in the song "Like Moths to flame".
@ScarecrowNZ well it's not about whether someone is hitting the bible button or not, it's about the truth not what he or she thinks, be- cause those who actually read and study the bible would already understand the meaning of this song which is actually talking about "Of Dust and Nations" the nations under dust...a symbolistic term for nations facing destruction. (Who cares if someone says "you always hit that bible button, shut up" that's because they're stupid and lack knowledge). Yes the Vheissu album lyrics are mentioned from the bible which he uses, kind of a lot, but anyways...
@ScarecrowNZ well it's not about whether someone is hitting the bible button or not, it's about the truth not what he or she thinks, be- cause those who actually read and study the bible would already understand the meaning of this song which is actually talking about "Of Dust and Nations" the nations under dust...a symbolistic term for nations facing destruction. (Who cares if someone says "you always hit that bible button, shut up" that's because they're stupid and lack knowledge). Yes the Vheissu album lyrics are mentioned from the bible which he uses, kind of a lot, but anyways this song is referring to Armageddon-yes the end of this system of things. "The towers that shoulder your pride, the words you've written in stone sand will cover them, sand will cover you" lyric is referring to the destruction of nations and those who devote themselves to it rather than devoting themselves to God. This song is basically explaining in personification that God is going to put an end to all things wicked as its foretold in the bible. Another lyric "so put your faith in more than steel, don't store your treasures up with moth and rust, where thieves break in and steal." Is referring to protecting your faith and spirituality (no not spirituality like a way of being religious..i mean actual Holy Spirit) from those who could corrupt your obedience and devotion to YAHWEH (which is translated from Hebrew meaning JAH or JEHOVAH) (yes Gods real name PSALMS 83:18 but some bibles will say LORD). "Pull the fangs from out your heel" is referring to repenting from sin or removing oneself from sin or Satan's snares. If that doesn't make sense allow me to elaborate... The phrase move the fangs from out your heel is symbolical; fangs from a serpent which is Satan the devil who is misleading the entire inhabited earth. In symbolical terms... the serpent in which the person stepped on is symbolical for stumbling or sinning. And the reason that distinction is so important is that we sin because we're not perfect, we're born into sin but y'all have to remember that Satan knows what we like and simply puts temptation in front of us and unfortunately- giving in, kind of like a trap or trick. Hence the symbolism of the fangs in the heel (stepping on satans snares or stumbling). Or in other words if you're not careful you could step in satans snare or trap. That's why it's prudent to study the bible-- to learn how to avoid such snares -- but that's another thing. Anywho that was just the fang in the heel meaning. "We live in but a shadow of the real", now that.. I don't think it's biblical but I think it's generalizing how people are living in contrast of the truth when it comes down to what gods standards are truthfully. Point being is that a lot of people who claim that are Christians don't really follow Jesus' teachings (sometimes unknowingly because that's just what they were taught), but follow misguided teachings. Though some are taught the truth about the bible but don't adjust to God's standards because simply it will disrupt they're comfortable lives or they they won't be able to do what they normally do in their former beliefs; hence shadow of the real-- living seperate lives from the truth. Bottom line this song is the depiction of the bible prophecy warning us of the destruction of this system of things--to repent and hope JAH will show us mercy on the day of Judgement or Gods wrath. I know this was a long shot but that's how profound this song is. There are some who are saying this song talks about being hospitable and sugar and spice and everything nice. Or it talks about love and all that jazz but I tell you it's NOT. This is a serious message; and if you ask me it's kinda frightening. If any of you would like to elaborate the rest of the lyrics comment so I can reply. And those who think I'm full of crap and think I'm an exteremist. I'm sorry you feel that way. Oh and for those who agree or somewhat agree. I'm curious, if you believe the End is coming, what do you think it will be like on judgement day?
