When he says "Now I saw a face on the water. It looked humble but willing to fight. I saw the will of a warrior. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. He looked me right in the eyes, Direct and concise to remind me
To always do what's right", he is clearly talking about Jesus Christ. In fact "his yoke is easy, and his burden is light" is a direct quote from the bible talking about Christ. The faceless man is Christ. Scott Stapp is saying he knows there is someone there, but he doesn't know him well enough to see his face. But he goes on to say "Next time I see this face, I'll say I choose to live for always. So won't you come inside And never go away". This means maybe if God really reveals himself to Scott again (like he's saying 'God, just give me ONE more sign, THEN I'll believe'), then he'll invite Christ into his heart and ask Him to never go away.
But also, when it says "...if the face inside can't see the light I know I'll have to walk alone And if I walk alone to the other side I know I might not make it home". He is saying that if the light of Christ can't be seen in him by God, he'll have to walk alone. And if he dies without the light inside (christ), he might not make it home (to heaven). The fact is though, there's no 'might' or maybe about it. Either there was and is a Jesus Christ, son of God, who was and is the only way to heaven, or there isn't. Decide soon Scott...
I agree with all of your points except for one--The Faceless Man is not Christ. The Faceless Man is death. If you Google "faceless man archetype," this is the definition. He is standing with Christ against the Faceless Man.
I agree with all of your points except for one--The Faceless Man is not Christ. The Faceless Man is death. If you Google "faceless man archetype," this is the definition. He is standing with Christ against the Faceless Man.
@chosen1forlife
I seriously think that youve hit the nail on the head and agree 100% to what you are saying. I dont agree that the faceless man is death however.
"It was humble, and willing to fight" Refers to Jesus going through the hardship before he got crucified. People all accused him of things when he was just helping the people. He was humble about his deeds, but willing to fight against the people that didn't believe who he was and was fighting for the good side.
"He looked me right in the eyes direct and concise to remind me, to always do...
@chosen1forlife
I seriously think that youve hit the nail on the head and agree 100% to what you are saying. I dont agree that the faceless man is death however.
"It was humble, and willing to fight" Refers to Jesus going through the hardship before he got crucified. People all accused him of things when he was just helping the people. He was humble about his deeds, but willing to fight against the people that didn't believe who he was and was fighting for the good side.
"He looked me right in the eyes direct and concise to remind me, to always do what's right" means exactly that, whenever we sin and go to repent then we are reminded of what we have done wrong, and ask for forgiveness... Dont think that death would look you right in the eyes and do whats right?
Get back to me on this one, appreciated
I agree with your theology but must disagree with your interpretation. The face in the water and the faceless man are two separate enties (by definition in fact... how can a face be faceless) Yes, the face in the water certainly refers to Jesus but the faceless man most reasonably refers to death. Very powerful song indeed. I suppose you could argue that the faceless man represents the Flesh or Satan but that is a bit counter-intuitive. Either way, this is a song of triumph rather than one of defeat as you suggest. I don't think you need...
I agree with your theology but must disagree with your interpretation. The face in the water and the faceless man are two separate enties (by definition in fact... how can a face be faceless) Yes, the face in the water certainly refers to Jesus but the faceless man most reasonably refers to death. Very powerful song indeed. I suppose you could argue that the faceless man represents the Flesh or Satan but that is a bit counter-intuitive. Either way, this is a song of triumph rather than one of defeat as you suggest. I don't think you need be worried about Scott sitting on the fence waiting for Christ to interact with him one more time. He has made the decision to stand with the "face in the water" against "the faceless man".
@counting91bluecars
Right on. This interpretation makes the most reasonable sense. For centuries at least, the faceless man has been a personification of death... see Grim Reaper / Third Spirit in A Christmas Carol / Ringwraiths etc.
@songmeaner09
"Humble and willing to fight" refers to the face in the water (Jesus) absolutely but this is not the faceless man. Why would anyone (Christian or not) say "Lord I stand against Jesus"? chosen1forlife means well but don't encourage him haha
This interpretation is obvious to me but seems to be in the minority on these threads. I would be concerned if not for the fact that there are also way too many posters who want to remove Jesus from the interpretation altogether... which is an embrace of pure ignorance.
