Deep Silent Complete

death is what i can gather from the lyrics. but not fear of it, welcoming. or maybe not death, but some lyrics seem to point towards that. i recall Fight Club "Dark, Silent and Complete" and come back to this.

the sound of the song is not dim or gloomy for me, but accepting.

Tuomas said that he wrote this as a tribute to the "power of the mighty Oceans"

Indeed I think about wickedest comment.. and I come with the same conclusion: As one with death.. in total serenity.. Deep silence.. to enjoy the most beautiful moment in life. The moment we exit.

beautiful. by the way: it's "The age will say "This night was ours""

The sirens are calling for me Saved my soul thinking "This song's a lie" Sand on the shore is so dry

This is about longin for something dangerous - the sea, where the writer feels that he belongs - with the sirens, which song calls for him. but he refuses the song, and the sea, despite the fact that he belongs there - and that is because the siren's song are dangerous.

it is like with love, it can hurt us, it is dangerous, but we longs for it still.

This song is definetly about acceptance of death... I will go a step farther and say contemplation of suicide. I find it interesting to see the progression of Toumas' thoughts and mindset throughout the Nightwish albums...it is so obvious that this song leads straight into Century Child's Ocean Soul song (actually that whole album) which was all about frustration with life and desire to have it over with or find something to make it worthwhile. He says "I saved my soul..by thinking this song is a lie" in other words, I didn't commit suicide by convincing myself it really wouldn't be as great as I imagine.

binni's right, Tuomas mentioned that the ocean was in his mind when he wrote this.

Also, on a couple of occasions, Tuomas has mentioned that the phrase "ocean soul" is how he feels about himself.

Wow! What a beautiful song! Although I must confess that I understand nothing about it, Tarja voice is surely so nice, both sweet and deep and touching. (Maybe the singers in the bands Evanescence and Lacuna Coil ought to train much more to keep pace with her). Also, the melody indeed leads me into the night. And I wonder what was really in Toumas' mind when he wrote "The age will say this poet lies" and "Blessed with the deep the silent the complete" ?And I don't like to think that he refered it to death. It must be about something esle, like a lost soul or a deep dream or so...Is there anyone who could come to a different conclusion?

Oddly enough, I like the parts when she's not singing, but harmonising (not sure if that's the right term for it, but it's the parts between each verse). Anyway, that has nothing to do with meaning so ...

I agree, I believe the song is indeed about death, accepting death, welcoming it even.

'Deep Silent Complete, Black Velvet sea, The sirens are calling for me.' Pretty basic, really: Black Velvet sea = death, a total sea of nothingness; the sirens - calling her to her death.

Oh, and this line really sticks with me for some reason:

'The age will say 'This poet lies, Heaven never touched earthly face'

I think it's a reference to some poet or other who claimed Heaven was on earth (couldn't tell you which one, or if that's even true), and this song is basically disagreeing. Perhaps a link to the earlier line (the Black Velvet sea bit), in that there is nothing after death.

Meh, I'm just speculating. I'm probably wrong ;)

If you were to translate the song into sensible meanings of words, you would most likely get something similar to this...

-In your creation heaven did decree- "When you were born, fate did determine." [Suggesting predestination?] -That in your arms sweet death should dwell- "That your embraced death should inhabit (a)" [In relation to the first line, a feeling of being bound to die] -Deep Silent Complete- "Vast lonely ending." [Empty and a lonely death] -Black Velvet Sea- "Dark dismal sea." [Purgatory? Nothingness?] -The sirens are calling for me- "A danger is approaching me." [Now is my time of dying?] -Saved my soul thinking "This song's a lie"- "Saved myself, refusing to believe this song." [Finding hope of afterlife? May be tied to religious beliefs.] -Sand on the shore is so dry- "People in the world have withered away." [Description of humanity that is corrupt or sullen.] -Brave day sinking in endless night- "Courageous life ending into an abyss" [reiteration of hopeless against fate] -The age will say "This poet lies"- "The century would say this poet deceives" [Ignorance of truth. Deceiving them from their "truth"] -Heaven never touched earthly face- "Heaven never contacted our home" [In both a physical and religious sense, Heaven is not for us/earth] -The age say "This night was ours"- "This century now says this abyss is ours" [Perhaps the new age is understanding of their fate, and embraces it] -Blessed with the deep, the silent, the complete- "Gifted with this profound, undisturbed, and (made) whole (fate)" [The belief that this ending is a gift to us, as we finally rest]

I do think this song is about the absence of an afterlife, and the thought of ending causes pain and grief so people try to refuse it, but in the end it is a gift that we should embrace as it makes us complete and whole, as we finally rest.