Very fair comment dude. I try not to hit the "biblical reference" note too much unless its patently obvious..which it not always is with Thrice's subtle use of metaphors and imagery. Vheissu is a classic example of this as it often insinuates imortant moral values whether Christian or not e.g. "Stand and feel your worth, oh my soul.."/"Hold fast Hope!" promotes a great message regardless of its base (theological or not). So I guess I'm agreeing that we shouldn't automatically hit the Bible button if a line has a morally positive note to it, though some times it is too painstakingly obvious, as in the song "Like Moths to flame".
@ScarecrowNZ well it's not about whether someone is hitting the bible button or not, it's about the truth not what he or she thinks, be- cause those who actually read and study the bible would already understand the meaning of this song which is actually talking about "Of Dust and Nations" the nations under dust...a symbolistic term for nations facing destruction. (Who cares if someone says "you always hit that bible button, shut up" that's because they're stupid and lack knowledge). Yes the Vheissu album lyrics are mentioned from the bible which he uses, kind of a lot, but anyways...
@ScarecrowNZ well it's not about whether someone is hitting the bible button or not, it's about the truth not what he or she thinks, be- cause those who actually read and study the bible would already understand the meaning of this song which is actually talking about "Of Dust and Nations" the nations under dust...a symbolistic term for nations facing destruction. (Who cares if someone says "you always hit that bible button, shut up" that's because they're stupid and lack knowledge). Yes the Vheissu album lyrics are mentioned from the bible which he uses, kind of a lot, but anyways this song is referring to Armageddon-yes the end of this system of things. "The towers that shoulder your pride, the words you've written in stone sand will cover them, sand will cover you" lyric is referring to the destruction of nations and those who devote themselves to it rather than devoting themselves to God. This song is basically explaining in personification that God is going to put an end to all things wicked as its foretold in the bible. Another lyric "so put your faith in more than steel, don't store your treasures up with moth and rust, where thieves break in and steal." Is referring to protecting your faith and spirituality (no not spirituality like a way of being religious..i mean actual Holy Spirit) from those who could corrupt your obedience and devotion to YAHWEH (which is translated from Hebrew meaning JAH or JEHOVAH) (yes Gods real name PSALMS 83:18 but some bibles will say LORD). "Pull the fangs from out your heel" is referring to repenting from sin or removing oneself from sin or Satan's snares. If that doesn't make sense allow me to elaborate... The phrase move the fangs from out your heel is symbolical; fangs from a serpent which is Satan the devil who is misleading the entire inhabited earth. In symbolical terms... the serpent in which the person stepped on is symbolical for stumbling or sinning. And the reason that distinction is so important is that we sin because we're not perfect, we're born into sin but y'all have to remember that Satan knows what we like and simply puts temptation in front of us and unfortunately- giving in, kind of like a trap or trick. Hence the symbolism of the fangs in the heel (stepping on satans snares or stumbling). Or in other words if you're not careful you could step in satans snare or trap. That's why it's prudent to study the bible-- to learn how to avoid such snares -- but that's another thing. Anywho that was just the fang in the heel meaning. "We live in but a shadow of the real", now that.. I don't think it's biblical but I think it's generalizing how people are living in contrast of the truth when it comes down to what gods standards are truthfully. Point being is that a lot of people who claim that are Christians don't really follow Jesus' teachings (sometimes unknowingly because that's just what they were taught), but follow misguided teachings. Though some are taught the truth about the bible but don't adjust to God's standards because simply it will disrupt they're comfortable lives or they they won't be able to do what they normally do in their former beliefs; hence shadow of the real-- living seperate lives from the truth. Bottom line this song is the depiction of the bible prophecy warning us of the destruction of this system of things--to repent and hope JAH will show us mercy on the day of Judgement or Gods wrath. I know this was a long shot but that's how profound this song is. There are some who are saying this song talks about being hospitable and sugar and spice and everything nice. Or it talks about love and all that jazz but I tell you it's NOT. This is a serious message; and if you ask me it's kinda frightening. If any of you would like to elaborate the rest of the lyrics comment so I can reply. And those who think I'm full of crap and think I'm an exteremist. I'm sorry you feel that way. Oh and for those who agree or somewhat agree. I'm curious, if you believe the End is coming, what do you think it will be like on judgement day?