Scott: "Next time I see this face--"
Chosen1forlife: "--Oh you mean the faceless face that you saw but can't see?"
Scott: "Um... no?... Wait what?"
there's possibility that the lyric isnt directly talking about one person (faceless man), and the 'you's in this song is not the same man (faceless man). the "you"s might work with capital Y, which is God.
there's possibility that the lyric isnt directly talking about one person (faceless man), and the 'you's in this song is not the same man (faceless man). the "you"s might work with capital Y, which is God.
My point is, more likely, scott talking about this faceless man (whom he's against of) AND another persona (indirectly written: God-- who granted him life and so on).
My point is, more likely, scott talking about this faceless man (whom he's against of) AND another persona (indirectly written: God-- who granted him life and so on).
sorry for my bad grammar, i hope you guys get the point.
sorry for my bad grammar, i hope you guys get the point.
@chosen1forlife I think you are close. But I think there are two faces. When he keeps saying Lord, I stand against the faceless man. That couldn't be Christ or he'd be saying I'm standing against you, for you. Right? But later he says he saw a face on the water and everything you said there I agree with. That was Christ. But even once he sees christ he is STILL standing against the faceless man. When I see that face again, he's talking about Jesus, yes. The face he saw on the water.
@chosen1forlife I think you are close. But I think there are two faces. When he keeps saying Lord, I stand against the faceless man. That couldn't be Christ or he'd be saying I'm standing against you, for you. Right? But later he says he saw a face on the water and everything you said there I agree with. That was Christ. But even once he sees christ he is STILL standing against the faceless man. When I see that face again, he's talking about Jesus, yes. The face he saw on the water.
So standing AGAINST this faceless man....
So standing AGAINST this faceless man. That's where I'm stuck. Lots of folks say it's death. It could be. I mean we're told as Christians do not hyper focus on that and to live each day and each moment.
It could be Satan or the antichrist even maybe but that seems too on the nose.
@chosen1forlife I can’t help to think and feel that the part missing here is that Jesus explained we all are sons of God, we all have God inside, and we all came here to do big things like Jesus did, so we just gotta look inward and find the light. We all have a human side and a spirit or soul or God side, so to me when I hear the song I can’t help to hear it as the human side of me (hence the title of the album “Human Clay”) can’t see the light of the faceless man,...
@chosen1forlife I can’t help to think and feel that the part missing here is that Jesus explained we all are sons of God, we all have God inside, and we all came here to do big things like Jesus did, so we just gotta look inward and find the light. We all have a human side and a spirit or soul or God side, so to me when I hear the song I can’t help to hear it as the human side of me (hence the title of the album “Human Clay”) can’t see the light of the faceless man, aka, the soul or God side in us, then I’ll have to walk alone and I might not make it to the other side back home, back home to Source, to God. So next time I see the faceless man, my God side, Jesus reflected in my mirror in the water in my own reflection, the one that keeps reminding me to always do good, then I’ll tell Him I choose to live for always…we chose to come to this earth for some reason, and that means these bodies will eventually die, so choosing to love for always means we are choosing to stay with the spirit side of us, with God, with him, with Jesus, the faceless man inside of us. At least that’s what breaks me into tears when I listen to this song.
@chosen1forlife I don't think he's questioning God or Jesus here.
@chosen1forlife I don't think he's questioning God or Jesus here.
I think it's about a guy struggling with his inner demons, the "Faceless man."
I think it's about a guy struggling with his inner demons, the "Faceless man."
"I spent a day by the river. It was quiet, and the wind stood still. I spent some time with nature. To remind me of all that's real."
"I spent a day by the river. It was quiet, and the wind stood still. I spent some time with nature. To remind me of all that's real."
He's in a peaceful and relaxing situation, somewhere outside, away from all the stress and distractions of everyday life. As he's sitting there, he's able to think about things.
He's in a peaceful and relaxing situation, somewhere outside, away from all the stress and distractions of everyday life. As he's sitting there, he's able to think about things.
"It's funny how silence speaks sometimes when you're alone, and remember that you feel."...
"It's funny how silence speaks sometimes when you're alone, and remember that you feel."
