Could be, but I think not. The truth should out about the Floyd frauds - Gilmour gimmemore & Waters tortures.
This is virtually the only song that's purely about Pink Floyd - and they're Baby Lemonade..
Virtually all of Madcap Laughs is a communication wanting his lost love to come back. When that fell on deaf ears and wasn’t understood or was ignored (less obvious than it should have been cos Gilmour had sabotaged it by stealing Opel), he did that very upbeat Radio session and played Baby Lem for the first time.
With Baby Lem, I think he tried to turn over a new leaf and communicate with Floyd to prompt them to ask him back (his second priority after his woman).
It's unusually & extremely organised and repetitive and looks like he's really tried to build it constructively - rather than it emerging whole all quantum like – like Wolfpack.
He's in the distance where the rain is falling - Cambridge or London & Floyd are off in the regions at a festival (he didn't like playing outside of London as the audience weren't as open-minded). So they've sold out and are just being commercial, part of a circus.
Floyd are the clowns because they are working with a 'this will entertain' veneer that's really just a humiliating joke, and the iron hands are the closed minded, cast & inflexible audience who's demand for easy listening is steering HIS band.
The cage through the post is the cheque Floyd used to send him (which stopped him really being able to complain about their treatment of him and stopped him 'needing' to do other work). The sun going up and down is his life passing him by quickly - without occasion or event to pin it too & slow it down. Everything wasted, all because of nasty Floyd his so-called friends.
As someone with an absolute soul, he couldn't apologise or back down so it's all abstract. Instead of 'sorry' & 'I want to come back' which would put him at their mercy and was a surrender he couldn't offer, he explained his faults, or rather what Floyd had complained about - his inability with time, reality, organisation and his weirdness - but then what's changed? Nothing with him* - I was weird (screaming) when you met me.
It was of course Floyd that had changed - power stealers like Waters & encroachers like Gilmour are at first always ready to follow - in the Wolfpack - they have to cos they don't know on their own. But as soon as the path is found by another, they're very quick to step up as the new leader.
It's incredibly sad that they ignored him because they must have understood, and it's even worse because more than that - they actually manipulated his abstract protests & demonstrations to their advantage. To the media Floyd maintained it was just more evidence he'd gone mad - and that's still the misconception.
The song ended up on Barrett with Wolfpack - also about Floyd but much more aggressive because they'd ignored Baby Lem. The rest of the Barrett album songs are about him mourning lost love (having accepted it’s lost), or being cynical about this crappy society.
*Effervescing Elephant & Bob Dylan Blues were his first songs, written pre Floyd, but they were just like his post Floyd stuff. So Syd's ability didn't deteriorate, the only thing that had changed was other peoples assumptions of him and how they used him. Syd was, and is, NOT mad or ill, just pissed off - and quite rightly so. Flipping architects. Gilmour knicked and hid Bob Dylan Blues too - didn't give it back till just recently (hence the recent release of Syds greatest hits - in order to issue that). I wonder if the tune to Crazy Diamond and other great 'Floyd' achievements were also stolen?
THat's a brilliantly thought through and written assessment. I've never thought about Syd not wanting to play outside of London. That explains his tendancy to sabatoge American shows and TV appearances by not playing.
I think there were certain aspects to Floyd's early success (being able to wear fancy clothes and put mirrors on his guitar, and make a living hanging out with the people at the UFO club.)
I don't think Syd suffered from anything other than a glamourized nervous breakdown. Pink Floyd turned it into mythology by mentioning his "madness" in songs (ie: Brain Dammage, Shine On You Crazy Diamond,...
THat's a brilliantly thought through and written assessment. I've never thought about Syd not wanting to play outside of London. That explains his tendancy to sabatoge American shows and TV appearances by not playing.
I think there were certain aspects to Floyd's early success (being able to wear fancy clothes and put mirrors on his guitar, and make a living hanging out with the people at the UFO club.)
I don't think Syd suffered from anything other than a glamourized nervous breakdown. Pink Floyd turned it into mythology by mentioning his "madness" in songs (ie: Brain Dammage, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, etc).
He was a brilliant artist.
Yup I think thats nailed it!
I think Syd was mentally ill however (not Schitzo)but certainly depression. Also drug addiction (Mandrex)and later in life by all accounts a brief stint with alcoholism (10 pints of Guinness).He also had a stomach ulcer I belive.
Yup I think thats nailed it!
I think Syd was mentally ill however (not Schitzo)but certainly depression. Also drug addiction (Mandrex)and later in life by all accounts a brief stint with alcoholism (10 pints of Guinness).He also had a stomach ulcer I belive.
@Black&GreenAchilles Brillant observations of one of my favorite composers and musicians. You show so much insight to his mind. I never thought he was insane, just totally misunderstood. He saw the world in a completely different way. I watched a rerun of the "The X-Files" last night and Syd's music played heavily into the personality of the kid in it. I heard the music in the background and it was perfect. Bravo and cheers my friend. You wrote this is 2005 so I hope yo get this.
@Black&GreenAchilles Brillant observations of one of my favorite composers and musicians. You show so much insight to his mind. I never thought he was insane, just totally misunderstood. He saw the world in a completely different way. I watched a rerun of the "The X-Files" last night and Syd's music played heavily into the personality of the kid in it. I heard the music in the background and it was perfect. Bravo and cheers my friend. You wrote this is 2005 so I hope yo get this.
