This is a hauntingly beautiful song about introspection, specifically about looking back at a relationship that started bad and ended so poorly, that the narrator wants to go back to the very beginning and tell himself to not even travel down that road. I believe that the relationship started poorly because of the lines:
"Take me back to the night we met:When the night was full of terrors: And your eyes were filled with tears: When you had not touched me yet"
So, the first night was not a great start, but the narrator pursued the relationship and eventually both overcame the rough start to fall in love with each other:
"I had all and then most of you"
Like many relationships that turn sour, it was not a quick decline, but a gradual one where the narrator and their partner fall out of love and gradually grow apart
"Some and now none of you"
Losing someone who was once everything in your world, who you could confide in, tell your secrets to, share all the most intimate parts of your life, to being strangers with that person is probably one of the most painful experiences a person can go through. So Painful, the narrator wants to go back in time and tell himself to not even pursue the relationship.
This was the perfect song for "13 Reasons Why"
You're the one that they used to hate
But they like you now
And everything that goes away
Will be returned somehow
They're the ones that spit on you
'Cause they got no heart
I'm the one that will follow you
You're my Joan of Arc
Joan of Arc
You had a vision they couldn't see so
They put you down
But everything that you said would happen
It came around
And they're the ones that put you down
'Cause they got no heart
But I'm the one that will follow you
You're my Joan of Arc
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys their time is through
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
I'll follow you
Now they tell you that you're their muse
Yeah, they're so inspired
But where were they when they called your name
And they lit the fire?
When the voices came, you cut your hair
But you're still confused
But I'm the one with a heavy heart
'Cause I'll follow you
My Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys their time is through
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
When the boys are over you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
I'll follow you
(I really wanna know you)
Tu dis que tu est mon juge
Mais je ne te crois pas
Alors tu dis que je suis une sainte
Mais ce n'est pas moi
J'entends des voix
Mais ce n'est pas moi
Je ne suis pas Jeanne d'Arc
And if you shoot, you better hit your mark (Hit your mark)
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys their time is through
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
When the boys are over you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
I'll follow you
Joan, it's true
I only wanna to know you
Joan, it's true
it's true, I only wanna to know you
But Joan
I only wanna to know you
(First they love you)
(Then they kill you)
(Then they love you again)
(And then they love you)
(Then they kill you)
(Then they love you again)
(Love love you)
(Kill kill you)
And then they love you again
They love love you
Kill kill you
And then they love you again
But they like you now
And everything that goes away
Will be returned somehow
They're the ones that spit on you
'Cause they got no heart
I'm the one that will follow you
You're my Joan of Arc
Joan of Arc
You had a vision they couldn't see so
They put you down
But everything that you said would happen
It came around
And they're the ones that put you down
'Cause they got no heart
But I'm the one that will follow you
You're my Joan of Arc
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys their time is through
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
I'll follow you
Now they tell you that you're their muse
Yeah, they're so inspired
But where were they when they called your name
And they lit the fire?
When the voices came, you cut your hair
But you're still confused
But I'm the one with a heavy heart
'Cause I'll follow you
My Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys their time is through
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
When the boys are over you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
I'll follow you
(I really wanna know you)
Tu dis que tu est mon juge
Mais je ne te crois pas
Alors tu dis que je suis une sainte
Mais ce n'est pas moi
J'entends des voix
Mais ce n'est pas moi
Je ne suis pas Jeanne d'Arc
And if you shoot, you better hit your mark (Hit your mark)
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys their time is through
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
When the boys are over you
Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
Tell the boys I'll follow you
I'll follow you
Joan, it's true
I only wanna to know you
Joan, it's true
it's true, I only wanna to know you
But Joan
I only wanna to know you
(First they love you)
(Then they kill you)
(Then they love you again)
(And then they love you)
(Then they kill you)
(Then they love you again)
(Love love you)
(Kill kill you)
And then they love you again
They love love you
Kill kill you
And then they love you again
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Joan of Arc Lyrics as written by Regine Chassagne Jeremy Gara
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According to Goolge Translate, the translation of the french part of the song is:
You say that you are my judge But I do not believe you So you're saying I'm a saint But it is not me I hear voices But it is not me I'm not Joan of Arc
Those translations tend to be very literal, but I think the sense of what the female part sings in this song is important to its meaning.
I picture the main singer of the song as picturing a bullied, screwed up girl as his "Joan of Arc" and someone he can follow. He always felt alone and so he pursues a relationship with her.
However, as with most of the things he perceives, it is only a reflection of his own desires. He is looking for a leader because he is lost, but she is no more a leader than he is.
Instead of seeing a screwed up young woman with her own problems, he idolizes and judges her to be his reason for existence. When he makes his feelings known, she professes that she is not what he thinks she is and if he is going to judge he better "hit his mark".
Maybe the translation is skewing my interpretation but I think it is a unique take on a common modern love story. It reminds me of a line from the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind:
Clementine: Too many guys think I'm a concept, or I complete them, or I'm gonna make them alive. But I'm just a fucked-up girl who's lookin' for my own peace of mind; don't assign me yours.
I think this is a good interpretation. I see this song as being about the "original" manic pixie dream girl that history has made Joan of Arc out to be.
yeah i think it is about him putting her on a pedestal...and her thinking hes over reacting...
This is exactly the story of Joan of Arc. Its a famous story of a french profet who was burned at the stake for being a "heretic" in those days.
Anyone feel like this song may have been intended for use in The Hunger Games: Catching Fire? Similar to how Arcade Fire both recorded Abraham's Daughter and composed the Panem anthem for the first film.
I don't know-- it seems just a /little/ disconnected with the rest of the album's themes, but it fits the film surprisingly well.
I love this song. Best one off the new album (so far, anyway- I'm halfway through).
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Probably my fav from the new album too. Nothing to add and I'm inclined to agree with your interpretations
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