This was originally Dylan written, and he was always anti-big brother in his leanings. And of course, RATM has never been backwards in coming forwards in their views about the US and capitalism. (btw, does anyone else feel that there has never been a cover of a Dylan song that wasn't better than the original? Dylan's a great song writer - no question - but he can't sing for shit)
I always felt that 'Maggie's Farm' is actually an analogy for the US of A. Each member of Maggie's family is actually a metaphor for a different aspect of US society.
1) Maggie=US. Doesn't listen to a word the workers say.
2) Brother=coprporations. Pays out a pittance and pretends to be friendly, but you do any little thing to piss them off, they sue (or dock pay, or fine, whatever)
3) Pa=cops/military
4) Ma=religion. Is excessively old (and arguably so old its out of touch) but it still claims its relevance while controlling the enforcer.
The last bit's interesting but it has a minor change to Dylan's original. Dylan wrote (and whined):
"They sing while you slave and I just get bored."
RATM scream: "They sing, while they slave and just get bored"
I'm not sure who the 'they' is of both, but I'm sure they're refering to different groups. In fact the 'They' in the RATM version is probably referring to two. the first is the People in charge and the ones who get bored; everybody else are the ones who slave.
Anyway, as I said, it's just a theory
(btw, this is my first time posting, so please be gentle)
they are the slave owners and maggie's farm is a plantation. you can take both and use them as analogies for the U.S. today. mainly, because we are still in slavery, just not exactly the same as 400 yrs ago.
they are the slave owners and maggie's farm is a plantation. you can take both and use them as analogies for the U.S. today. mainly, because we are still in slavery, just not exactly the same as 400 yrs ago.
don't be so rigid. this song is not that complicated. you can't say that brother is corporations with any more certainty than you can say the Mona Lisa isn't smiling because she lost her job. It's not that rigid. It's just about oppression and resistance, and like good art, it leaves room for interpretation. (and Mona Lisa was probably just bored).
don't be so rigid. this song is not that complicated. you can't say that brother is corporations with any more certainty than you can say the Mona Lisa isn't smiling because she lost her job. It's not that rigid. It's just about oppression and resistance, and like good art, it leaves room for interpretation. (and Mona Lisa was probably just bored).
@Pretentious arse I agree with everything but who Ma is. I believe Ma is the Government itself House of Representatives/Senators/President etc. The line that makes me believe that is "She's 68 but swears she's 24" like how they make the rules for people today but their views are from the time and age that they grew up in.
@Pretentious arse I agree with everything but who Ma is. I believe Ma is the Government itself House of Representatives/Senators/President etc. The line that makes me believe that is "She's 68 but swears she's 24" like how they make the rules for people today but their views are from the time and age that they grew up in.
@Pretentious arse I think I remember reading that Dylan's original was largely about against record labels and the music industry in general. They wanted him to keep singing gospel / folk songs and he pretty much gave them a big NO, and wrote this song.
@Pretentious arse I think I remember reading that Dylan's original was largely about against record labels and the music industry in general. They wanted him to keep singing gospel / folk songs and he pretty much gave them a big NO, and wrote this song.
I agree that this is a great cover ... I thought Rage didn't an awesome jobs with all their covers on Renegades, gave most of them a new edge and slant.
I agree that this is a great cover ... I thought Rage didn't an awesome jobs with all their covers on Renegades, gave most of them a new edge and slant.
I have a theory:
This was originally Dylan written, and he was always anti-big brother in his leanings. And of course, RATM has never been backwards in coming forwards in their views about the US and capitalism. (btw, does anyone else feel that there has never been a cover of a Dylan song that wasn't better than the original? Dylan's a great song writer - no question - but he can't sing for shit)
I always felt that 'Maggie's Farm' is actually an analogy for the US of A. Each member of Maggie's family is actually a metaphor for a different aspect of US society.
1) Maggie=US. Doesn't listen to a word the workers say. 2) Brother=coprporations. Pays out a pittance and pretends to be friendly, but you do any little thing to piss them off, they sue (or dock pay, or fine, whatever) 3) Pa=cops/military 4) Ma=religion. Is excessively old (and arguably so old its out of touch) but it still claims its relevance while controlling the enforcer.
The last bit's interesting but it has a minor change to Dylan's original. Dylan wrote (and whined): "They sing while you slave and I just get bored." RATM scream: "They sing, while they slave and just get bored"
I'm not sure who the 'they' is of both, but I'm sure they're refering to different groups. In fact the 'They' in the RATM version is probably referring to two. the first is the People in charge and the ones who get bored; everybody else are the ones who slave.
Anyway, as I said, it's just a theory
(btw, this is my first time posting, so please be gentle)
they are the slave owners and maggie's farm is a plantation. you can take both and use them as analogies for the U.S. today. mainly, because we are still in slavery, just not exactly the same as 400 yrs ago.
they are the slave owners and maggie's farm is a plantation. you can take both and use them as analogies for the U.S. today. mainly, because we are still in slavery, just not exactly the same as 400 yrs ago.
don't be so rigid. this song is not that complicated. you can't say that brother is corporations with any more certainty than you can say the Mona Lisa isn't smiling because she lost her job. It's not that rigid. It's just about oppression and resistance, and like good art, it leaves room for interpretation. (and Mona Lisa was probably just bored).
don't be so rigid. this song is not that complicated. you can't say that brother is corporations with any more certainty than you can say the Mona Lisa isn't smiling because she lost her job. It's not that rigid. It's just about oppression and resistance, and like good art, it leaves room for interpretation. (and Mona Lisa was probably just bored).
@Pretentious arse I agree with everything but who Ma is. I believe Ma is the Government itself House of Representatives/Senators/President etc. The line that makes me believe that is "She's 68 but swears she's 24" like how they make the rules for people today but their views are from the time and age that they grew up in.
@Pretentious arse I agree with everything but who Ma is. I believe Ma is the Government itself House of Representatives/Senators/President etc. The line that makes me believe that is "She's 68 but swears she's 24" like how they make the rules for people today but their views are from the time and age that they grew up in.
@Pretentious arse I think I remember reading that Dylan's original was largely about against record labels and the music industry in general. They wanted him to keep singing gospel / folk songs and he pretty much gave them a big NO, and wrote this song.
@Pretentious arse I think I remember reading that Dylan's original was largely about against record labels and the music industry in general. They wanted him to keep singing gospel / folk songs and he pretty much gave them a big NO, and wrote this song.
I agree that this is a great cover ... I thought Rage didn't an awesome jobs with all their covers on Renegades, gave most of them a new edge and slant.
I agree that this is a great cover ... I thought Rage didn't an awesome jobs with all their covers on Renegades, gave most of them a new edge and slant.