Basically, he's recognizing that the peace and quiet he's experiencing allowed him to think a little more clearly. The silence speaking to him is just his inner thoughts or his conscience.
"Again I stand, Lord I stand, against the faceless man."
While he's thinking about things he's inevitably faced with his inner demons. Regrets, things he feels guilty about. This is the "Faceless Man."
"Now I saw a face on the water. It looked humble but willing to fight. It looked humble, but willing to fight. I saw the will of a warrior."
He's thinking about these regrets and dealing with the thoughts that come with them. He said he's sitting in nature, obviously by a lake or something. He sees his reflection in the water, and in doing so, notices he still has some of the old desire in him to try and change. Seeing a "warrior" is simply knowing he does have the ability to face his inner demons.
"His yoke is easy and his burden is light."
This is a Bible verse in Matthew when Jesus says "my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
This phrase, when interpreted in the context of biblical teachings, signifies that following Jesus, living a life devoted to God, and obeying his will is not a difficult or oppressive undertaking, but rather a joyful and fulfilling way of life. I think he puts this in the song here, and it shows through the rest of the song as he keeps saying, "Lord", that he's asking for God's help here to face his inner demons, The faceless man.
He wants the fulfilling life promised to us in the Bible, but he can't have that unless he can change. I think this is confirmed in the next few lyrics when he says "he looked me right in the eyes, direct and concise, to remind me to always do what's right." He then repeatedly asks for God's help...
"Cause if the face inside can't see the light I know I'll have to walk alone"
The face inside is the faceless man, his inner demons. He's taking responsibility for his actions here. He's acknowledging that he is the face inside. He's responsible for his inner demons. If the face inside can't see the light, he won't have the peace he's looking for. Saying he'll have to walk alone is literally acknowledging he won't get to heaven through his current path. He won't be walking with Jesus.
"And if I walk alone to the other side I know I might not make it home."
Home is heaven. If I walk alone I won't get to heaven.
"Next time I see his face I'll say I choose to live for always. So won't you come inside and never go away."
He asking for God's help again, inviting him to "come inside and never go away. "
When he says "Now I saw a face on the water. It looked humble but willing to fight. I saw the will of a warrior. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. He looked me right in the eyes, Direct and concise to remind me To always do what's right", he is clearly talking about Jesus Christ. In fact "his yoke is easy, and his burden is light" is a direct quote from the bible talking about Christ. The faceless man is Christ. Scott Stapp is saying he knows there is someone there, but he doesn't know him well enough to see his face. But he goes on to say "Next time I see this face, I'll say I choose to live for always. So won't you come inside And never go away". This means maybe if God really reveals himself to Scott again (like he's saying 'God, just give me ONE more sign, THEN I'll believe'), then he'll invite Christ into his heart and ask Him to never go away. But also, when it says "...if the face inside can't see the light I know I'll have to walk alone And if I walk alone to the other side I know I might not make it home". He is saying that if the light of Christ can't be seen in him by God, he'll have to walk alone. And if he dies without the light inside (christ), he might not make it home (to heaven). The fact is though, there's no 'might' or maybe about it. Either there was and is a Jesus Christ, son of God, who was and is the only way to heaven, or there isn't. Decide soon Scott...
I agree with all of your points except for one--The Faceless Man is not Christ. The Faceless Man is death. If you Google "faceless man archetype," this is the definition. He is standing with Christ against the Faceless Man.
I agree with all of your points except for one--The Faceless Man is not Christ. The Faceless Man is death. If you Google "faceless man archetype," this is the definition. He is standing with Christ against the Faceless Man.
@chosen1forlife I seriously think that youve hit the nail on the head and agree 100% to what you are saying. I dont agree that the faceless man is death however. "It was humble, and willing to fight" Refers to Jesus going through the hardship before he got crucified. People all accused him of things when he was just helping the people. He was humble about his deeds, but willing to fight against the people that didn't believe who he was and was fighting for the good side. "He looked me right in the eyes direct and concise to remind me, to always do...
