Atheist Peace

You write like your too lazy to research the truth so here is a bit of real Hitler history for you SomePunkKid. Hitler had 2 major influences in his life one was Fredrick Nietzsche: a fanatic atheist, and Machiavelli who disdained Christian principles. Hitler was indeed born Catholic but rebuked the church. The 'friendship with the catholic church you mentioned was only to gain support of the catholic and Lutheran portions of Germany. The red in the Nazi flag was there to please the communists and socialists. As for science, the science of Darwinism gave Hitler the scientific justification for...

You write like your too lazy to research the truth so here is a bit of real Hitler history for you SomePunkKid. Hitler had 2 major influences in his life one was Fredrick Nietzsche: a fanatic atheist, and Machiavelli who disdained Christian principles. Hitler was indeed born Catholic but rebuked the church. The 'friendship with the catholic church you mentioned was only to gain support of the catholic and Lutheran portions of Germany. The red in the Nazi flag was there to please the communists and socialists. As for science, the science of Darwinism gave Hitler the scientific justification for his murderous policies. Darwin is being proven wrong with the further knowledge gained in cellular biology. But Greg Graffin is so vested in his atheism he cannot and will not even entertain the notion of something more than his own intellectual arrogance. why don't you look up the word "Indoctrination" Graffin is a genius at propaganda, otherwise unimpressive to someone who researches history, political theories and economies. To me Greg Graffin is a pathetic fool who suffers from his own narcissism and hypocrisy. Im proud of ya pal you at least used a French word. Let's deal with with the crusades, they were fought by Muslims and Christians. Here is the nasty truth it wasn't about religion. it was about spoils. The european Monarchy sent knights under the auspices of the church to gain wealth and they did. I am no fan of religion, and believe it or not the bible isn't either. But ya gotta read it to see it. Why can't science explain the shroud of Turin? It has tried many times and none have been able to reproduce it. Today's science is agenda driven and in a lot of cases for Gov't grants and possibility of a creator is blocked out by the institutions of higher learning. We can go on to the Inquisitions if you like.

Gallium31, it doesn't matter, of course atheists fight, thats what people do, but they don't kill over what they believe, thats the point of the song. you have never had 2 intellectuals go "sir, I adamantly disagree with your theory, despite the massive amounts of evidence supporting it, so I am going to kill you and all the people who agree" that just doesn't work. As for hitler, without religion he would have had a harder time finding a scape goat to kill millions of, and even if he was atheist, he really didn't intern the jews just...

Gallium31, it doesn't matter, of course atheists fight, thats what people do, but they don't kill over what they believe, thats the point of the song. you have never had 2 intellectuals go "sir, I adamantly disagree with your theory, despite the massive amounts of evidence supporting it, so I am going to kill you and all the people who agree" that just doesn't work. As for hitler, without religion he would have had a harder time finding a scape goat to kill millions of, and even if he was atheist, he really didn't intern the jews just because of religion, he needed a scapegoat of people to blame so he could gain powah. and science doesn't have all the answers yet, but we explain a lot more, and eventually we shall either explain or disprove religion once and for all.

gallium31, i don't know if you don't have enough history knowledge or is trying to distort reality, but Hitler was a catholic until the end of his life. And please, read Mein Kampf and the german history arround the 30s, and PLESE, make a really good research about the WWII, instead of saying biased facts about it's connection with darwnism. Oh, and you call Greg an hypocrite, but you're here talking shit about him in his song page that has lyrics that got you offended cause say the truth about your "pretty" belif. Oh, and science is the search for...

gallium31, i don't know if you don't have enough history knowledge or is trying to distort reality, but Hitler was a catholic until the end of his life. And please, read Mein Kampf and the german history arround the 30s, and PLESE, make a really good research about the WWII, instead of saying biased facts about it's connection with darwnism. Oh, and you call Greg an hypocrite, but you're here talking shit about him in his song page that has lyrics that got you offended cause say the truth about your "pretty" belif. Oh, and science is the search for answers, but it doesnt have the answer for everything YET, maybe you don't know what is the scientific method. Go ahead and stay in your dark age with a book that has a magical answer for everything, and support slavery and has more violence than a gore movie.

I'm not sure if you kids are from the states or anything, but gallium does make some good points. I've been a BR fan most of my life now. I can say that I enjoyed listening to their music for a long time. I've come to understand things that even Mr. Graffin does not understand, nor do most atheists or christians. Mainly because I took time to think and grow to understand the universe around me. I look at you and I see a glimmer of truth in Galliums claims. You atheists claim that atheists don't generally quarrel and debate...