Could be, but I think not. The truth should out about the Floyd frauds - Gilmour gimmemore & Waters tortures.
This is virtually the only song that's purely about Pink Floyd - and they're Baby Lemonade..
Virtually all of Madcap Laughs is a communication wanting his lost love to come back. When that fell on deaf ears and wasn’t understood or was ignored (less obvious than it should have been cos Gilmour had sabotaged it by stealing Opel), he did that very upbeat Radio session and played Baby Lem for the first time.
With Baby Lem, I think he tried to turn over a new leaf and communicate with Floyd to prompt them to ask him back (his second priority after his woman).
It's unusually & extremely organised and repetitive and looks like he's really tried to build it constructively - rather than it emerging whole all quantum like – like Wolfpack.
He's in the distance where the rain is falling - Cambridge or London & Floyd are off in the regions at a festival (he didn't like playing outside of London as the audience weren't as open-minded). So they've sold out and are just being commercial, part of a circus.
Floyd are the clowns because they are working with a 'this will entertain' veneer that's really just a humiliating joke, and the iron hands are the closed minded, cast & inflexible audience who's demand for easy listening is steering HIS band.
The cage through the post is the cheque Floyd used to send him (which stopped him really being able to complain about their treatment of him and stopped him 'needing' to do other work). The sun going up and down is his life passing him by quickly - without occasion or event to pin it too & slow it down. Everything wasted, all because of nasty Floyd his so-called friends.
As someone with an absolute soul, he couldn't apologise or back down so it's all abstract. Instead of 'sorry' & 'I want to come back' which would put him at their mercy and was a surrender he couldn't offer, he explained his faults, or rather what Floyd had complained about - his inability with time, reality, organisation and his weirdness - but then what's changed? Nothing with him* - I was weird (screaming) when you met me.
It was of course Floyd that had changed - power stealers like Waters & encroachers like Gilmour are at first always ready to follow - in the Wolfpack - they have to cos they don't know on their own. But as soon as the path is found by another, they're very quick to step up as the new leader.
It's incredibly sad that they ignored him because they must have understood, and it's even worse because more than that - they actually manipulated his abstract protests & demonstrations to their advantage. To the media Floyd maintained it was just more evidence he'd gone mad - and that's still the misconception.
The song ended up on Barrett with Wolfpack - also about Floyd but much more aggressive because they'd ignored Baby Lem. The rest of the Barrett album songs are about him mourning lost love (having accepted it’s lost), or being cynical about this crappy society.
*Effervescing Elephant & Bob Dylan Blues were his first songs, written pre Floyd, but they were just like his post Floyd stuff. So Syd's ability didn't deteriorate, the only thing that had changed was other peoples assumptions of him and how they used him. Syd was, and is, NOT mad or ill, just pissed off - and quite rightly so. Flipping architects. Gilmour knicked and hid Bob Dylan Blues too - didn't give it back till just recently (hence the recent release of Syds greatest hits - in order to issue that). I wonder if the tune to Crazy Diamond and other great 'Floyd' achievements were also stolen?
THat's a brilliantly thought through and written assessment. I've never thought about Syd not wanting to play outside of London. That explains his tendancy to sabatoge American shows and TV appearances by not playing. I think there were certain aspects to Floyd's early success (being able to wear fancy clothes and put mirrors on his guitar, and make a living hanging out with the people at the UFO club.) I don't think Syd suffered from anything other than a glamourized nervous breakdown. Pink Floyd turned it into mythology by mentioning his "madness" in songs (ie: Brain Dammage, Shine On You Crazy Diamond,...
THat's a brilliantly thought through and written assessment. I've never thought about Syd not wanting to play outside of London. That explains his tendancy to sabatoge American shows and TV appearances by not playing. I think there were certain aspects to Floyd's early success (being able to wear fancy clothes and put mirrors on his guitar, and make a living hanging out with the people at the UFO club.) I don't think Syd suffered from anything other than a glamourized nervous breakdown. Pink Floyd turned it into mythology by mentioning his "madness" in songs (ie: Brain Dammage, Shine On You Crazy Diamond, etc). He was a brilliant artist.
Yup I think thats nailed it! I think Syd was mentally ill however (not Schitzo)but certainly depression. Also drug addiction (Mandrex)and later in life by all accounts a brief stint with alcoholism (10 pints of Guinness).He also had a stomach ulcer I belive.
Yup I think thats nailed it! I think Syd was mentally ill however (not Schitzo)but certainly depression. Also drug addiction (Mandrex)and later in life by all accounts a brief stint with alcoholism (10 pints of Guinness).He also had a stomach ulcer I belive.
@Black&GreenAchilles Brillant observations of one of my favorite composers and musicians. You show so much insight to his mind. I never thought he was insane, just totally misunderstood. He saw the world in a completely different way. I watched a rerun of the "The X-Files" last night and Syd's music played heavily into the personality of the kid in it. I heard the music in the background and it was perfect. Bravo and cheers my friend. You wrote this is 2005 so I hope yo get this.
@Black&GreenAchilles Brillant observations of one of my favorite composers and musicians. You show so much insight to his mind. I never thought he was insane, just totally misunderstood. He saw the world in a completely different way. I watched a rerun of the "The X-Files" last night and Syd's music played heavily into the personality of the kid in it. I heard the music in the background and it was perfect. Bravo and cheers my friend. You wrote this is 2005 so I hope yo get this.