@chosen1forlife I seriously think that youve hit the nail on the head and agree 100% to what you are saying. I dont agree that the faceless man is death however. "It was humble, and willing to fight" Refers to Jesus going through the hardship before he got crucified. People all accused him of things when he was just helping the people. He was humble about his deeds, but willing to fight against the people that didn't believe who he was and was fighting for the good side. "He looked me right in the eyes direct and concise to remind me, to always do what's right" means exactly that, whenever we sin and go to repent then we are reminded of what we have done wrong, and ask for forgiveness... Dont think that death would look you right in the eyes and do whats right? Get back to me on this one, appreciated
@chosen1forlife
@chosen1forlife
I agree with your theology but must disagree with your interpretation. The face in the water and the faceless man are two separate enties (by definition in fact... how can a face be faceless) Yes, the face in the water certainly refers to Jesus but the faceless man most reasonably refers to death. Very powerful song indeed. I suppose you could argue that the faceless man represents the Flesh or Satan but that is a bit counter-intuitive. Either way, this is a song of triumph rather than one of defeat as you suggest. I don't think you need...
I agree with your theology but must disagree with your interpretation. The face in the water and the faceless man are two separate enties (by definition in fact... how can a face be faceless) Yes, the face in the water certainly refers to Jesus but the faceless man most reasonably refers to death. Very powerful song indeed. I suppose you could argue that the faceless man represents the Flesh or Satan but that is a bit counter-intuitive. Either way, this is a song of triumph rather than one of defeat as you suggest. I don't think you need be worried about Scott sitting on the fence waiting for Christ to interact with him one more time. He has made the decision to stand with the "face in the water" against "the faceless man".
@counting91bluecars
Right on. This interpretation makes the most reasonable sense. For centuries at least, the faceless man has been a personification of death... see Grim Reaper / Third Spirit in A Christmas Carol / Ringwraiths etc.
@songmeaner09
"Humble and willing to fight" refers to the face in the water (Jesus) absolutely but this is not the faceless man. Why would anyone (Christian or not) say "Lord I stand against Jesus"? chosen1forlife means well but don't encourage him haha
This interpretation is obvious to me but seems to be in the minority on these threads. I would be concerned if not for the fact that there are also way too many posters who want to remove Jesus from the interpretation altogether... which is an embrace of pure ignorance.
Scott: "Next time I see this face--" Chosen1forlife: "--Oh you mean the faceless face that you saw but can't see?" Scott: "Um... no?... Wait what?"
there's possibility that the lyric isnt directly talking about one person (faceless man), and the 'you's in this song is not the same man (faceless man). the "you"s might work with capital Y, which is God.
there's possibility that the lyric isnt directly talking about one person (faceless man), and the 'you's in this song is not the same man (faceless man). the "you"s might work with capital Y, which is God.
My point is, more likely, scott talking about this faceless man (whom he's against of) AND another persona (indirectly written: God-- who granted him life and so on).
My point is, more likely, scott talking about this faceless man (whom he's against of) AND another persona (indirectly written: God-- who granted him life and so on).
sorry for my bad grammar, i hope you guys get the point.
sorry for my bad grammar, i hope you guys get the point.
@chosen1forlife I think you are close. But I think there are two faces. When he keeps saying Lord, I stand against the faceless man. That couldn't be Christ or he'd be saying I'm standing against you, for you. Right? But later he says he saw a face on the water and everything you said there I agree with. That was Christ. But even once he sees christ he is STILL standing against the faceless man. When I see that face again, he's talking about Jesus, yes. The face he saw on the water.
@chosen1forlife I think you are close. But I think there are two faces. When he keeps saying Lord, I stand against the faceless man. That couldn't be Christ or he'd be saying I'm standing against you, for you. Right? But later he says he saw a face on the water and everything you said there I agree with. That was Christ. But even once he sees christ he is STILL standing against the faceless man. When I see that face again, he's talking about Jesus, yes. The face he saw on the water.
So standing AGAINST this faceless man....
So standing AGAINST this faceless man. That's where I'm stuck. Lots of folks say it's death. It could be. I mean we're told as Christians do not hyper focus on that and to live each day and each moment.
It could be Satan or the antichrist even maybe but that seems too on the nose.
