Thats true that its a George Orwell quote, but George Orwell was an anti-communist, his books 1984 was about what will happen in a futuristic communist society, and Animal Farm was a satire of communist Russia. So George Orwells quote "Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past." is saying that the future is controlled by the past which is controlled by the present, so you have to watch who controls the present becuz they control everything. Rage took this quote and added "Who controls the present now?", which is saying that Orwells quote is true, but that our government isn't one that we want to leave in control of the future either.
Orwell was not an anti-communist, he just doesnt support communism in its extreme form, or in a twisted fascist form with a dictatorship. In 1984 the fascist political party of big brother was INSOC which was English socialism, but that doesnt mean that orwell was agaisnt socialism. He even supported types of socialism, he just recognized that people had to be careful with socialism and not let the government have to much control, regulation, and power which is true for any form of gov. Animal Farm was about communist Russia, but it blamed the terrible situation on fascism disguised as...
Orwell was not an anti-communist, he just doesnt support communism in its extreme form, or in a twisted fascist form with a dictatorship. In 1984 the fascist political party of big brother was INSOC which was English socialism, but that doesnt mean that orwell was agaisnt socialism. He even supported types of socialism, he just recognized that people had to be careful with socialism and not let the government have to much control, regulation, and power which is true for any form of gov. Animal Farm was about communist Russia, but it blamed the terrible situation on fascism disguised as communism. The two pigs represented Stalin and Lenin. The first Pig "Lenin" was a true communist who claimed to rule in the interest but he died and the second pig "Stalin" took over and ruled in the interest of his own fascist objectives. It illustrates that communism failed because of fascists like Stalin not because communism itself is bad. RATM supports left sided gov. and they wouldnt refrence orwell and 1984 on more than one occasion if it was agianst their political beliefs. Dead Prez also made a song about animal farm and they are leftists as well. If orwells novels were anti communist these artists wouldnt reference them in the same way that they do.
There were three pigs actually, The first pig, old major, could be Lenin but resembles marx more closley. and then the two main pigs, which i was referring to before, snowball and napolean definitely represent soviet leaders. snowball who i thought was Lenin also seems to represent trotsky after reading it a second time and studying the history of russia in more depth. and napoleon definitely represents stalin.
There were three pigs actually, The first pig, old major, could be Lenin but resembles marx more closley. and then the two main pigs, which i was referring to before, snowball and napolean definitely represent soviet leaders. snowball who i thought was Lenin also seems to represent trotsky after reading it a second time and studying the history of russia in more depth. and napoleon definitely represents stalin.
@necroticworld Orwell was actually a socialist himself, opposing it when it is wrongly implemented or taken to extreme forms. In truth, socialism is a horrible economic system in ANY form. Orwell was just smart enough to see it was dangerous. but apparently not smart enough to see that it was intrinsically detrimental.
@necroticworld Orwell was actually a socialist himself, opposing it when it is wrongly implemented or taken to extreme forms. In truth, socialism is a horrible economic system in ANY form. Orwell was just smart enough to see it was dangerous. but apparently not smart enough to see that it was intrinsically detrimental.
@necroticworld long time between comments but for the record, Orwell was not anti Communist. He in fact, fought for the Bolsheviks in the Spring Revolution so u couldn't have it more wrong. He was very much pro socialism. He was anti Stalinist which is where the confusion lies. Animal Farm is a pro socialism, anti toltarianism/Stalinist work that makes the claim that Capitalism and socialism are the sane under toltarianism
@necroticworld long time between comments but for the record, Orwell was not anti Communist. He in fact, fought for the Bolsheviks in the Spring Revolution so u couldn't have it more wrong. He was very much pro socialism. He was anti Stalinist which is where the confusion lies. Animal Farm is a pro socialism, anti toltarianism/Stalinist work that makes the claim that Capitalism and socialism are the sane under toltarianism
Thats true that its a George Orwell quote, but George Orwell was an anti-communist, his books 1984 was about what will happen in a futuristic communist society, and Animal Farm was a satire of communist Russia. So George Orwells quote "Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past." is saying that the future is controlled by the past which is controlled by the present, so you have to watch who controls the present becuz they control everything. Rage took this quote and added "Who controls the present now?", which is saying that Orwells quote is true, but that our government isn't one that we want to leave in control of the future either.
Orwell was not an anti-communist, he just doesnt support communism in its extreme form, or in a twisted fascist form with a dictatorship. In 1984 the fascist political party of big brother was INSOC which was English socialism, but that doesnt mean that orwell was agaisnt socialism. He even supported types of socialism, he just recognized that people had to be careful with socialism and not let the government have to much control, regulation, and power which is true for any form of gov. Animal Farm was about communist Russia, but it blamed the terrible situation on fascism disguised as...
Orwell was not an anti-communist, he just doesnt support communism in its extreme form, or in a twisted fascist form with a dictatorship. In 1984 the fascist political party of big brother was INSOC which was English socialism, but that doesnt mean that orwell was agaisnt socialism. He even supported types of socialism, he just recognized that people had to be careful with socialism and not let the government have to much control, regulation, and power which is true for any form of gov. Animal Farm was about communist Russia, but it blamed the terrible situation on fascism disguised as communism. The two pigs represented Stalin and Lenin. The first Pig "Lenin" was a true communist who claimed to rule in the interest but he died and the second pig "Stalin" took over and ruled in the interest of his own fascist objectives. It illustrates that communism failed because of fascists like Stalin not because communism itself is bad. RATM supports left sided gov. and they wouldnt refrence orwell and 1984 on more than one occasion if it was agianst their political beliefs. Dead Prez also made a song about animal farm and they are leftists as well. If orwells novels were anti communist these artists wouldnt reference them in the same way that they do.
There were three pigs actually, The first pig, old major, could be Lenin but resembles marx more closley. and then the two main pigs, which i was referring to before, snowball and napolean definitely represent soviet leaders. snowball who i thought was Lenin also seems to represent trotsky after reading it a second time and studying the history of russia in more depth. and napoleon definitely represents stalin.
There were three pigs actually, The first pig, old major, could be Lenin but resembles marx more closley. and then the two main pigs, which i was referring to before, snowball and napolean definitely represent soviet leaders. snowball who i thought was Lenin also seems to represent trotsky after reading it a second time and studying the history of russia in more depth. and napoleon definitely represents stalin.
@necroticworld Orwell was actually a socialist himself, opposing it when it is wrongly implemented or taken to extreme forms. In truth, socialism is a horrible economic system in ANY form. Orwell was just smart enough to see it was dangerous. but apparently not smart enough to see that it was intrinsically detrimental.
@necroticworld Orwell was actually a socialist himself, opposing it when it is wrongly implemented or taken to extreme forms. In truth, socialism is a horrible economic system in ANY form. Orwell was just smart enough to see it was dangerous. but apparently not smart enough to see that it was intrinsically detrimental.
@necroticworld long time between comments but for the record, Orwell was not anti Communist. He in fact, fought for the Bolsheviks in the Spring Revolution so u couldn't have it more wrong. He was very much pro socialism. He was anti Stalinist which is where the confusion lies. Animal Farm is a pro socialism, anti toltarianism/Stalinist work that makes the claim that Capitalism and socialism are the sane under toltarianism
@necroticworld long time between comments but for the record, Orwell was not anti Communist. He in fact, fought for the Bolsheviks in the Spring Revolution so u couldn't have it more wrong. He was very much pro socialism. He was anti Stalinist which is where the confusion lies. Animal Farm is a pro socialism, anti toltarianism/Stalinist work that makes the claim that Capitalism and socialism are the sane under toltarianism