I'm not sure if you kids are from the states or anything, but gallium does make some good points. I've been a BR fan most of my life now. I can say that I enjoyed listening to their music for a long time. I've come to understand things that even Mr. Graffin does not understand, nor do most atheists or christians. Mainly because I took time to think and grow to understand the universe around me. I look at you and I see a glimmer of truth in Galliums claims. You atheists claim that atheists don't generally quarrel and debate things in a peaceful and collected manner. I do not see one shred of evidence of that here. You may not use a sword to harm a man, but you are slick with words and will distort every decent thing left on earth with your childish paradigms. A belief never killed 1 fucking human being on this planet. A man with conviction and naivety did so because he was a f** bigot. I looked that word up in the dictionary before thinking it was used to describe people who are intolerant of race. In reality it is the people who harbor intolerance and hatred for people who's ideas and way of life do not mirror your own pointless and miserable ones. Greg is a bigot and all of you here are bigots. I hesitate to call myself a bigot because the only thing I do not tolerate is human ignorance and stupidity which is reflected in almost every human being. I myself am no exception. But at least I have the fucking balls to admit it. Unlike Greg and unlike you I have the balls to say, "Hey, every human being knows jack f* and they will never know anything more" Because when you actually f**** LOOK with your MIND'S EYE (You know that shit where you imagine something and you see it in your head) at how big the f** universe is and how small and petty you retards are. You will come to understand in this that you're NEVER going to figure out where we came from because people like you will always be bickering and whining instead of fixing the f** world around you. And because of your fighting you're gonna fuck yourselves into oblivion. If you are an "Atheist" you should know better then to spit petty words like this. Arguing bush when you're going to die pointlessly and meaninglessly soon due to nuclear war. Unfortunately you are all ignorant bigots and my words are like a librarian's crusade for the illiterate. I bid you all good day and I hope one of you is clever enough to scrounge up a little intelligence in your feeble and mediocre minds to even comprehend what I just wrote, if not question yourselves a little. Intelligence is not based on what you know. It is questioning what you think you know to attain more answer/results/variables. And the variables are endless. This is why I like progressive death metal because the kids aren't as retarded as you and can actually f** respect others. I dare you little sh**s to refute any of this because I've said all I have to say.

I find it infinitely amusing how you ramble about respecting others while calling people every curse in the book, you throw around the word bigot like a child with a word of the day calendar without showing us how we are bigots. I'm an Atheist, I haven't found sufficient evidence to believe in a god, I debate friends and fellow students because I like to have my ideas challenged, as well as seeing if they hold up to scrutiny. You say I'm a bigot because I don't accept religion? You say Gaffin is a bigot because he wrote a song...

I find it infinitely amusing how you ramble about respecting others while calling people every curse in the book, you throw around the word bigot like a child with a word of the day calendar without showing us how we are bigots. I'm an Atheist, I haven't found sufficient evidence to believe in a god, I debate friends and fellow students because I like to have my ideas challenged, as well as seeing if they hold up to scrutiny. You say I'm a bigot because I don't accept religion? You say Gaffin is a bigot because he wrote a song about holy war? (you'll excuse me for going off topic here, but Hitler was in fact a roman catholic, however debating it serves no purpose because World War 2 had very little to do with Hitler's religion) Can you tell us how we are being bigoted? Us Atheist can get flustered, because we're human, and humans have emotions.

now for me to get into a bit of the personal stuff you mentioned you go on about how because we're wasting time arguing on the internet we're all going to die pointless deaths due to nuclear war. I seriously hope you're kidding, for the very thought of anyone being so intellectually void, so vapid as to believe that some punks spending free time on something other than political discourse is going to bring about the end of society as we know it. You say that we'll never learn the answers of the universe, and you may be right, but so fucking what? does that mean we shouldn't try to learn more? we learn more and more about both ourselves and the universe every year. Do you think if you went back in time and told Sir Isaac Newton "hey, we'll never learn everything there is to know about the universe, you may as well stop with your work in physics and mathematics, who gives a shit about how gravity works? or how light exists in a spectrum? you're just going to die a pointless death by disease" that he would give up? spend his days lying around doing nothing because there was no point to experimentation? HELL NO, nobody would care. Scientists don't think about this stuff because they think they'll find out how magic works one day and magically fix all of life's problems.

(in a few words, shut the hell up, you pseudo-intellectual fuck, and yes, I'm pissed, I think it's called for when you have directly insulted me and my peers)

I understand what you're getting at, but you don't understand where I'm coming from. I'm insulting you because you can't seem to look at the goddamn big picture. You and your retarded fucking peers. I am grateful that you decided to take your atheist tard rage down a notch to appear calm and collected in front of rabid foes, but you are just going to show how Ignorant you are of your situation. Me and my peers. Nice group mentality that practices exclusion on the masses. That my friend is how you show bigotry. By excluding others from being like...

I understand what you're getting at, but you don't understand where I'm coming from. I'm insulting you because you can't seem to look at the goddamn big picture. You and your retarded fucking peers. I am grateful that you decided to take your atheist tard rage down a notch to appear calm and collected in front of rabid foes, but you are just going to show how Ignorant you are of your situation. Me and my peers. Nice group mentality that practices exclusion on the masses. That my friend is how you show bigotry. By excluding others from being like you. From having a great distaste for those who do not share your beliefs. To say that I am a bigot would be flawed, because if I did not tolerate you assholes I would have killed myself long ago. But you manage to get by with eyes closed. You know not of how it is to truly be awake. You use every "intelligent" thought you can muster to make other people look stupid instead of working with them as an "Intellectual" to get better answers. You don't have peers, dude. Merely people following the same fabricated idealism that you've been indoctrinated into without any regard or respect to the others that share it. Upon reading what you posted again I've come to the conclusion that you've completely misinterpreted what I was writing anyway. I in no way called myself an intellectual in the first place. I think those who do are fucking full of themselfs, which in turn is full of shit. Most of the time my friend you are not debating. You are not reasoning because you like so many others hold petty convictions that determine what you're going to say in the end. Have a good day little monkey. May your confusion be a beacon of hope for the Issac Newtons everywhere. I think If I told him what you said, he would give up and smoke a bowl with me. Change his career into something more musical and stop trying to find answers because that is the answer. Even your most idolized Mr Graffin stated that any answers just gonna be full of shit.