@chosen1forlife I can’t help to think and feel that the part missing here is that Jesus explained we all are sons of God, we all have God inside, and we all came here to do big things like Jesus did, so we just gotta look inward and find the light. We all have a human side and a spirit or soul or God side, so to me when I hear the song I can’t help to hear it as the human side of me (hence the title of the album “Human Clay”) can’t see the light of the faceless man,...
@chosen1forlife I can’t help to think and feel that the part missing here is that Jesus explained we all are sons of God, we all have God inside, and we all came here to do big things like Jesus did, so we just gotta look inward and find the light. We all have a human side and a spirit or soul or God side, so to me when I hear the song I can’t help to hear it as the human side of me (hence the title of the album “Human Clay”) can’t see the light of the faceless man, aka, the soul or God side in us, then I’ll have to walk alone and I might not make it to the other side back home, back home to Source, to God. So next time I see the faceless man, my God side, Jesus reflected in my mirror in the water in my own reflection, the one that keeps reminding me to always do good, then I’ll tell Him I choose to live for always…we chose to come to this earth for some reason, and that means these bodies will eventually die, so choosing to love for always means we are choosing to stay with the spirit side of us, with God, with him, with Jesus, the faceless man inside of us. At least that’s what breaks me into tears when I listen to this song.
@chosen1forlife I don't think he's questioning God or Jesus here.
@chosen1forlife I don't think he's questioning God or Jesus here.
I think it's about a guy struggling with his inner demons, the "Faceless man."
I think it's about a guy struggling with his inner demons, the "Faceless man."
"I spent a day by the river. It was quiet, and the wind stood still. I spent some time with nature. To remind me of all that's real."
"I spent a day by the river. It was quiet, and the wind stood still. I spent some time with nature. To remind me of all that's real."
He's in a peaceful and relaxing situation, somewhere outside, away from all the stress and distractions of everyday life. As he's sitting there, he's able to think about things.
He's in a peaceful and relaxing situation, somewhere outside, away from all the stress and distractions of everyday life. As he's sitting there, he's able to think about things.
"It's funny how silence speaks sometimes when you're alone, and remember that you feel."...
"It's funny how silence speaks sometimes when you're alone, and remember that you feel."
Basically, he's recognizing that the peace and quiet he's experiencing allowed him to think a little more clearly. The silence speaking to him is just his inner thoughts or his conscience.
"Again I stand, Lord I stand, against the faceless man."
While he's thinking about things he's inevitably faced with his inner demons. Regrets, things he feels guilty about. This is the "Faceless Man."
"Now I saw a face on the water. It looked humble but willing to fight. It looked humble, but willing to fight. I saw the will of a warrior."
He's thinking about these regrets and dealing with the thoughts that come with them. He said he's sitting in nature, obviously by a lake or something. He sees his reflection in the water, and in doing so, notices he still has some of the old desire in him to try and change. Seeing a "warrior" is simply knowing he does have the ability to face his inner demons.
"His yoke is easy and his burden is light."
This is a Bible verse in Matthew when Jesus says "my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
This phrase, when interpreted in the context of biblical teachings, signifies that following Jesus, living a life devoted to God, and obeying his will is not a difficult or oppressive undertaking, but rather a joyful and fulfilling way of life. I think he puts this in the song here, and it shows through the rest of the song as he keeps saying, "Lord", that he's asking for God's help here to face his inner demons, The faceless man.
He wants the fulfilling life promised to us in the Bible, but he can't have that unless he can change. I think this is confirmed in the next few lyrics when he says "he looked me right in the eyes, direct and concise, to remind me to always do what's right." He then repeatedly asks for God's help...
"Cause if the face inside can't see the light I know I'll have to walk alone"
The face inside is the faceless man, his inner demons. He's taking responsibility for his actions here. He's acknowledging that he is the face inside. He's responsible for his inner demons. If the face inside can't see the light, he won't have the peace he's looking for. Saying he'll have to walk alone is literally acknowledging he won't get to heaven through his current path. He won't be walking with Jesus.
"And if I walk alone to the other side I know I might not make it home."
Home is heaven. If I walk alone I won't get to heaven.
"Next time I see his face I'll say I choose to live for always. So won't you come inside and never go away."
He asking for God's help again, inviting him to "come inside and never go away. "
He wants to win the fight for good. For always.
Unbelievable song.